Re: venv --upgrade 3.12.0rc2 --> 3.12.0rc3 failure

2023-09-28 Thread Robin Becker via Python-list
. .. I have a different version, but it's not 'in place'. thanks -- Robin On 27 Sep 2023, at 12:50, Robin Becker via Python-list wrote: Attempting venv upgrade 3.12.0rc2 --> 3.12.0rc3 I find pyvenv.cfg changes, but the virtual python doesn't. I guess this ought to be a bug. You m

venv --upgrade 3.12.0rc2 --> 3.12.0rc3 failure

2023-09-27 Thread Robin Becker via Python-list
s.version)' 3.12.0rc3 (main, Sep 27 2023, 09:35:10) [GCC 13.2.1 20230801] user@host:~/devel $ -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.12.0 beta 1 released.

2023-05-25 Thread Robin Becker
On 25/05/2023 12:23, Robin Becker wrote: On 22/05/2023 22:04, Thomas Wouters wrote: > I'm pleased to announce the release of Python 3.12 beta 1 (and feature > freeze for Python 3.12). > ... I see a major difference between 3.12.0a7 and 3.12.0b1 Basically in preppy an importer i

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.12.0 beta 1 released.

2023-05-25 Thread Robin Becker
On 22/05/2023 22:04, Thomas Wouters wrote: > I'm pleased to announce the release of Python 3.12 beta 1 (and feature > freeze for Python 3.12). > ... I see a major difference between 3.12.0a7 and 3.12.0b1 Basically in preppy an importer is defined to handle imports of '.prep' files. This

Re: Python 3.12.0 alpha 6 released

2023-03-09 Thread Robin Becker
ers Ned Deily Steve Dower -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: lxml with python-3.12.0a5

2023-02-24 Thread Robin Becker
into python-3.12.0a5 I used latest lxml source and python setup.py bdist_wheel --with-cython which built without error. The installed lxml seems fine (at least for reportlab tests). -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

lxml with python-3.12.0a5

2023-02-23 Thread Robin Becker
und. Anyone know how to get around this problem. I did try rebuilding the cpython stuff using make, but that also failed. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: C extension custom types in abi3 module

2022-12-08 Thread Robin Becker
On 08/12/2022 12:52, Robin Becker wrote: I am trying to split off reportlab C extensions to simplify installations and make use of more advanced packages. A simple extension is easily converted to being an abi3 module. However, another has a custom type which uses the old style mechanisms

C extension custom types in abi3 module

2022-12-08 Thread Robin Becker
like I have to use a different mechanism to setup custom types in the abi3 world. I looked in Modules/xxlimited_35.c, but that seems much more complex and provides for a type which supports GC. Are there any ABI3 examples using the old style strategy? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org

Re: is mypy failing here

2022-11-25 Thread Robin Becker
lso finds the real typing error. So it seems the tool fails in the simplest cases if you forget some typing. Interesting that it works in windows without --strict though. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is mypy failing here

2022-11-25 Thread Robin Becker
d I still don't get an error. I'll break out the windows 10 laptop and see what happens there. You ran with the py runner. I wonder if that does something special. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

is mypy failing here

2022-11-24 Thread Robin Becker
:~/devel/reportlab DC.a is supposed to be a str and I expected mypy to indicate a type error should typing work for this case? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Reportlab / platypus bug?

2022-03-15 Thread Robin Becker
On 15/03/2022 13:20, Les wrote: Robin Becker ezt írta (időpont: 2022. márc. 15., K, 14:06): Hi Les, so far as I know the reportlab-users list is still running it is hosted (nad has been for many years) at https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/reportlab-users is that the address you

Re: Reportlab / platypus bug?

2022-03-15 Thread Robin Becker
.. Hi Les, so far as I know the reportlab-users list is still running it is hosted (nad has been for many years) at https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/reportlab-users is that the address you used? I see messages in the archives so some people can use it.-- Robin Becker

Re: Reportlab / platypus bug?

