[Pythonmac-SIG] We are keeping pythonmac-sig.

2025-05-26 Thread Jack Jansen via Pythonmac-SIG
Ok folks, There seems to be enough interest to keep the list, and it isn’t enough of a burden on me. We’ve now moved to mailman 3. Regards, Jack > On 21 May 2025, at 22:27, gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > >> >> On May 16, 2025, at 6:52 PM, Matthew Dixon Cowles wrote: >> >> Jack, >> >>> I

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Universal build launches as Intel on M1

2022-03-28 Thread jack . jansen
I can’t check right now (I don’t have a universal Python installed, just to separate intel and M1 pythons), but if you use Finder “Get Info” on the application bundle: does it show the “Open using Rosetta” checkbox? If it does: ensure it is unchecked. -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Need M1 Mac to Test

2022-01-12 Thread jack . jansen
No worries, you can do Python development during the Intel->Arm transition. And then in umpteen years during the Arm->RiscV transition, and after that: who knows…. (And you probably weren’t born for the 68000->PowerPC transition) :-) -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can&

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Need M1 Mac to Test

2022-01-12 Thread jack . jansen
m, if that:-) Looking at the timeline of the PowerPC->Intel transition I think most of the problem will be solved in another year, because pretty much everything will be available for arm natively. -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Need M1 Mac to Test

2022-01-12 Thread jack . jansen
in the correct directory everything works fine.The white windows will use python3 for arm, the cream windows will use python3 for intel. -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman > On 12 Jan 2022, at 17:29,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Error with mimetype on OS-X 11 (Big Sur)

2022-01-07 Thread jack . jansen
these environment variables are always cleared automatically (unless you have the com.apple.security.cs.allow-dyld-environment-variables entitlement, so if there’s a third party app somewhere in the chain that’s a no-no). -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app fails to build PyQt5 apps anymore

2022-01-03 Thread jack . jansen
ationServicescom.apple.trust-settings.admincom.apple.private.MobileContainerManager.lookupappDatapluginDatacom.apple.private.tcc.allowkTCCServiceAppleEventskTCCServicePhotoskTCCServiceDeveloperTool ``` Which looks reasonable... -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app fails to build PyQt5 apps anymore

2021-12-24 Thread jack . jansen
Apple for Monterey, maybe for accessing the window manager, and py2app doesn’t know about this? Anyone (Ronald, probably) have any idea? -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman > On 21 Dec 2021, at 12:46

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to include or install a Python runtime in an AppleScript applet

2021-10-03 Thread jack . jansen
Another option would be that the AppleScript checks whether the correct Python is installed (or maybe one of several usable Pythons, for example the official Python 3.x installer or a brew installation) and use that if it is. And if no suitable Python is found it could redirect the user to a web

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app: Can successfully create app with alias mode but version built for deployment returns an error message

2021-06-17 Thread jack . jansen
A quick guess: maybe pandas doesn’t like to be included into a py2app application in this way? I think `.pyx` files are Cython sources, and I think these need to be compiled on installation (which should have happend during py2app?). When you google for “pandas py2app” you’ll find people report

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] "pythonw" in a Unix build

2021-01-18 Thread Jack Jansen
would be glad to help as best I can. > > -CHB > > -- > Christopher Barker, PhD (Chris) > > Python Language Consulting > - Teaching > - Scientific Software Development > - Desktop GUI and Web Development > - wxPython, numpy, scipy, Cy

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] "pythonw" in a Unix build

2021-01-14 Thread Jack Jansen
gt; <mailto:chris.bar...@noaa.gov>___ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-S

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python on Mac

2020-12-30 Thread Jack Jansen
__ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't w

[Pythonmac-SIG] Apple Silicon, anyone?

2020-07-13 Thread Jack Jansen
Is anyone planning to track the Apple Silicon stuff and/or get a developer system, and see what needs to be done for Python? I can help out, if wanted, but I won’t be trying to get a developer system myself because I won’t be able to spend a lot of time. -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plans .....

2020-03-16 Thread Jack Jansen
tform-specific installation requirements (that bits of it go into /Library/Frameworks and other bits in /Application), and in the end you setup a few symlinks in the conda bin directory (or the conda per-environment bin directory, or however that works) and for a conda user the situation will be

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plans .....

