Solaris 7 intel and Qmail install

1999-01-19 Thread Bert Beaudin
Hello all Trying to install qmail on a solaris 7 intel box. I have compiled other programs fine. When I try to install qmail I get the following. I have taken a look at the archives but not found any answers. Thanks for any help. Bert Beaudin chmod 755 makelib ./compile case_diffb.c ./c

HELP ! qmail-pop3d not timing out.

1999-01-19 Thread R Aldridge
Hi, I am having a few problems getting qmail-pop3d to time out. I was wondering if anyone else has had similar problems and could help me out. Once again, I imagine it is something I have set up wrongly in my qmail or tcpserver configuration. I have tried setting the tcpserver timeout to 180 seco

Re: Three solutions for spam

1999-01-19 Thread Racer X
>But blocking 25 is still not a feature. Nor is it a benefit to the >customer. You're arguing that it allows you to spend time providing other >benefits to your customer. Fine. *Those* are the benefits to your >customers, not the port blocking. And the hard reality of the situation >is that t

Re: Three solutions for spam

1999-01-19 Thread Racer X
>> Wrong. It simply requires you to use Radius and network equipment that >> allows you to send back filters in your Radius authentication. > >Good, I'm glad to hear that it's improved. (It certainly used to be the >case that this was hard.) So how many ISPs are going to be willing to do >this?

qmail error loggin

1999-01-19 Thread Matthias Pigulla
Hi mailinglist, where can I look up descriptions for error messages qmail logs, e.g. "I could'nt find any host by that name (#4.1.2)"? I once found the descriptions in one of the many (Well done, Dan!) documentation files... but where? Matthias -- w e b f a c t o r y | matthias pigulla

Re: Three solutions for spam

1999-01-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Racer X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Don't fool yourself. The benefit to the customer in blocking port 25 >> outbound is basically nonexistent; it's entirely about administrative >> resources devoted to keeping one's site from abusing the Internet. It >> may be necessary, but you can't sell i

Re: Three solutions for spam

1999-01-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Racer X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Of course there is. Blocking port 25 for all their dialup lines is a >> simple router configuration. Re-enabling it on a customer-by-customer >> basis on dynamic dialups requires software to interact with the >> terminal authentication server that they'd p

Fwd: Fwd: Re: Unsubscribe info

1999-01-19 Thread Keith Burdis
Here's a copy of the message I sent to the ezmlm mailing list, and the detailed reply I got from Fred Lindberg describing why ezmlm can't do the rewriting and how qmail would have to do it. - Keith - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: Fwd: Re: Unsubscribe info From:

Re: VERB

1999-01-19 Thread Matthias Pigulla
Russell Nelson wrote: > No, that's not how I expect it would work. The list manager would > append a trailer, and the trailer would have some magic that caused > qmail-remote to merge the envelope recipient in. The user would see > that trailer, fail to be stupid enough to miss it, and cut/paste

Re: VERB

1999-01-19 Thread Pavel Kankovsky
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Matthias Pigulla wrote: > Bounces generated by some MTA would be required to include the out of > band data too, and I think the unreliability of "foreign" MTAs was one > of the reasons why Dan invented VERPs, for they encapsulate the bouncing > address in the recipient addre

Re: VERB

1999-01-19 Thread Matthias Pigulla
Matthias Pigulla wrote: > So, what about a X-Header holding the data? This would require the [snip] > address in the recipient address, which is guaranteed to be returned ;-) Sorry, seems as if I misunderstood Russells intention, I thought he wanted to move VERPs into VERBs. He just want's "indiv

Re: VERB

1999-01-19 Thread Russell Nelson
Matthias Pigulla writes: > But anyway: your "new" unsubscription mechanism only works if the whole > message (containing the "out of band" data) would be returned. No, that's not how I expect it would work. The list manager would append a trailer, and the trailer would have some magic that cau

Re: VERB

1999-01-19 Thread thomas . erskine-dated-a3feeb1bfa535e22
On 19 Jan 1999, Russell Nelson wrote: > Okay, VERP has solved the bounce problem. Now we need VERB (Variable > Envelope Recipient in Body) to solve the unsubscribe problem. > Basically, we need qmail-remote to merge the envelope recipient into > the message somewhere. The problem, of course, is

Re: relays and VERP

1999-01-19 Thread Pavel Kankovsky
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Mark Delany wrote: > This sounds like a job for an ESMTP option. It seems like a logical solution. Unfortunately, it is qmail-send that needs to know it can group deliveries, not qmail-remote. --Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak [ Boycott Microsoft--http://www.vcnet.com/bms ] "NSA

Re: VERB

1999-01-19 Thread Matthias Pigulla
Russell Nelson wrote: > In case it's not obvious what I'm getting at, imagine if you could say: > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > instead of the usual: > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] BWT I encountered some problems with remote hosts limiting the sender address t

Re: VERB

1999-01-19 Thread Keith Burdis
On Tue 1999-01-19 (20:11), Russell Nelson wrote: > Okay, VERP has solved the bounce problem. Now we need VERB (Variable > Envelope Recipient in Body) to solve the unsubscribe problem. > Basically, we need qmail-remote to merge the envelope recipient into > the message somewhere. The problem, of