2022-03-15 Thread Robin Becker
years) at https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/reportlab-users is that the address you used? I see messages in the archives so some people can use it.-- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: strange problem building non-pure wheel for apple M1 arm64

2022-03-08 Thread Robin Becker
On 08/03/2022 16:08, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: Am 07.03.22 um 17:22 schrieb Robin Becker: I use brew to install freetype version 2.11.1. I find via google that homebrew/apple have split the installation of intel and arm64 into /usr/local and /opt/homebrew so I must modify the include_dirs

strange problem building non-pure wheel for apple M1 arm64

2022-03-07 Thread Robin Becker
doesn't want to use an arm64 dylib. Can macos experts assist? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: lxml empty versus self closed tag

2022-03-03 Thread Robin Becker
On 02/03/2022 18:39, Dieter Maurer wrote: Robin Becker wrote at 2022-3-2 15:32 +: I'm using lxml.etree.XMLParser and would like to distinguish from I seem to have e.getchildren()==[] and e.text==None for both cases. Is there a way to get the first to have e.text=='' I do not think

lxml empty versus self closed tag

2022-03-02 Thread Robin Becker
I'm using lxml.etree.XMLParser and would like to distinguish from I seem to have e.getchildren()==[] and e.text==None for both cases. Is there a way to get the first to have e.text=='' -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: preserving entities with lxml

2022-01-13 Thread Robin Becker
On 13/01/2022 09:29, Dieter Maurer wrote: Robin Becker wrote at 2022-1-13 09:13 +: On 12/01/2022 20:49, Dieter Maurer wrote: ... Apparently, the `resolve_entities=False` was not effective: otherwise, your tree content should have more structure (especially some entity reference children

Re: preserving entities with lxml

2022-01-13 Thread Robin Becker
On 12/01/2022 20:49, Dieter Maurer wrote: ... when run I see this $ python tmp/tlp.py using tostring xxml=b'a mysym; lt; amp; gt; #33; A' ET.tostring(tree)=b'a mysym; lt; amp; gt; #33; A' using attributes tree.text='a A' tree.getchildren()=[] tree.tail=None

preserving entities with lxml

2022-01-12 Thread Robin Becker
ibutes tree.text='a A' tree.getchildren()=[] tree.tail=None -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: lxml parsing with validation and target?

2021-11-03 Thread Robin Becker
On 02/11/2021 12:55, Robin Becker wrote: I'm having a problem using lxml.etree to make a treebuilding parser that validates; I have test code where invalid xml is detected and an error raised when the line below target=ET.TreeBuilder(), is commented out. . I managed to overcome

lxml parsing with validation and target?

2021-11-02 Thread Robin Becker
I'm having a problem using lxml.etree to make a treebuilding parser that validates; I have test code where invalid xml is detected and an error raised when the line below target=ET.TreeBuilder(), is commented out. The validation error looks as expected > python tlxml.py invalid.rml

Re: c extension finding the module in object initialization

2021-09-27 Thread Robin Becker
at seems more complex than is actually required for this simple case and has to wait until 3.6 dies for me :( -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

c extension finding the module in object initialization

2021-09-21 Thread Robin Becker
oduleDict. Any expertise or advice gratefully received. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

what to do with multiple BOMs

2021-08-19 Thread Robin Becker
is xml file 014.xml ]> \xef\xbb\xbfdata' which implies seems as though the extra BOM in the entity has been kept and processed into a different BOM meaning utf8. I think the test file is wrong and that multiple BOM chars in the entiry should have been removed. Am I right? -- Robin Bec

Re: basic auth request

2021-08-18 Thread Robin Becker
) setting up an opener. Both of these seem to be much more complex than is required to add the header. I thought there might be a shortcut or more elegant way to replace the old code, but it seems not thanks -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

basic auth request

2021-08-17 Thread Robin Becker
find I have no clear idea what encoding is allowed for the components of a basic auth input. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

error from pypa build

2021-08-05 Thread Robin Becker
n __enter__ > executable, scripts_dir = _create_isolated_env_venv(self._path) > File "/home/user/devel/reportlab/.py39/lib/python3.9/site-packages/build/env.py", line 221, in _create_isolated_env_venv > pip_distribution = next(iter(metadata.distributions(name='pip',

Re: Python script accessing own source code

2021-05-13 Thread Robin Becker
On 12/05/2021 20:17, Mirko via Python-list wrote: Am 12.05.2021 um 20:41 schrieb Robin Becker: ... ... since GvR has been shown to have time traveling abilities such a script could paradoxically appear acausally. -- yrs-not-too-seriously Robin Becker Not sure, if that's what

