bounces

1999-04-19 Thread Bart Blanquart
I received a bunch of these today: > Subject: failure notice >Date: 19 Apr 1999 07:38:51 - >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at julia.argo.be. > I tried to deliver a bounce message to t

qmail Digest 19 Apr 1999 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 615

1999-04-19 Thread qmail-digest-help
qmail Digest 19 Apr 1999 10:00:00 - Issue 615 Topics (messages 24405 through 24419): QMAIL setup 24405 by: ivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qmail on FreeBSD 24406 by: Keith Burdis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Help with qmail and RedHat 5.2 24407 by: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: bounces

1999-04-19 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 11:48:10AM +0200, Bart Blanquart wrote: > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at julia.argo.be. > > I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce bounced! > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Connected to 207.112.133.160 but sender was rejected. > > Rem

problem with Maildir

1999-04-19 Thread Jay & Julie
I am getting the error: unable to chdir to Maildir in /log/messages when I am trying to inject. I made a switch from mbox to Maildir, and my incoming mail doesn't seem to work anymore.. Anybody who can help?

RE: qmail aliasing/virt users

1999-04-19 Thread RaTao von J
you must be forgeting the dot "." in the end of the file ;) read the docs On 19-Apr-99 Marco Leeflang wrote: > I have to setup a lot of full-name mail users. > example: > marco.leeflang> user leem > so i have made a file in /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-marco:leeflang with > leem in this file. >

Re: problem with Maildir

1999-04-19 Thread Juan Carlos Castro y Castro
Maildir aren't created automatically. You have to create them for every existing user (nothing some smart awk-ing and grep-ing can't do) and place a template in /etc/skel to make your life easier in the future. Jay & Julie wrote: > > I am getting the error: unable to chdir to Maildir in /log/mes

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
"Adam D. McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | This is what I don't understand -- I didn't apply the dns patch, but I never | have trouble sending to AOL. Yet so many other people do. Is there a | reason for this? Dunno. I never send to aol.

Re: Changing RH 5.1 to OpenLinux 2.2

1999-04-19 Thread Sam
Bill Parker writes: > and just mount it at boot-up? Has anyone compiled qmail 1.03 > on a glibc based system, No problems here. -- Sam

Re: AOL Problems

1999-04-19 Thread Sam
Hitesh Patel writes: > Ok.. i've read the messages about the oversize dns packets and aol > problems. So I added a line into /var/qmail/control/smtproutes like > this: > > aol.com:ya.mx.aol.com > > I keep getting the unable to establish an smtp connection error messages > in my logs. I

Re: Minor problem with leaving messages on server

1999-04-19 Thread Sam
Rick McMillin writes: > We're experiencing a minor problem with setting a mail client > to leave messages on the server. It's not even really a problem, > just something annoying. > > Anyway, when a mail client is set to leave messages on the server, > every once in a while, it will re-receive

RE: Qmail and tcpserver bootup script

1999-04-19 Thread Jeff Lush
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Jeff Lush wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I am a bit of a newbie to Unix and installed qmail for the > first time this > > weekend on FreeBSD 3.1. Installation and configuration was really very > > straight forward. In no time I had setup selective relaying for > my LAN and

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread Jeff Hayward
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Adam D. McKenna wrote: This is what I don't understand -- I didn't apply the dns patch, but I never have trouble sending to AOL. Yet so many other people do. Is there a reason for this? [lack of problem] correlates pretty well with the use of the bind 8.1 resol

qmail aliasing/virt users

1999-04-19 Thread Marco Leeflang
I have to setup a lot of full-name mail users. example: marco.leeflang> user leem so i have made a file in /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-marco:leeflang with leem in this file. al works fine. but now i have many files and want to setup these users in the assign file. all attempts still won't work. W

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread Adam D. McKenna
From: Richard Letts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : lots of possible reasons: : - entry in smtproutes (I hand AOL-mail of to my ISp to deliver for me) : - transparent SMTP proxy firewall between you and AOL : - serialmail er, no. I think you're confused. What I was saying is that I haven't done anythi

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread Richard Letts
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Adam D. McKenna wrote: > From: Scott Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > : Notice also that you might be sent a reply that is smaller than 512 > : bytes, but, because of information in your cache, the resolver might > : hand you more bytes than that. > > This is what I don'