RFC qmail optimizations [Was: relays and VERP]

1999-01-19 Thread Matthias Pigulla
Pavel Kankovsky wrote: > Conclusion: qmail does not need to send multiple copies of VERPed message > if the destination SMTP server runs qmail (or any other VERP-enabled MTA > if such MTA existed). Without having looked at this closer (I claim to _remember_ from the source code), I assume the add

Re: relays and VERP

1999-01-19 Thread Mark Delany
This sounds like a job for an ESMTP option. At 08:28 PM 1/19/99 +0100, Pavel Kankovsky wrote: >SMTP conversation: >-- >> MAIL FROM: >> 250 ok >< RCPT TO: >> 250 ok >< DATA >> 354 go ahead >< Subject: VERP test >< >< . >> 250 ok 916770426 qp 1077 >-- > >Delivered message: >--

Re: Possible Anti-spam solution (was Re: Example of the anti-fax effect)

1999-01-19 Thread Mark Delany
At 02:05 PM 1/19/99 +0100, Pavel Kankovsky wrote: >On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Mark Delany wrote: > >> Then what will you match on? The content? How much code does it take to >> randomize the content? > >You (as a spammer) can't randomize the contents beyond the point where an >average reader would stop

Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@rr.iij4u.or.jp: failure notice]

1999-01-19 Thread D. J. Bernstein
Peter van Dijk writes: > VERY weird.. why do I get this bounce? You're seeing the combination of two problems: an RFC 1123 violation in sendmail and a shortsighted design decision in fetchmail. Background: If an MTA can't deliver a message, it sends a bounce back to the message's return path. Ma

VERB

1999-01-19 Thread Russell Nelson
Okay, VERP has solved the bounce problem. Now we need VERB (Variable Envelope Recipient in Body) to solve the unsubscribe problem. Basically, we need qmail-remote to merge the envelope recipient into the message somewhere. The problem, of course, is *where* to insert it. What I did for one cust

Re: Three solutions for spam

1999-01-19 Thread Racer X
>> * It takes a lot less time and effort to figure out when someone is >> spamming and who they are, since everything is occurring on your mail >> server. > >This is not a benefit to the customer. False. It saves time (read: money) on the admin side of things, allowing you to do other things wit

Re: How do I filter outgoing mail based on Sender ?

1999-01-19 Thread Luca Olivetti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > The problem comes when an email is addressed to _two_ or more people. > One of those people is local, but more often than not the other(s) are > not. Qmail delivers a copy to the local address, and another copy into > the outgoing ppp maildir for e

Re: Three solutions for spam

1999-01-19 Thread Racer X
>Of course there is. Blocking port 25 for all their dialup lines is a >simple router configuration. Re-enabling it on a customer-by-customer >basis on dynamic dialups requires software to interact with the terminal >authentication server that they'd probably have to write themselves. Wrong. It

relays and VERP

1999-01-19 Thread Pavel Kankovsky
SMTP conversation: -- > MAIL FROM: > 250 ok < RCPT TO: > 250 ok < DATA > 354 go ahead < Subject: VERP test < < . > 250 ok 916770426 qp 1077 -- Delivered message: -- Return-Path: Delivered-To: user@host2 Received: (qmail 16270 invoked from network); 19 Jan 1999 18:27:09

Re: unresolvable relay

1999-01-19 Thread Michael Bracker
hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > Remote host said: 451 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... unresolvable relay > host name [209.167.138.195]; check your reverse-IP configuration. > I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. Your reverse-lookup is not installed: mehl:/var/qmail

Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@rr.iij4u.or.jp: failure notice]

1999-01-19 Thread Mario Lorenz
Am 19. Jan 1999, um 18:48:11 schrieb Peter van Dijk: > VERY weird.. why do I get this bounce? > [...] > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: (qmail 38528 invoked from network); 20 Jan 1999 02:44:40 +0900 > Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) > by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jan 1999 02:44

unresolvable relay

1999-01-19 Thread info
host name Hello qmail world ! This is the message i'am getting sending mail from our server : "Hi. This is the qmail-send program at alphainter.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <[

Re: Some Progress...

1999-01-19 Thread Craig Burley
D. J. Bernstein writes: >Craig Burley writes: >> That is, I'd like outgoing email to be from `[EMAIL PROTECTED]', or >> `[EMAIL PROTECTED]', or whatever (jcb-sc.com being my domain name). > >ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/faq/appearance.html#user-masquerading That's helped some. I've made

pipelining

1999-01-19 Thread Dave Sill
Discussion of pipelining on the Postfix list got me thinking. I know qmail supports pipelining on the SMTP server side because qmail-smtpd says so in response to HELO/EHLO. But does it support it on the client side? I don't see any reference to pipelining in qmail-remote.c. -Dave

Re: Emacs MUA's and sendmail errors

1999-01-19 Thread Dave Sill
"D. J. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dave Sill writes: >> sendmail-send-it looks for a list of undeliverable recipients in the >> combined stdout/stderr from sendmail. > >That will catch most errors, with either sendmail or qmail, but it's not >reliable. Many current operating systems wil