2020-03-14 Thread Jack Jansen
. IIRC someone found the API by checking how >> the bundled java VM managed to use GUI APIs without being in an app bundle. >> >> Apple is clearly preferring application code packaged as app bundles, and >> effectively doesn’t care about traditional Unix-y use of macOS. Th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plans .....

2020-03-14 Thread Jack Jansen
sidering use cases > that involve distributing code through the macOS app store. > > Ronald > — > > Twitter: @ronaldoussoren > Blog: https://blog.ronaldoussoren.net/ <https://blog.ronaldoussoren.net/> -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plans .....

2020-03-11 Thread Jack Jansen
; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Christopher Barker, PhD > > Python Language Consulting > - Teaching > - Scientific Software Development > - Desktop GUI and Web Development > - wxPython, numpy, scipy, Cython > _

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems with the pythonmac-sig mailing list

2020-01-08 Thread Jack Jansen
Well, turns out the problem isn’t with the whole list, it’s just with that Criollo thread. Apparently the messages in that thread have gotten so big (>40K) because of all the code fragments and topquoting. So nothing to worry about. Jack > On 09-Jan-2020, at 00:16 , Jack Jansen

[Pythonmac-SIG] Problems with the pythonmac-sig mailing list

2020-01-08 Thread Jack Jansen
things may be a bit slow:-) -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Tkinter and PyObjC

2017-09-06 Thread Jack Jansen
this issue could be avoided by initialising > Tk before calling into Cocoa. > > Ronald > ___ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > unsubscribe: https://mail.pyth

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Uninstalling

2017-07-19 Thread Jack Jansen
o this? Thanks! > > Pito Salas > > > > ___ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pyt

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app .app crashes... but only when downloaded (quarantine)

2017-02-02 Thread Jack Jansen
206 > r12: 0x0000 r13: 0x0001 r14: 0x0006 > r15: 0x0001031516a0 > rip: 0x7fff8ccd6866 rfl: 0x0206 cr2: 0x000107e22100 > > Logical CPU: 0 > Error Code: 0x02000148 > Trap Number: 133 >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] apple-Python and TLS 1.0

2017-01-12 Thread Jack Jansen
, question 3a to some extent also is 2a. Regards, Jack > On 10 Jan 2017, at 20:54, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > >> On 10 Jan 2017, at 20:43, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> >> >>> On 10 Jan 2017, at 17:05, Jack Jansen wrote: >>> >>> I have complet

[Pythonmac-SIG] apple-Python and TLS 1.0

2017-01-10 Thread Jack Jansen
.html I think Python 2.7 older that 2.7.13 (i.e. including the apple-shipped Pythons) don’t support TLS 1.2 by default, which would seem to suggest that things like pip will stop working as of this summer. Or am I overreacting? -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don&#

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-09-13 Thread Jack Jansen
13 Sep 2016, at 22:26, Jack Jansen wrote: >> >> You’re absolutely right (both on SIP and on >> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework probably being a python.org install), >> sorry for the confusion. >> >> This seems to be due to the way Apple has done the “E

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-09-13 Thread Jack Jansen
/pip/issues/2468 If you can get rid of /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python in sys.path you should be all set. > On 13-Sep-2016, at 22:59 , Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > > >> On Sep 13, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Jack Jansen wrote: >> &g

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-09-13 Thread Jack Jansen
#x27;, > "[Errno 1] Operation not permitted: > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b64gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/_metadata.pyc'"), > > ('/System/Library/Framewo

[Pythonmac-SIG] Wanted: list admin for the PythonMac mailing list

2012-04-23 Thread Jack Jansen
quality software:-). I'll continue as a maintainer (as long as you let me:-), but i don't want to be the sole person responsible. -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] appscript path issue

2009-03-05 Thread Jack Jansen
rsion might well fail for hand-mounted NFS shares in non-standard locations... -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] python3 on my mac

2008-12-26 Thread Jack Jansen
LE from a Terminal window, just to check that it isn't giving useful output on stderr ("Error creating menu bar: bla bla bla"). -- Jack Jansen, , http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] LOLpatents

2008-12-13 Thread Jack Jansen
if it is, when is the best time to do so. I know some people who have been involved in patent fights, I will ask around. Could other people share their insights too, and/or ask around? Hmm, one of the inventors is our old friend Bill Bumgarner. Bill, are you still on the list? Can you sa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] lots of Python-Cocoa errors in XCode console window...