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread David Villeger
At 05:49 PM 4/19/99 -0400, Adam D. McKenna wrote: >From: Richard Letts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >: lots of possible reasons: >: - entry in smtproutes (I hand AOL-mail of to my ISp to deliver for me) >: - transparent SMTP proxy firewall between you and AOL >: - serialmail > >er, no. I think you're c

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
I'm running 4.9.7 on an unpatched qmail and have no problems either strange. On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Jeff Hayward wrote: -| On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Adam D. McKenna wrote: -| -|This is what I don't understand -- I didn't apply the dns patch, but I never -|have trouble sending to AOL. Yet

Re: Minor problem with leaving messages on server

1999-04-19 Thread Eric Dahnke
Hello, I'm not positive about this, but doesn't that happen if the client is switching between e-mail programs. One day outlook, next day pegasus, next netscape, etc. Could also have to do with the pop3 connection being cut before the quit cmd. Just guesses - eric Rick McMillin escribió: > >

Minor problem with leaving messages on server

1999-04-19 Thread Rick McMillin
We're experiencing a minor problem with setting a mail client to leave messages on the server. It's not even really a problem, just something annoying. Anyway, when a mail client is set to leave messages on the server, every once in a while, it will re-receive all of the messages causing there t

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread Adam D. McKenna
From: Scott Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Notice also that you might be sent a reply that is smaller than 512 : bytes, but, because of information in your cache, the resolver might : hand you more bytes than that. This is what I don't understand -- I didn't apply the dns patch, but I never hav

Re: Solaris 7 x86 and number of process limitation

1999-04-19 Thread David Villeger
At 08:19 PM 4/16/99 -0700, Mark Delany wrote: >It wasn't so much the blocking I was thinking of (and I confess ignorance on >this front) it was on the basis that multiple processes are writing to the >same pipe, thus a 2 byte write could get interspersed with another two byte >write by another

Re: Sending messages

1999-04-19 Thread Adamo UNIX
--- Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 11:14:38AM -0700, Adamo UNIX > wrote: > > Hi all! > > I'm starting to use qmail today and get a trouble > (the first trouble > > :): When I use Netscape to send an e-mail, it > doesn't ask me the user > > password, and

Re: ERR User has no $HOME/maildir (STILL GETTING ERROR)

1999-04-19 Thread Keith Burdis
On Mon 1999-04-19 (14:01), Jay wrote: > >OK, thanks for your help so far, but I am still getting the error > > > >/home/whoever/Maildir > >exists now, and it has mail in it but outlook express responds first >with rejecting the password, but gives me that same err

Re: ERR User has no $HOME/maildir (STILL GETTING ERROR)

1999-04-19 Thread Reid Sutherland
That's a little incorrect, if checkpassword wasn't working it would give '-ERR authentication failed' when connecting to the POP3 service. This has to do with qmail-local. Reid Sutherland Network Administrator ISYS Technology Inc. http://www.isys.ca Fingerprint: 1683 001F A573 B6DF A074 0C96 DB

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
xs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | hey all, as long as we're talking about aol.com's problems when using | qmail and what not. AOL does not have a problem. It's a bug in qmail. Period. | does anyone know of any other sites that are known to | have the same such problem? Sure. There are a numb

Re: Relay Question

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 01:27:52PM -0500, Jim Beam wrote: > We will be implementing our QMail system here shortly, and I have a > question about relaying... > > I would like to allow only our nets to relay ex; 208.150.*.* AND > 207.90.209.* - How can this be done in QMail? > > As allways, I than

Re: Sending messages

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 11:14:38AM -0700, Adamo UNIX wrote: > Hi all! > I'm starting to use qmail today and get a trouble (the first trouble > :): When I use Netscape to send an e-mail, it doesn't ask me the user > password, and the e-mail goes to the target without problems. > H

Re: ERR User has no $HOME/maildir (STILL GETTING ERROR)

1999-04-19 Thread Jay
- Original Message - From: Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:16 PM Subject: Re: ERR User has no $HOME/maildir (STILL GETTING ERROR) > On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 02:01:13PM -0400, Jay wrote: > > OK, thanks for your help so far, but

AOL Problems

1999-04-19 Thread Hitesh Patel
Ok.. i've read the messages about the oversize dns packets and aol problems. So I added a line into /var/qmail/control/smtproutes like this: aol.com:ya.mx.aol.com I keep getting the unable to establish an smtp connection error messages in my logs. I can't figure out what is going on..

