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LinuxPTP and Khronos. Please visit https://nwtime.org to learn more about us
and discover how you can offer your support to our extremely important
mission. We appreciate your participation in our community, and your
patience as we make improvements to that community.
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Should be fixed now.
Thanks
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On 5/26/2022 23:16, Opty wrote:
Hello,
web interface at lists.ntp.org (both http and https) returns:
-- 8>< -
503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this r
Apologies for the delay in responding; I'm fixing this problem now.
Thanks
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On 5/26/2022 23:16, Opty wrote:
Hello,
web interface at lists.ntp.org (both http and https) returns:
-- 8>< -
503 Service
https://lists.ntp.org works now, and is recommended.
On 4/27/2022 0:06, Steve “Hollywood” Sobol - NTF wrote:
Http for now. https won’t work until I can gener a Let’s Encrypt
certificate, which I can’t atm. I need to figure out why I can’t.
On Apr 26, 2022, at 23:45, Marco Marongiu wrote
egards,
Opty
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Thanks Steve. My browser was forcing me to HTTPS for some reason. I can see a
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> On Apr 26, 2022, at 23:45, Marco Marongiu wrote:
>
>
> This is what I got:
>
>
>
>> Il giorno mer 27 apr 2022 alle ore 00:30 St
To all who have asked about these headers:
They should be included in all list messages, going forward.
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On 4/26/2022 1:10, Opty wrote:
Now that the mailing list seems to work again: Still restricted. :-)
Opty,
Let me work on this...
I'll be your point of contact. I'll report back here as soon as I have
an u
feature hasn't; before moving the subscriber list to mlmmj, I
tested it, and I know it works.
I did just unsubscribe a few email addresses from which I was seeing
"this message is undeliverable" auto-replies that should have been
bounces. Those addresses were on the main list,
the executive
summary is: the new MLM software doesn't add it by default, but it's
easy enough to configure the software to add it, and I'll do that ASAP.
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Now that the mailing list seems to work again: Still restricted. :-)
Opty,
Let me work on this...
I'll be your point of contact. I'll report back here as soon as I have
an update.
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ems to be at least 5 folks who managed to
> register a ticket system to the ML, including scoresmatter.co.uk,
> thefork.com.au, usconcealedonline.com, vtext.com and, somehow,
> supp...@twitter.com. Can the admins please remove registrations from
> those folks?
Ma
provided are not on the NTF Blacklist. Can you provide any
more details, and perhaps I can help point you in the right direction?
Warm regards,
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> Beh
There is this now too.
https://swling.com/blog/2018/08/nist-fy2019-budget-includes-request-to-shutd
own-wwv-and-wwvh/
What did you end up doing Maria?
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Pretty cool clocks I must say. I want one :). Please feel free to reach out
with any questions or concerns you might have.
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We Need Your Sup
On 09/03/2014 02:29 AM, mike cook wrote:
Le 22 août 2014 à 20:09, Steve Clark a écrit :
Hello,
We are running the above release. It works great until the interface for the
default route is
brought down and then back up. Then after a half hour or so it ntpstat starts
returning
synchronised
Hello,
We are running the above release. It works great until the interface for the
default route is
brought down and then back up. Then after a half hour or so it ntpstat starts
returning
synchronised to unspecified at stratum 4
time correct to within 1149 ms
polling server every 64 s
ations you need).
In the base of the unpacked source tree (ntp-dev-...):
debuild -us -uc
cd ../
Then install the local deb with:
> dpkg -i ntp-dev_4.2.7p447_amd64.deb
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> not applied.
>
> As the ntp and ntp-dev packages cannot be installed together
> anyway, IMHO it is better to just name the service ntp and the file
> /etc/default/ntp.
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ntp-dev automatically does the right thing WRT to default paths for most
major OSes or "distributions".
> or not (e.g. because they fix bugs that are already fixed in the
> development version).
Since there is usually a considerable amount of churn in the code base
betw
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will ignore each other
when they have the same sys_peer (i.e. when they are "synchronised" to
the same source).
And the Mitigation Rules do not provide special Peer Classification for
Symmetric Active/Passive Mode.
http://doc.ntp.org/4.2.6p5/prefer.html#peer
or http://doc.ntp.org/dev/pr
time back on track.