Re: Python script accessing own source code

2021-05-12 Thread Robin Becker
script python find-tomorrows-lotto-numbers.py since GvR has been shown to have time traveling abilities such a script could paradoxically appear acausally. -- yrs-not-too-seriously Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

new match statement and types

2021-03-15 Thread Robin Becker
fd0> is an A instance <__main__.B object at 0x7fe5a2248fd0> is an instance is this the right approach to this problem of distinguishing instances ? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: idlelib re-use

2021-01-29 Thread Robin Becker
Thanks, On 28/01/2021 19:57, Terry Reedy wrote: On 1/28/2021 5:53 AM, Robin Becker wrote: I googled in vain for instances where parts of idlelib are re-used in a simplistic way. I would like to use the editor functionality in a tkinter window and also probably run code in a subprocess

idlelib re-use

2021-01-28 Thread Robin Becker
I googled in vain for instances where parts of idlelib are re-used in a simplistic way. I would like to use the editor functionality in a tkinter window and also probably run code in a subprocess. Are there any examples around that do these sorts of things? -- Robin Becker -- https

Re: advice on debugging a segfault

2021-01-18 Thread Robin Becker
-- not segfaulting-ly yrs Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

advice on debugging a segfault

2021-01-17 Thread Robin Becker
I have a segfault in the 3.10 alpha 4 when running the reportlab document generation; all the other tests seem to have worked. I would like to ask experts here how to approach getting the location of the problem. I run recent archlinux. Below is the output of a test run with -Xdev

Re: Finding it very difficult to move pyexiv2 code from Python 2 to Python 3

2020-08-20 Thread Robin Becker
. so obviously I need to install some version of boost libs or Boost.Python etc etc. Gave up :( -luddite-ly yrs- Robin Becker The aur repository, no ? https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-exiv2/ Vincent that would work (if I had thought hard about it), but not for a pip

Re: Finding it very difficult to move pyexiv2 code from Python 2 to Python 3

2020-08-19 Thread Robin Becker
with exit status 1 so obviously I need to install some version of boost libs or Boost.Python etc etc. Gave up :( -luddite-ly yrs- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-19 Thread Robin Becker
he hyper-sensitivity of the woken rather dispiriting. -aged-ly yrs- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Robin Becker
construct https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/08/quantum-paradox-points-shaky-foundations-reality ReportLab has quite a lot of colour based words; so far I've only had a few related emails :) which mostly seem to end up in spam -hoping to escape victimhood-ly yrs- Robin Becker -- https://mail.

Re: Are instances of user-defined classes mutable?

2020-08-06 Thread Robin Becker
_main__.H object at 0x7f5bf72021f0>): 23} hash(h) 2 hash(list(d.keys())[0]) -3550055125485641917 h.a=33 hash(list(d.keys())[0]) -3656087029879219665 so the dict itself doesn't enforce immutability of its keys -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Formal Question to Steering Council (re recent PEP8 changes)

2020-07-03 Thread Robin Becker
the BBC of “social engineering” after its head of comedy said Monty Python’s white Oxbridge males were out of step with modern television. so is there a pep for alternate language names ;) -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pyinstaller

2020-06-12 Thread Robin Becker
On 11/06/2020 16:39, Grant Edwards wrote: the hands of the developer. I suppose the OP could quit and stand on the street corner with a cardboard sign: I would love to do that :) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pyinstaller

2020-06-11 Thread Robin Becker
fixed the false problem in a few days for me. I think my boss actually tried this, but I will check. Thanks Barry .... -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pyinstaller

2020-06-11 Thread Robin Becker
follow us on the upgrade tread wheel seems a bit arrogant. ChrisA -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pyinstaller

2020-06-11 Thread Robin Becker
On 10/06/2020 20:41, Chris Angelico wrote: . Python can be installed from the app store, or from a python.org downloader. If that's too much hassle for them, then they're going to need help *whatever* you do. works for windows 10, but probably not on older machines. The current exe

Re: pyinstaller

2020-06-10 Thread Robin Becker
of windows as well. Some people are reluctant to change old win 95/xp machines just to run a single app. I had supposed there might be a simple mechanism to get these applications validated in some way, but it seems not. MS seems uninterested. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: pyinstaller