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread xs
i'm sorry i did not make my question clear, is it a popular thing to do as aol.com as done? i'm debating recompiling qmail here. but it seems that the patch is no big deal so i might as well do it. also may i add that it's not aol, it's not qmail, but it would be the rfc that states the correct

Re: oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
xs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | i'm sorry i did not make my question clear, | is it a popular thing to do as aol.com as done? It's occasional. | also may i add that it's not aol, it's not qmail, but it would be the rfc | that states the correct behavior, and qmail abides by it. No. Qmail is d

Relay Question

1999-04-19 Thread Jim Beam
We will be implementing our QMail system here shortly, and I have a question about relaying... I would like to allow only our nets to relay ex; 208.150.*.* AND 207.90.209.* - How can this be done in QMail? As allways, I thank you for your time and expertise.

Re: ERR User has no $HOME/maildir (STILL GETTING ERROR)

1999-04-19 Thread Reid Sutherland
Did you check the /etc/passwd file to make sure it's pointing to the right dir? Such as /home/whoever.   Also, chown the home to that person, chown -R whoever /home/whoever   Try those. Reid SutherlandNetwork AdministratorISYS Technology Inc.http://www.isys.caFingerprint: 1683 001F A573 B6D

oversized dns packet

1999-04-19 Thread xs
hey all, as long as we're talking about aol.com's problems when using qmail and what not. does anyone know of any other sites that are known to have the same such problem? lates, -xs end +-+ |Greg Albrecht KF4MKT [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |Safari Internet

Sending messages

1999-04-19 Thread Adamo UNIX
Hi all! I'm starting to use qmail today and get a trouble (the first trouble :): When I use Netscape to send an e-mail, it doesn't ask me the user password, and the e-mail goes to the target without problems. How can I fix it? Is the fix in qmail configuration or in some ot

Re: Another q about open relaying

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:38:17PM -0300, olli wrote: > But if I've domain in rcpthosts this domain is able to relay via my > host.Thus I think that rcpthosts should contain only hostname & aliases > for it. Am I wrong? You're wrong. rcpthosts has nothing at all to with who can relay. It is a lis

RE: aol.com bounces... our problem or their problem?

1999-04-19 Thread Peeter Pirn
According to the FAQ: 2.5. How do I deal with ``CNAME lookup failed temporarily''? The log showed that a message was deferred for this reason. Why is qmail doing CNAME lookups, anyway? Answer: The SMTP standard does not permit aliased hostnames, so qmail has to do a CNAME lookup in DNS for every

ERR User has no $HOME/maildir (STILL GETTING ERROR)

1999-04-19 Thread Jay
OK, thanks for your help so far, but I am still getting the error   /home/whoever/Maildir exists now, and it has mail in it but outlook express responds first with  rejecting the password, but gives me that same error again. ERR User has no $HOME/maildir any other ideas?

Re: Already delivered to instead of bounce problem.

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 12:53:39PM -0500, Greg Moeller wrote: > I'm still working the last of my problems with integrating the mailserver here. > > I setup a default forward for our main domain and made that domain a virtual > domain so that I could control the order of delivery. (alias check be

Already delivered to instead of bounce problem.

1999-04-19 Thread Greg Moeller
I'm still working the last of my problems with integrating the mailserver here. I setup a default forward for our main domain and made that domain a virtual domain so that I could control the order of delivery. (alias check before local delivery) That part is working correctly. What isn't work

Re: Another q about open relaying

1999-04-19 Thread olli
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Chris Johnson wrote: > > I am having trouble preventing Qmail from doing open relaying without > > stopping mail service entirely. This is on a system that runs Listserv(R) > > from the L-Soft Corporation. When I put the system's name (and aliases) in > > a rcpthosts file, ope

-ERR user has no $HOME/Maildir

1999-04-19 Thread Jay
Hi, I'm trying to get the qmail pop3d working, and the error message I keep getting when I am checking mail is -ERR user has no $HOME/Maildir /home/whoever/Mailbox exists, and I specify /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Mailbox in inetd.conf any ideas?