500PPM per day is 43 seconds per day. One could argue that a clock which
requires more than 43 seconds per day of correction is fundamentally
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file for changes.
ntpd does not, AFAIK, reparse the configuration file in response to any
signals (e.g. SIGHUP).
Please contibute a patch with your changes to our BTS at http://bugs.ntp.org
> [---=| TOFU protection by t-prot: 31 lines snipped |=---]
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even 19200 bps can help by
>allowing more characters (data) to be transmitted between each 1PPS
>output.
4800bps (8N1) transfers 480 bytes (8-bit characters) per second.
NMEA 0183 sentences are limited to 79 characters. So a single NMEA
sentence is fits easily into the 480cps limit.
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um-1 so
> they have maximum diversity of upstream sources.
Use of the prefer keyword will prevent the S2s from following the best
S1 "truechimer" and push that decision down to the client level.
BTW the effects of the prefer keyword are dowumented at:
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/
re.
> The IP is gone.
The refid is a 32-bit value used for loop detection. Only under IPv4
does the refid _happen_ to be an actual IP address.
See slrnljo35n.4v1.koste...@stasis.kostecke.net for more detail.
> I consider this a bug.
Then feel free to add your voice to http://bugs.ntp.org/278
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ee http://bugs.ntp.org/278#c7 for
a possible rationale).
References:
http://bugs.ntp.org/278 (reported 2004-02-03)
http://bugs.ntp.org/505
http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions/2005-December/008271.html
http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/ntpwg/2005-June/86.html
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5
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ap_get_bound.3.gz
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/usr/share/man/man3/cap_siz
r/sbin/ntpd: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26,
BuildID[sha1]=0x9213f4f18406f5130455f8a8412feac1dedd344e, stripped
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Installer for NTP, please send your mail to ntp-supp...@meinberg.de."
The NTP Distribution HTML documentation is archived at
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0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 nomodify notrap
You're not allowing your ntpd to talk to any remote time servers.
Please refer to http://support.ntp.org/Support/AccessRestrictions and
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On 2014-02-21, ardi wrote:
> I have defined symmetric keys on 2 ntp servers.
> How can I test whether controlkey is working?
> Is it used for ntpq?
http://doc.ntp.org/4.2.6p5/authopt.html explains Symmetric Key
Cryptography; and the controlkey, requestkey and trustedkey commands.
xy server).
The HTTP Time Protocol (see
http://www.vervest.org/fiki/bin/view/HTP/WebHome) is an HTTP equivalent
of ntpdate.
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On 2014-02-08, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Steve Kostecke wrote:
>
>> On 2014-02-08, Harlan Stenn wrote:
>>
>>>> What OS?
>>
>> See my analysis in slrnlfaa3b.nh4.koste...@stasis.kostecke.net
>
> Surely the OP should be telling us this,
On 2014-02-08, Harlan Stenn wrote:
>> What OS?
See my analysis in slrnlfaa3b.nh4.koste...@stasis.kostecke.net
> ... and are you cross-compiling?
See the OP's build command-line in
ca8a8da9-9082-436a-ad61-8ce62e147...@googlegroups.com
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er to maintain. If you do find
some management via ntpdc is needed, you can use "enable mode7" in the
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I'm not sure why you continually differentiate between "ntp-server" and
"ntp-client" because ntpd is both. The only difference in operation
between the two is that in one case the ntpd is answering polls from
other ntpds (or ntpdate, or sntp).
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it
is necessary to change the client key at relatively frequent intervals."
"The MV scheme is intended for the most challenging scenarios where it
is neccesary to protect against both server and client masquerade."
More at the above URLs and:
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/database/r
http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html
>
> Vendors should be careful with the pool command.
I use the ntp-dev pool command here and see 8 remote time servers in my
peers billboard.
If this is considered to be too many then we should fix ntpd rather than
depreccating a useful configration opt
On 2014-01-16, David Lord wrote:
> Steve Kostecke wrote:
>
> [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 25 lines snipped |=---]
>>
[snip: sample defaults]
> I have "restrict -4 limited kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery"
>
> I've not checked most recent docs
condary use case. But the
defaults listed above would also enable that usage.
> This notion of good behavior under minimal config seems
> really obvious to me, yet there is a huge resistance to it, with the
> notion that every end user should inve
On 2014-01-15, Rob wrote:
> Steve Kostecke wrote:
>
>> The same could be said about the NTP Reference Implementation
>> Developers; they're busy, too.