2020-06-10 Thread Robin Becker
On 10/06/2020 16:11, Souvik Dutta wrote: I found this... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43777106/program-made-with-pyinstaller-now-seen-as-a-trojan-horse-by-avg Might be usefull, might be useless. Souvik flutter dev On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 7:18 PM Robin Becker wrote: . thanks

Re: pyinstaller

2020-06-10 Thread Robin Becker
On 10/06/2020 15:18, Souvik Dutta wrote: You might also try py2exe, in that way the user doesn't need to install python in her/his computer. Souvik flutter dev On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 7:18 PM Robin Becker wrote: I'm sure this has come up before, but a tiny pyinstaller created exe is being

pyinstaller

2020-06-10 Thread Robin Becker
the application. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.9.0b1 is now available for testing

2020-05-31 Thread Robin Becker
er Significant (t=-111.53) > ... Is this because I haven't built in the same way as Arch or are there real slowdowns in this beta? Or even dumber have I got the results the wrong way round? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.9.0b1 is now available for testing

2020-05-20 Thread Robin Becker
On 19/05/2020 23:41, Robin Becker wrote: .. robin@minikat:~/devel/reportlab $ $HOME/LOCAL/3.9b1/bin/python3.9 Python 3.9.0b1 (default, May 19 2020, 12:50:30) [GCC 10.1.0] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more informat

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.9.0b1 is now available for testing

2020-05-19 Thread Robin Becker
on3.9.9b1 virtualenvs using archlinux python 3.8.2 with /bin/python -mvirtualenv -p /home/robin/LOCAL/3.9b1/bin/python3.9 myenv I prefer the older virtualenv because it makes python executables which I can link to rather than always using an explicit path. Sorry for the noise. Barry -

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.9.0b1 is now available for testing

2020-05-19 Thread Robin Becker
appears to be in the same location as the system distutils?") distutils.__path__ ['/home/robin/LOCAL/3.9b1/lib/python3.9/distutils'] distutils.__file__ '/home/robin/LOCAL/3.9b1/lib/python3.9/distutils/__init__.py' is this a bug or have I built python 3.9.0b1 wrongly? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.9.0a6 is now available for testing

2020-04-29 Thread Robin Becker
norm=lambda m: m+(m and(m[-1]!='\n'and'\n'or'')or'\n') ^ SyntaxError: invalid string prefix so presumably there has been some parser / language change which renders and'\n' illegal. Is this a real syntax error or an alpha issue? It looks like the to

Re: Reduce waiting queue at supermarket from Corona with Python-Webapp

2020-03-20 Thread Robin Becker
. Women and children first is long gone the new British attitude is devil take the hindmost :) -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: link to venv python sees a different sys.path

2020-03-12 Thread Robin Becker
d something and its linked python now has the same behaviour as the venv version even when the --copies option is used. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: link to venv python sees a different sys.path

2020-03-12 Thread Robin Becker
On 11/03/2020 17:24, Dieter Maurer wrote: Robin Becker wrote at 2020-3-11 15:26 +: I'm trying to understand why python 3.8.2 venv behaves differently when it is executed va a link Make the env rptlab@everest:~/code/hg-repos $ python38 -mvenv __py__/382v ... so the linked

link to venv python sees a different sys.path

2020-03-11 Thread Robin Becker
packages rptlab@everest:~/code/hg-repos $ so the linked version of the venv python sees the base python site packages and not the expected venv site-packages. Is there a way to make the link work properly. This problem doesn't seem to occur with older virtualenv made environments. -

Re: ubuntu python 2.7 variations

2019-07-29 Thread Robin Becker
On 29/07/2019 12:33, Chris Angelico wrote: . Should I always be using self build python versions? If you want to maintain your own Python, then by all means, go ahead. I don't maintain my own Python 2.7, but I have a number of Python 3.x builds, since Debian Stretch doesn't ship with

ubuntu python 2.7 variations

2019-07-29 Thread Robin Becker
that this improves things and I shouldn't be using such low level code ... :( -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pysftp / paramiko problem

2019-06-14 Thread Robin Becker
server is using an earlier version of openssh or OS as it wants to use ssh-dss which is now considered unsafe (I believe). -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pysftp / paramiko problem