2008-11-03 Thread Jack Jansen
oc().init() ... The pool will be discarded when the thread exits, and that's that. Of course, if you want the pool to be emptied more often you have to add code to do that. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I d

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Example of stand-alone NSRunLoop?

2008-10-15 Thread Jack Jansen
t instance. NSApplication, NSFontManager, NSNotificationCentre, too many to mention, really. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] newbie questions about Mac APIs in Python

2008-10-14 Thread Jack Jansen
(as there's no window server). Hmm, maybe the speech stuff falls in this category after all, Apple may not want you to access the speaker if you're not the owner of the screen (the "you" here being the person running the script). -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Creating Application()

2008-08-24 Thread Jack Jansen
hat I've somehow cheated when I'm done: the GUI works, but I don't remember actually writing any code:-) -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman _

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problem with Framework

2008-08-10 Thread Jack Jansen
es to load a user-installed copy of Python 2.4 which doesn't exist. I assume that on your development machine you have 2.4 installed, and /Library (with the user-installed 2.4) takes precedence over / System/Library (with the Apple-installed 2.5) when you built the app. -- Jack Jansen

[Pythonmac-SIG] Is there still a good reason for separate macpython and pyobjc mailing lists?

2008-05-28 Thread Jack Jansen
Now that pyobjc is a first-class citizen of MacPython, is there any reason to maintain two mailing lists? Are there any people who are on one of the lists and not the other? -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Back-porting Python 2.3 to Mac OS X 10.5?

2008-04-17 Thread Jack Jansen
be a bit of a problem. The normal way to build for one platform on another platform is through the --host crosscompilation support of configure, but Python doesn't like that. Try starting with running the whole configure/build with CFLAGS="-arch ppc" in the environment. -- Ja

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Carbon bindings' future (was: Re: eliminating appscript-triggered Dock icon)

2008-04-09 Thread Jack Jansen
r *buf, int bufsiz" are represented as a single string on the Python side, and lots more) is probably difficult too. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman __

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] CoreGraphics, 10.5

2008-02-18 Thread Jack Jansen
;: test() ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of y

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Key Bindings on cross platform apps.

2008-02-03 Thread Jack Jansen
atible shortcuts (so find would be F3, probably). I don't like customizable keyboard shortcuts in general (this is what makes it impossible to type anything in someone else's Emacs, for example), but in this one case I think it's definitely worth it. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] python23 under leopard (intel mac)

2008-01-22 Thread Jack Jansen
something not being loaded into the shared library that's at the heart of the Python framework. Don't ask me what wasn't being loaded, this is really long ago (OSX 10.2, or 10.3 at the latest). If you look through the Makefile (Makefile.pre.in, configure.in, etc) you should be

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pystone numbers for different Macs...

2008-01-20 Thread Jack Jansen
someone else could try disabling three cores? If that increases the pystone number (in stead of decreasing it) this could point to a processor affinity problem in MacOSX. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of you

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pystone numbers for different Macs...

2008-01-20 Thread Jack Jansen
here must be yet another bottleneck... -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] newbie Mac switcher trying to set up django on Intel MacBook Pro Tiger

2008-01-03 Thread Jack Jansen
stallers for each of these hotfixes, and then have a umbrella installer that encompasses all of these? That way, as new problems surface the only work would be to create a hotfix installer for that single problem and do a tiny update to the umbrella installer. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] newbie Mac switcher trying to set up django on Intel MacBook Pro Tiger

2007-12-21 Thread Jack Jansen
ion modules being compatible with a fairly wide range of Python installations, but please let's try and keep it that way. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman __

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] newbie Mac switcher trying to set up django on Intel MacBook Pro Tiger

2007-12-21 Thread Jack Jansen
64-bit fix are likely to affect me are exactly zero (the "newcomer me" from this paragraph, not the "flesh and blood Jack" me:-). -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Go

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Any hints on building libpng universal?