>
> The difference is that while there is only one developers team, there
> are many distributors that each hav
arious ntpd use cases (e.g. server, leaf-node pool client, etc.) is
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On 2014-01-15, Rob wrote:
> William Unruh wrote:
>
>> On 2014-01-15, Steve Kostecke wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-01-15, David Woolley wrote:
>>>
>>>> CERT have just issued an alert about the monlist attack:
>>>><https://www.us-cert.gov/n
ict.
Upgrade _or_ use noquery _or_ disable monitor
Information at http://support.ntp.org/security
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> versions on the NTP support site where it can be easily found, and
> link to it here? Future discussions could then be truncated by
> providing that link.
I've attempted to intiate some discussion about this in another
forum and am still waiting for replies.
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In this thread I found:
User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2)
User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (Linux)
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On 2014-01-03, David Taylor wrote:
> On 03/01/2014 10:36, Ralph Aichinger wrote:
>> Steve Kostecke wrote:
>>> In my experience the NMEA driver displays the '*' talley-code even when
>>> PPS is in use.
>>
>> Mine does not:
>>
>>
On 2013-12-29, Adrian P wrote:
> On 30 December 2013 00:13, Steve Kostecke wrote:
>
>> In my experience the NMEA driver displays the '*' talley-code even
>> when PPS is in use.
>
> Are you sure of that?
The was the case with the rather old version I ran on
ntpq ... -pn
[snip]
> remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
>=
> *127.127.20.0 .PPS. 0 l 15 16 377 0.000 14.437 23.063
> root@debian:~#
The offset and jitter shown above suggest to me that the
tream
> communication.
This is a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees.
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On 2013-12-28, Greg Troxel wrote:
> Steve Kostecke writes:
>
>> On 2013-12-27, detha wrote:
>>
>>> A first step would be to have a default configuration where any
>>> functionality that can be used for reflection attacks with more than a say
>>> 2
TP Reference Implementation has no default use case. So there is no
"baked-in" sensible default configuration. Some view this as a feature.
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f to establish
a bidirectional association between two ntpds (i.e. an assocation where
both nodes poll the other node for the time). 'nopeer' blocks these
associations.
By way of comparision ... The "server" configuration directive is used
to establish a unidirectional assoc
t restrictions.
The current NTP development release includes some anti spoofing
technology and does not require the use of 'noquery'.
BTW:
NTP Community Supported Documentation is located at
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FreeBSD 9 source.
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gt; double spaced).
>
> I use slrn as my news reader.
The raw (i.e. original) version of the message in question
(0416fa11-d631-42c3-82e1-8ddfb016d...@googlegroups.com) may be viewed at
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.protocols.time.ntp/iJcX9XlnuTQ/40OP-fgpAQIJ
It clearly shows t
n't wish to add those directories to your search path then use
a shell alias so that 'ntpq' is /usr/local/bin/ntpq. Set it in the same
places where you updated the PATH.
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shell searches for executables in the directories specified by your
PATH. /usr/local/bin needs to appear in your PATH before /usr/bin if you
want the "ports" versions of commands to override the "system" commands.
Or set up a shell alias.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/
ontains the configuration directive to disable authenticate
or
3. the non-trivial symmetric key configuration is correctly completed
_and_ the remote user possesses the correct authentication credentials
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used with a default restriction.
'restrict default ...' applies to all addresses/netblocks which don't
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Anyone who wishes to contact this poster might find the
ide of the OS package management system.
You may find the articles at
http://www.osnews.com/story/25556/Understanding_the_bin_sbin_usr_bin_usr_sbin_Split
and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3519952 illuminating.
All of the is, BTW, trivial to dig up with your favorite search engine
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> 204.109.63.243 .M-F.\.. 16 u 86 512 376 58.947 -201.11 138.426
The NTP Pool information page for this server is:
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An article from Charles made it to the Google Groups mirror of c.p.t.n:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.protocols.time.ntp/VLNotnd_nms/vBCbcxQkp3MJ
Looks like a problem with your free news ser
--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jul 18 07:48 available_clocksource
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Nov 9 14:28 current_clocksource
# cat available_clocksource
tsc hpet acpi_pm
# cat current_clocksource
tsc
# echo hpet > current_clocksource
# cat current_clocksource
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of action is to bite the bullet and determine
a sane tick value. In virtually all cases this will allow ntpd to
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>> OS-dependant, but for Windows I documented the method here:
>>
>>http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html#broken-clock
There is information about fixing this issue in the NTP Community
Supported Documentation at
https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/
On 2013-10-30, David Lord wrote:
> Steve Kostecke wrote:
>
>> ntpq prior to 4.2.7p22 does not support "mrulist" ...