Re: REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS -ERR user has no $HOME/Maildir

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 12:43:23PM -0400, Jay wrote: > Sorry, I sent that last one using the wrong addy > > Hi, > I'm trying to get the qmail pop3d working, and the error message I keep > getting when I am checking mail is -ERR user has no $HOME/Maildir > /home/whoever/Mailbox exists, and I speci

Changing RH 5.1 to OpenLinux 2.2

1999-04-19 Thread Bill Parker
Hello, I am going to wipe RH 5.1 off of my test Linux box, and install OpenLinux 2.2 (the latest distro from Caldera)...Now since it is glibc based, I have a few questions about drive layout: The following products are going to be installed on the hard drive: qm

Re: REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS -ERR user has no $HOME/Maildir

1999-04-19 Thread Reid Sutherland
Also verify in your /etc/passwd file that the homedir entry is the same as the actual user's homedir and that it exsists! And make sure in /var/qmail/rc it states ./Maildir/ instead of /Mailbox (or something similar) Reid Sutherland Network Administrator ISYS Technology Inc. http://www.isys.ca F

REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS -ERR user has no $HOME/Maildir

1999-04-19 Thread Jay
Sorry, I sent that last one using the wrong addy   Hi,I'm trying to get the qmail pop3d working, and the error message I keepgetting when I am checking mail is -ERR user has no $HOME/Maildir/home/whoever/Mailbox exists, and I specify  /bin/checkpassword/var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Mailboxin ine

Re: Help: Avoiding qmail-smtp do a DNS-Lookup

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 05:24:41PM +0200, Joerg Toellner wrote: > a) can i somehow disable the DNS-Lookup from qmail-smtp? qmail-smtpd doesn't do the DNS lookup; whatever you start it from does. If you're starting it from tcpserver, investigate the -H option. Chris

Re: aol.com bounces... our problem or their problem?

1999-04-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
David A Galbraith CIRT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | 921710651.349026 starting delivery 46759: msg 2501 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 921710651.378220 delivery 46759: deferral: CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3)/ | | | Is this something I should fix/can fix? or is this something aol has

aol.com bounces... our problem or their problem?

1999-04-19 Thread David A Galbraith CIRT
I'm getting a bunch of these in the logs... 921710651.349026 starting delivery 46759: msg 2501 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] 921710651.378220 delivery 46759: deferral: CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3)/ Is this something I should fix/can fix? or is this something aol has broken? Thank

Re: aol.com bounces... our problem or their problem?

1999-04-19 Thread Sam
David A Galbraith CIRT writes: > > > I'm getting a bunch of these in the logs... > > 921710651.349026 starting delivery 46759: msg 2501 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 921710651.378220 delivery 46759: deferral: CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3)/ > > Is this something I should fix/can fi

Re: Bad domain is not bounced back immediately?

1999-04-19 Thread Sam
Chris Johnson writes: > On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 12:08:23PM -0300, Eric Dahnke wrote: > > Hello List, > > > > With other mailers upon sending a message with a bad domain, the sender > > receives a rather quick return message saying that the mailer was unable > > to deliver the message, but will c

Re: aol.com bounces... our problem or their problem?

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:35:29AM -0600, David A Galbraith CIRT wrote: > > > I'm getting a bunch of these in the logs... > > 921710651.349026 starting delivery 46759: msg 2501 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 921710651.378220 delivery 46759: deferral: CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3)/ >

Re: Bad domain is not bounced back immediately?

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 03:58:58PM +, Sam wrote: > Chris Johnson writes: > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 12:08:23PM -0300, Eric Dahnke wrote: > > > Hello List, > > > > > > With other mailers upon sending a message with a bad domain, the sender > > > receives a rather quick return message sayin

Qmail and tcpserver bootup script

1999-04-19 Thread Jeff Lush
Hello all, I am a bit of a newbie to Unix and installed qmail for the first time this weekend on FreeBSD 3.1. Installation and configuration was really very straight forward. In no time I had setup selective relaying for my LAN and pop3 with checkpassword (kudos to everyone with documentation on

Qmail and tcpserver bootup script

1999-04-19 Thread Jeff Lush
Hello all, I am a bit of a newbie to Unix and installed qmail for the first time this weekend on FreeBSD 3.1. Installation and configuration was really very straight forward. In no time I had setup selective relaying for my LAN and pop3 with checkpassword (kudos to everyone with documentation on

Re: Qmail and tcpserver bootup script

1999-04-19 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Jeff Lush wrote: > Hello all, > > I am a bit of a newbie to Unix and installed qmail for the first time this > weekend on FreeBSD 3.1. Installation and configuration was really very > straight forward. In no time I had setup selective relaying for my LAN and > pop3 with chec