Re: Newsgroups w/qmail

1999-01-19 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
"Brock Eastman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know how to configure news on a red hat 5.1 server? Is this a > qmail thing or something separate. Please let me know. *Quite* seperate. Read the INN documentation. -- Lars Balker Rasmussen, Software Engineer, Mjolner Informatics ApS [

Newsgroups w/qmail

1999-01-19 Thread Brock Eastman
Hi Does anyone know how to configure news on a red hat 5.1 server? Is this a qmail thing or something separate. Please let me know. For all of you who are beginning with qmail, check out my help pages that this mailing list has helped me with. http://qmail.n2-2000.com Brock Eastman

[MAILER-DAEMON@rr.iij4u.or.jp: failure notice]

1999-01-19 Thread Peter van Dijk
VERY weird.. why do I get this bounce? - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Return-Path: <> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 2778 invoked from network); 19 Jan 1999 17:46:12 - Received: from zopie.attic.vuurwerk.nl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by koek.attic.vuurwerk.

Re: remember this?

1999-01-19 Thread Steve Vertigan
Peter van Dijk wrote: > Well, make sure a posting from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (me) then gets approved > automatically since [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on the list. I know that > a few subscribers use this method to filter out mail. Can be done automatically > I guess. Yes it's easily done in ezmlm (of cour

Re: How do I filter outgoing mail based on Sender ?

1999-01-19 Thread thomas . erskine-dated-bc442beb7090a82a
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Thomas Andrews wrote: > Russell Nelson wrote: > > > > Sounds like somebody is trying to parse the RFC822 headers again (but > > not clear who that is). This is not right. Once you've got an > > envelope address, you preserve it forever. Is fetchmail parsing the > > messag

5,000 dial-up users.

1999-01-19 Thread Andy Cowles
Hi Guys (and Gals), I could really do with some help at the moment. I am trying to configure email for 5,000 users using Linux on Intel systems. I don't know how well qmail (or the equipment) will scale so any reccommendations for optimal performance will be appreciated. Should I be using a sep

Re: Mailbox altered by pine?

1999-01-19 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Stanley Horwitz wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Sam wrote: > > That's some Pine 4 gibberish. You can get rid of it by going into setup, > > and checking off "quell-folder-internal-msg". > > > > This message will actually stay there, but, if something gets rid of it, > > it wo

Re: Mailbox altered by pine?

1999-01-19 Thread Stanley Horwitz
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Sam wrote: > That's some Pine 4 gibberish. You can get rid of it by going into setup, > and checking off "quell-folder-internal-msg". > > This message will actually stay there, but, if something gets rid of it, > it won't come back. Would you happen to know how to make that

Re: Possible Anti-spam solution (was Re: Example of the anti-faxeffect)

1999-01-19 Thread Pavel Kankovsky
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Mark Delany wrote: > Then what will you match on? The content? How much code does it take to > randomize the content? You (as a spammer) can't randomize the contents beyond the point where an average reader would stop being able to understand it. --Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak

Re: Three solutions for spam

1999-01-19 Thread l41484
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Edward S. Marshall wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Invalid assumption; you do not have the "right" to send me mail. You -may- > > > be able to send me mail if you pass my "arbitrary criteria". > > > > Do you warn your customers, that they may neve

qmail Digest 19 Jan 1999 11:00:08 -0000 Issue 525

1999-01-19 Thread qmail-digest-help
qmail Digest 19 Jan 1999 11:00:08 - Issue 525 Topics (messages 20566 through 20653): qmail bandwidth usage versus other MTAs 20566 by: "Brian S. Craigie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20618 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Three solutions for spam 20567 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 205

Re: How do I filter outgoing mail based on Sender ?

1999-01-19 Thread Thomas Andrews
Russell Nelson wrote: > > Sounds like somebody is trying to parse the RFC822 headers again (but > not clear who that is). This is not right. Once you've got an > envelope address, you preserve it forever. Is fetchmail parsing the > message? How are you getting the recipient information when t

Re: Local delivery and host masquerading

1999-01-19 Thread Thomas Andrews
Niels, the instructions here... http://home.earthlink.net/~dougvw/mailqueue.html worked for me almost 100% I don't have ISDN though - just a normal modem dialup. Hope this helps. Niels Jensen wrote: > > Hi, > > I am trying to get qmail working, and need some help... > > I have a machine connec

Re: Local delivery and host masquerading

1999-01-19 Thread Vern Hart
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Niels Jensen wrote: > > So, some of my control files are: > > me:f64.work.com > locals:f64.work.com (to define local addresses) > defaultdomain: work.com > defaulthost: sonic.net (my ISP) > plusdomain:work.com > smtproutes::mail.sonic.net > >

Re: Mailbox altered by pine?

1999-01-19 Thread Ludwig Pummer
At 08:09 PM 1/18/99 , Sam wrote: >On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Mate Wierdl wrote: >> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:55:20 -0600 (EST) >> From: Mail System Internal Data <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA >> X-IMAP: 0916718116 11 > >That's some Pine 4 gibbe