>
> so 4.2.7p377 I've used since August is broken?
>
> or do I need to add some options to enable that command?
I'm not aware of an
0 . 4 4 1121 123 67.212.118.60
1023 10260 . 4 4 1112 123 74.120.8.2
You have new mail in /var/mail/me
me@home:/tmp$ ntpq -v
/usr/bin/ntpq: illegal option -- v
ntpq - standard NTP query program - Ver. 4.2.7p393
Usage: ntpq [ - [] | --[{=| }] ]... [ host ...]
Try 'n
s/ntp/html/ is
updated for the current development release series and may include
documentation about features not present in older production releases.
A snapshot of the Miscellaneous Options documentation as
shipped with the current stable release is archived at
http://doc.ntp.org/4.2.6p5/m
method, to
run ntpdate periodically. If you want your clock to be continuously
disciplined (i.e. adjusted towards the correct time) then you need to
run ntpd.
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On 2013-10-21, David Taylor wrote:
>http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.html#no-soldering
This information ought to be added to the NTP Community Supported
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this data
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A real world example of the risks of relying on a GUI.
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he freebsd distro has no idea
> what he is doing.
This is not a FreeBSD issue.
FreeNAS provide a GUI for handling the appliance configuration. The
underlying configuration files are automatically (re-)generated after an
edit and at boot time.
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hich
nominally operate at the same stratum (i.e. all your S2s or all your S1s).
These groups should not cross strata.
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On 2013-09-18, David Taylor wrote:
> On 18/09/2013 15:24, Steve Kostecke wrote:
>> On 2013-09-18, David Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/09/2013 14:27, Steve Kostecke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2013-09-18, Charles Elliott wrote:
>>>
>>> []
>
On 2013-09-18, David Taylor wrote:
> On 18/09/2013 14:27, Steve Kostecke wrote:
>
>> On 2013-09-18, Charles Elliott wrote:
>
> []
>
> Charles's post hasn't (yet) appeared on USENET. Perhaps the gateway is
> broken, or very, very slow?
https
; is _not_ considered abusive because it only multiplies the
initial poll when a time server becomes reachable.
'burst' _is_ considered abusive because it multiplies (i.e. causes a
burst at) each poll.
> and minpoll 4 (16 secs) maxpoll 5 (32 secs).
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cause, until one understands this saw tooth pattern
> it appears like no time2 adjustment works for any length of time,
> hence the attempt to sneak up on it.
I'm not sure where you're going with this attempt to calculate the
perfect time2 value.
roficient in such tasks.
We live in an age where information is ubibiquitous.
A motivated person should have no difficulty locating documentation
describing the process of compiling software as "raw" source code
or through their Operating System software/package management
infrastructu
h packages the current ntp-dev snapshot:
http://packages.ntp.org/debian/
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which marks the seconds
2. NMEA sentences which label the seconds
The PPS signal is emitted at the beginning of each second and is
non-preemptable.
The NMEA sentences are emitted when the GPS receiver is not busy with
other tasks and can occur at any time during the relevant second.
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ich displays the 11ms jump, is labled "stratum 1". It
is very likely the system offset.
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et has been steadily increasing.
>
> Any guidance to what this means appreciated.
It may be worth contracting the appliance manufacturer.
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il 4 data samples are collected.
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On 2013-08-15, unruh wrote:
> On 2013-08-15, Steve Kostecke wrote:
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>> The mitigation algorithm proceeds in three steps in turn.
>>
>> 1. If there are no survivors, the modem driver becomes the only
On 2013-08-15, unruh wrote:
> On 2013-08-14, Steve Kostecke wrote:
>
>> The time server specified in each of those lines is the one which is
>> currently selected as the "sys_peer".
>
> But as I understand it, it is simply one of the systems which is
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