2019-06-14 Thread Robin Becker
File "/home/rptlab/tmp/tpy3/lib/python3.6/site-packages/paramiko/sftp_client.py", line 865, in _read_response self._convert_status(msg) File "/home/rptlab/tmp/tpy3/lib/python3.6/site-packages/paramiko/sftp_client.py", line 894, in _convert_status raise IOError(err

Re: pysftp / paramiko problem

2019-06-13 Thread Robin Becker
On 13/06/2019 05:56, dieter wrote: Robin Becker writes: On 12/06/2019 05:59, dieter wrote: Robin Becker writes: I am trying to convert older code that uses ftplib as the endpoint has switched to sftp only. ... Well with real sftp I can cd to that path so if it is a symlink it goes

Re: pysftp / paramiko problem

2019-06-12 Thread Robin Becker
On 12/06/2019 05:59, dieter wrote: Robin Becker writes: I am trying to convert older code that uses ftplib as the endpoint has switched to sftp only. I am using the pysftp wrapper around paramiko. The following script fails def main(): import pysftp with pysftp.Connection

pysftp / paramiko problem

2019-06-11 Thread Robin Becker
ell directly I needed to add HostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-dss for this host. Any pointers to what the problem could be? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 594 cgi & cgitb removal

2019-05-29 Thread Robin Becker
to provide nicely formatted traceback html. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

PEP 594 cgi & cgitb removal

2019-05-22 Thread Robin Becker
eans issues of control, where do the sources reside and other politics. Django has a similar feature to cgitb's output for tracebacks, but is too deeply embedded for use elsewhere; is there anything suitable elsewhere? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3.8 new deprecations

2019-05-21 Thread Robin Becker
r '#' formats >> >> Currently we build the extensions for 2.7 3.4-3.7 Windows 32 & 64 MacOS >> and linux. >> >> His patch is changing several ints to Py_ssize_t after defining >> PY_SSIZE_T_CLEAN. >> >> Can anyone say which versions/runtim

Python 3.8 new deprecations

2019-05-21 Thread Robin Becker
acOS and linux. His patch is changing several ints to Py_ssize_t after defining PY_SSIZE_T_CLEAN. Can anyone say which versions/runtimes this is needed for or can I just assume it has no effect in early versions. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

argparse namespace clashes

2019-02-27 Thread Robin Becker
things. Is there a recommendation anywhere for names and detinations to avoid? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: using zip for transpose

2019-02-21 Thread Robin Becker
On 21/02/2019 13:49, Peter Otten wrote: Robin Becker wrote: ... Isn't df.values a numpy array? Then try the more direct and likely more efficient df.values.tolist() or, if you ever want to transpose df.values.T.tolist() The first seems to achieve what your sample code does

using zip for transpose

2019-02-21 Thread Robin Becker
list just copied into the zip *args; I suppose calling zip(A[0],A[1],..A[len(A)-1]) cannot be how this is done. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is your experience porting Python 2.7.x scripts to Python 3.x?

2019-01-24 Thread Robin Becker
On 23/01/2019 21:51, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 1:36 PM Stefan Behnel wrote: . All right, but apart from absolute imports, the print function, and true division, what has Python 3.x ever done for us? *ducks* headaches :) -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org

Re: What is your experience porting Python 2.7.x scripts to Python 3.x?

2019-01-24 Thread Robin Becker
or the reportlab tests on windows 2.7 takes 68.7", 3.4 83.8", 3.5 77.0", 3.6 61.5" & 3.7 60.9"). At some point reportlab will be made 3.x only which will require more effort. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: builtins confusion

2018-11-05 Thread Robin Becker
On 05/11/2018 10:00, Thomas Jollans wrote: On 2018-11-05 10:47, Robin Becker wrote:     raise ImportError('This package should not be accessible on Python 3. '   'Either you are trying to run from the python-future src folder '   'or your installation

builtins confusion

2018-11-05 Thread Robin Becker
her builtins / __builtin__ try: import __builtin__ except ImportError: import builtins as __builtin__ -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Robin Becker
ocial systems that took centuries to build." these Vandals are probably not in favour of the #me-too movement either :) -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: This thread is closed [an actual new thread]