2007-11-23 Thread Jack Jansen
build libpng universal, but problems with '-M' are usually solved by adding '--disable-dependency- tracking' to the configure command. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution --

[Pythonmac-SIG] Anyone playing with CoreAnimation yet?

2007-11-20 Thread Jack Jansen
I've just realised how powerful CoreAnimation is, and I want to start playing with it, especially with the interaction of CoreAnimation CALayer with "classic" AppKit views and how to treat events, etc. Is anyone else here using it, and/or interested in sharing experience?

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] sys.path on Leopard

2007-11-01 Thread Jack Jansen
jack/MyPythonPrependedPath' ends up as the first entry in sys.path. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillis

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python control/integration of a Cocoa/Quicktime application?

2007-10-27 Thread Jack Jansen
opment, i.e. when the library API has only a couple of calls you have the ObjC programmer write a minimal test script which you then port to Python, you could give this back to the ObjC developer. There's a very good chance this'll teach them enough Python to continue the testing

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python control/integration of a Cocoa/Quicktime application?

2007-10-26 Thread Jack Jansen
Easy in > python via Twisted, no doubt less so in cocoa. > > As always, any advice is much appreciated. > > Cheers, > Darran. > > -- > Darran Edmundson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.edmstudio.com > ___ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Audio_mac.py fails in writeframes

2007-10-11 Thread Jack Jansen
set to 0xFF) as a signed byte, which it cannot do. Change the struct.pack format from 'llHhllbbl' to 'llHhllBBl'. The code predates the distinction between signed and unsigned bytes in struct.pack. But be warned that this also shows how well-maintained the code is:-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 64-bit code

2007-06-17 Thread Jack Jansen
ngle toolkit for everything" paradigm will break, because Oldstyle-C-Quicktime will (in 64 bit space) lose it's ability to tweak the rendering so it'll be an edit- only API and QTKit will have to be used for rendering. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.

[Pythonmac-SIG] Democracy player

2007-06-16 Thread Jack Jansen
ructured and a joy to read. Definitely worth a look if you have a couple of hours to burn, -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman smime.p7s Descri

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] QuickTime: BeginFullScreen

2007-06-12 Thread Jack Jansen
may have applied in the past are no longer in force. TIA Ed Hartley ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your rev

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] findertools.launch reports "no eligible process"

2007-06-12 Thread Jack Jansen
aepack > aetools > aetypes > findertools > gensuitemodule > lib_scriptpackages > MiniAEFrame You missed EasyDialogs, which is also the one we may want to keep. It uses aepack for the file dialogs. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't d

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] findertools.launch reports "no eligible process"

2007-06-11 Thread Jack Jansen
se zap it now (at least in the trunk) so that problems show up sooner rather than later. I'm reasonably sure that there's various things that depend on it (possibly indirectly), these would need fixing then. At least if the module is scrapped now we should find out what breaks, --

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] findertools.launch reports "no eligible process"

2007-06-08 Thread Jack Jansen
t even be all that much work, but I simply don't have the time (and probably won't have the time in the coming few years). -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] StuffIt 10 can corrupt applications packaged with py2app

2007-04-26 Thread Jack Jansen
can't seem to find a way to set the folder background image through a shell command or applescript or anything... -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman __

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] StuffIt 10 can corrupt applications packaged with py2app

2007-04-25 Thread Jack Jansen
possible", in the full stuffit it's probably something similar. It's on by default, it's what makes stuffit do the full decoding and unpacking of, say, a .tar.gz. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be pa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Macintosh modules/Carbon/documentation

2007-04-02 Thread Jack Jansen
tional C++ bridge for Ambulant (which is my main project nowadays, and which is one of the things that makes me spend so little time with development of Python itself). But unfortunately getting the &*^$ thing in better shape for initial use is something that keeps slipping:-( -- Jack

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Macintosh modules/Carbon/documentation

2007-03-30 Thread Jack Jansen
he Python documentation, but the transformation from the official Apple C documentation is pretty clear (I think). -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recording audio on Mac

2007-03-26 Thread Jack Jansen
ay from it for years. Quicktime is probably your best option for recording from Python, but I wouldn't bet on it that all the correct functionality is exported to Python. But I'll be going to need some recording facilities too in the near future, so if there's something you

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to create a desktop alias to run a python file?