RE: Qmail and tcpserver bootup script

1999-04-19 Thread Soffen, Matthew
Ok.. 1) The best place to add "user" scripts is in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ directory. You make a little /usr/local/etc/rc.d/qmail.sh file to run that command. (this will save it from upgrade to upgrade). The files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ are run after /etc/rc.* are done but before you log in

RE: Qmail and tcpserver bootup script

1999-04-19 Thread Joe Garcia
Type "whereis tcpserver" and use the full pathname to tcpserver that it gives you. problem fixed Joe > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Lush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 11:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Qmail and tcpserver bootup script > > > Hello

Help: Avoiding qmail-smtp do a DNS-Lookup

1999-04-19 Thread Joerg Toellner
Hello all, im running a linux computer as an email relay and gateway from our LAN to our ISP with qmail as our mta. I didnt set up or use an own DNS-Server. Instead we use the /etc/hosts file. All our clients are in this file of course and etc/resolve.conf says: hosts bind. All works fine until

Bad domain is not bounced back immediately?

1999-04-19 Thread Eric Dahnke
Hello List, With other mailers upon sending a message with a bad domain, the sender receives a rather quick return message saying that the mailer was unable to deliver the message, but will continue trying for a predetermined number of attempts/time. Qmail does this, but does not kick a message

Re: Bad domain is not bounced back immediately?

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 12:08:23PM -0300, Eric Dahnke wrote: > Hello List, > > With other mailers upon sending a message with a bad domain, the sender > receives a rather quick return message saying that the mailer was unable > to deliver the message, but will continue trying for a predetermined

qmail-local error

1999-04-19 Thread ivan
hi, I get this error in /var/log/qmail : ... delivery 1 : deferral : Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._ (#4.2.1)/ I have in passwd file, home directory : /var/log/qmail/maildirs/digicom-bg/xxx Also in users/assign (it is compiled in cdb) =xxx:xxx:82:80:/var/qmail/maildirs/digicom-bg/xxx::: ..

Re: qmail anti-SPAM relaying support ???

1999-04-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 03:00:01PM +, Erwann CORVELLEC wrote: > I have a local network (PC Win9x) and a qmail server (Linux) both connected > to the Net. I want to allow only the local network to use the qmail SMTP > server to relay mail. This to avoid spam relaying... > So I read the "Select

Re: qmail anti-SPAM relaying support ???

1999-04-19 Thread Keith Burdis
On Mon 1999-04-19 (15:00), Erwann CORVELLEC wrote: > I have a local network (PC Win9x) and a qmail server (Linux) both connected to the >Net. > I want to allow only the local network to use the qmail SMTP server to relay mail. >This to avoid spam relaying... > So I read the "Selective relaying w

qmail anti-SPAM relaying support ???

1999-04-19 Thread Erwann CORVELLEC
I have a local network (PC Win9x) and a qmail server (Linux) both connected to the Net. I want to allow only the local network to use the qmail SMTP server to relay mail. This to avoid spam relaying... So I read the "Selective relaying with tcpserver and qmail-smtpd" documentation but I don't wa

Re: qmqpc reliability

1999-04-19 Thread Bruce Guenter
On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 04:04:35PM -0700, Mark Delany wrote: > >> It's not relevant to your setup. There is some question as to whether a > >> local queue is more reliable than a remote queue accessible via qmqpc. > >Can you give an example of when it might be relevant? > Mainly command-line based

Re: MICROSOFT'S HOTMAIL USES QMAIL!!!!

1999-04-19 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 11:30:57AM -0300, Juan Carlos Castro y Castro wrote: > I already knew (as everybody) that MS couldn't put NT to work properly > and uses Solaris to run HotMail. But this is new. Or not. Forgive me if > this is old news. We'll forgive you. Greetz, Peter -- | 'He broke my

Re: Another q about open relaying

1999-04-19 Thread olli
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Chris Johnson wrote: > > But if I've domain in rcpthosts this domain is able to relay via my > > host.Thus I think that rcpthosts should contain only hostname & aliases > > for it. Am I wrong? > You're wrong. rcpthosts has nothing at all to with who can relay. It is a list > o

Re: MICROSOFT'S HOTMAIL USES QMAIL!!!!

1999-04-19 Thread John Conover
Peter van Dijk writes: > On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 11:30:57AM -0300, Juan Carlos Castro y Castro wrote: > > I already knew (as everybody) that MS couldn't put NT to work properly > > and uses Solaris to run HotMail. But this is new. Or not. Forgive me if > > this is old news. > > We'll forgive you.