2018-10-02 Thread Robin Becker
ttps://docs.python.org/2/faq/general.html#why-is-it-called-python). Apparently we now also have the Spanish Inquisition :) -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] master/slave debate in Python

2018-09-26 Thread Robin Becker
y or probably at all) - Who is the "SJW brigade" of whom you speak? ... It didn't take me very long to find a connection between this thread and this phrase "I’m Tired of Being Tolerant" on these issues I am with the Voltaireans. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] master/slave debate in Python

2018-09-25 Thread Robin Becker
to see how such holy things spread into the world of OSS, and this is apparently only the beginning. +1 -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] master/slave debate in Python

2018-09-25 Thread Robin Becker
On 24/09/2018 17:30, Dan Purgert wrote: Robin Becker wrote: [...] just thought control of the wrong sort.. Is there "thought control of the right sort"? yes python is good python is good .... -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] master/slave debate in Python

2018-09-24 Thread Robin Becker
been using these sorts of terms for a long time without anyone objecting. This sort of language control is just thought control of the wrong sort. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-08-02 Thread Robin Becker
standard. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-08-02 Thread Robin Becker
es. In other cases it might detect sources of bugs, so IMHO it's better to have a close look at and possibly rewrite code that triggers the warning rather than to disable it. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-08-01 Thread Robin Becker
. Probably the code needs tightening so that we insist on using native strings everywhere; that's quite hard for py2/3 compatible code. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-08-01 Thread Robin Becker
nts to warn. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-08-01 Thread Robin Becker
e matter rest for a day or so, and then look at it with a fresh eye. .. my bad; not worrying enough about real problems -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-08-01 Thread Robin Becker
On 01/08/2018 09:52, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Robin Becker wrote: On 31/07/2018 16:52, Chris Angelico wrote: .. it says explicitly that numeric keys will use numeric comparison, but no . Technically, the comparison used is: a is b or a == b

Re: Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-08-01 Thread Robin Becker
On 31/07/2018 16:52, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:28 AM, MRAB wrote: On 2018-07-31 08:40, Robin Becker wrote: A bitbucket user complains that python 3.6.6 with -Wall -b prints warnings . The warning looks wrong to be. In Python 2, u'a' and b'a' would

Re: Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-07-31 Thread Robin Becker
On 31/07/2018 09:16, Paul Moore wrote: On 31 July 2018 at 08:40, Robin Becker wrote: A bitbucket user complains that python 3.6.6 with -Wall -b prints warnings for some reportlab code; the example boils down to the following ## C:\code\hg-repos\reportlab\tmp>cat tb.py if __nam

Are dicts supposed to raise comparison errors

2018-07-31 Thread Robin Becker
ng b'a' with 'a' (I suppose because they hash to the same chain). Is this code erroneous or is the warning spurious or wrong? -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: test for absence of infinite loop

2018-07-17 Thread Robin Becker
On 17/07/2018 12:16, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 17Jul2018 10:10, Robin Becker wrote: A user reported an infinite loop in reportlab. I determined a possible cause and fix and would like to test for absence of the loop. Is there any way to check for presence/absence of an infinite loop in python

Re: test for absence of infinite loop

2018-07-17 Thread Robin Becker
On 17/07/2018 10:32, Chris Angelico wrote: .. All you gotta do is solve the halting problem... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem ChrisA ah so it's easy :) -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

test for absence of infinite loop

2018-07-17 Thread Robin Becker
long, but that seems a bit flaky. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: about main()

2018-07-06 Thread Robin Becker
piler" and one will be provided, of course by that time they will all have forgotten about eating berries in favour of soma or equivalent. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3.7 configuration issue

2018-07-04 Thread Robin Becker
be that make silently allows extension builds to fail even if they are 'required' and that later causes an error in the install phase. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 3.7 configuration issue

2018-07-03 Thread Robin Becker
mp; make install Something in setup.py seems to want ctypes irrespective of what I give to configure; I don't actually know what the alternative to --with-system-ffi does, but it didn't work for me. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Multi-threading with a simple timer?

2018-07-03 Thread Robin Becker
signal.SIG_IGN) print("You entered: ", data) for i in reversed(xrange(15)): print i time.sleep(1) print 'finished!' if I leave out the signal.signal(signal.SIGALRM,signal.SIG_IGN) then the timeout function gets called anyway. -- Robin Becker -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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