2007-03-23 Thread Jack Jansen
sktop/alfred_hw.app/alfred_hw << . #!/usr/bin/env python from Tkinter import Tk, Label r=Tk() Label(r, text="Hello World").pack() r.mainloop() . chmod +x ~/Desktop/alfred_hw.app/alfred_hw Is anyone else familiar with such simple .app bundles? -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to create a desktop alias to run a python file?

2007-03-23 Thread Jack Jansen
> chmod +x ~/Desktop/MyProg.app/MyProg > > double click MyProg on the desktop and it should launch your python > program using pythonw I was very surprised when I saw this, I'd never seen this before. And, indeed, when I tried it it didn't work:-( Maybe you skipped an im

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python and Zeroconf?

2006-12-26 Thread Jack Jansen
tween machines with 32 and 64 bit integers, but I recall that that has been solved also. And at least it isn't a problem for ppc/intel mac portability. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your re

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] problem fixing Carbon.AE/CarbonX.AE conflicts

2006-11-11 Thread Jack Jansen
and with cobject it can actuallybe done in a pretty safe way, so I would use something like thatnowadays.-- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman smime.p7s Descrip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bugs in _Qtmodule

2006-10-04 Thread Jack Jansen
tsupport, which leads to one C type being handled as CmpObj in stead of CmpInstObj. Hmm, well at least the patch will contain that information, I guess. Could you put it on sourceforge and assign it to me? -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-08 Thread Jack Jansen
The majority of the people seem to think the occasional job posting is fine, with this policy to be reviewed when we're sick and tired of the number of job postings. But as we've so far had only one in the 10+ years this list exists I think we're pretty safe for the time b

[Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-07 Thread Jack Jansen
e feedback as a guidance in the future. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC + AEInstallEventHandler crash?

2005-12-21 Thread Jack Jansen
ctly: AEInstallEventHandler is blissfully unaware of refcounts. It simply passes the address of the callback function object to the C AEInstallEventHandler, and hopes the object still exists when the callback comes. The workaround is to keep a reference to the object around. Which is appa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] universal python framework?

2005-12-09 Thread Jack Jansen
nicely in a different directory than the source, I'm doing that all the time), once for ppc once for x86, and then using lipo to combine everything. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dan

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style (spaces)

2005-11-30 Thread Jack Jansen
id not have the feature to set how many spaces a tabstop was it was decided to go with spaces for indenting: going with tabs would have meant unix- heads would be stuck with unusable 8-space indents. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don

[Pythonmac-SIG] Did anyone play with TransformProcessType yet?

2005-07-07 Thread Jack Jansen
m CVS can play around with it. Please reply also to me personally, I still have 847 pythonmac-sig mails waiting for me so if you reply only to the list it'll be a long time before I see it... -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can&#x

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Weird import problem with PythonIDE on Mac (was 'import problem')

2005-04-22 Thread Jack Jansen
nd this, I think Just wanted to make sure that if you had two edit windows open both with "run as __main__" selected they didn't influence each other. On the other hand I can imageine that if you do that, open two windows in __main__ mode, the behaviour you want is exactly that.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] webcam snapshot from Python

2005-04-16 Thread Jack Jansen
any feedback that it actually works. So please report back here. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pyth

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Audio I/O

2005-04-10 Thread Jack Jansen
he experimental database in Package Manager you'll see it listed. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist -

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Embedding with CW6

2005-04-03 Thread Jack Jansen
ms I made the switch from CW6 to CW7 in December 2001. The log messages seem to suggest that 2.2 was released with CW7. So that means 2.1 is the last version that'll build with CW6... -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want

[Pythonmac-SIG] Compiling Python on Tiger

2005-03-14 Thread Jack Jansen
If anyone has tried to build Python on Tiger: could you please contact me? I've received a bug report that I'd like some more data points on... -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your r

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Qualcomm Purevoice codec

2005-02-28 Thread Jack Jansen
urse, I've only tested it very lightly and it's very possible I forgot some essential things. Could you please check whether Python 2.4 (or its Carbon.Qt module used in 2.3) allows you to access the codec you need? -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] broken web link on Mac Python webpage

2005-02-20 Thread Jack Jansen
pantherfix> , which doesn't exist. The link works for me... So, either (a) I fixed it inadvertantly, (b) it only works for me, or (c) we're talking about different links? Can you check whether it works now, and if it doesn't give some details? -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Main Python on Mac version?

2005-02-17 Thread Jack Jansen
.3.5 MacOS 9.2: MacPython-OS9 2.3.5 MacOS 9 or 9.1: MacPython-OS9 2.3.5 Also install CarbonLib 1.3 from Apple MacOS 8.1 or later: MacPython-OS9 2.2.3 You may need to install Appearance Manager 1.1 on 8.1 Older MacOS releases, including all 68K Macintoshes: MacPython 1.5.2 -- Jack Jan

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fink, DarwinPorts vs py2app

2005-02-17 Thread Jack Jansen
f so few users. But then, I myself am one of those few:-) -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SI

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How do you find the app that matches a creator type

2005-02-12 Thread Jack Jansen
new stuff Steve (Our Beloved Leader, He Who Designed What No Man Designed Before, He Who Forever Enlightens Our Path, etc etc etc etc etc:-) came up with. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of y

[Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython 2.3.5 for OS9 Release Candidate available

2005-02-11 Thread Jack Jansen
MacOS9 release right: the license for Installer Vise will expire within a month, and it would be silly to shell out another $1000 for another year. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revol

[Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython 2.3.5 for 10.2 Release Candidate available

2005-02-10 Thread Jack Jansen
going to be the final installer, but before I publicly announce it I'd like a couple of positive replies. Also, the PackMan database for 10.2 isn't as complete as I'd like yet, that'll be done in the next few days. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] iTunes scripting/Python shilling opportunity?

2005-01-28 Thread Jack Jansen
eally make me happy if people looking for pet projects could have a look at this... -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] python.h and veclib.h incompatible?

2005-01-28 Thread Jack Jansen
honmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] coding preference

2005-01-23 Thread Jack Jansen
hat isn't available anywhere else". Whether that unique service is for you yourself only (as in a throwaway app) or for a larger community isn't the point. But if your app is competing with other products (an IDE, an image editing program, a database or spreadsheet, whatever) it wil

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python+Automator?

2005-01-23 Thread Jack Jansen
27;t mind having automator support in a future "MacPython for Tiger additions"... -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] coding preference

2005-01-20 Thread Jack Jansen
but doesn't behave like it. My solution: for throwaway applications consider a cross-platform toolkit, for anything serious use MVC and code the view and controller in a platform-native toolkit. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can&#

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] a question about paths

2005-01-18 Thread Jack Jansen
usr/bin and then running configure. [checking...] Yes, that's easiest. Or you can use the --with-python option to configure. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Namespace conflict with WebWare and PyObjC / Import safety (Was: how do I use twisted cfreactor?)

2005-01-15 Thread Jack Jansen
ntion is seen in the wild. Maybe it's worth it to report it to python-dev? -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG

[Pythonmac-SIG] Any suggestions for a questionnaire site?

2005-01-14 Thread Jack Jansen
sy to use and cheap (preferably free:-)? -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org h

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Testers needed again: Fix installer 1.2

2005-01-13 Thread Jack Jansen
On 11-jan-05, at 11:09, Michael Twomey wrote: Hi, I just tried out the installer and it works fine, but it appears to have littered my disk with CVS directories, was that intentional? (I'm guessing not) Good catch! I've created a new installer that doesn't have this problem.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MindVision Releases VISE X 1.5 for Mac OS X]

2005-01-12 Thread Jack Jansen
lease for OS9? I plan to do a final 2.3.5 release. But that does depend on my OS9 partition still starting up (I've reshuffled things), I'm not going to install OS9 and CodeWarrior and all that from scratch. -- Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can'

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] SOAPpy

2005-01-10 Thread Jack Jansen
on and not in the Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/ dir can anyone tell me where fpconst should be located? as well as whether python2.4 should be in the Library/Frameworks... dir? thanks in advance! KIM _______ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pyth

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Bob Ippolito's synopsis of Python(s) on OS X

2005-01-08 Thread Jack Jansen
sn't look like english:-). I haven't even had the time to seriously look at PyOXIDE, let alone the other contenders. But I'm still very interested in getting a good replacement for the IDE, it's just that I don't have the time to invest in it. Is there some way we could

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