Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-21 Thread davenva
Reading this thread makes me wonder if Logitech has a QA group and a formal software testing process. I make my living in software, and find much of the Squeezebox software process surprisingly loose and informal. No wonder the product is so bug-ridden! Time for Logitech to get some professiona

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-20 Thread Marc
Ok, I've been testing all day directly on my Radio, which has firmware version 7.4.1-r7915 installed. I tested with both the AlarmSnooze applet that was packaged with 7.4.1 and then afterward with the newest available AlarmSnooze applet which is packaged with Squeezeplay (I downloaded Squeezeplay

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-20 Thread bluegaspode
Marc;497275 Wrote: > It really is hard to imagine why it should be so difficult to fix the > alarm functionality (even if only in a temporary manner), using a local > fallback sound at the Radio itself. It does even have two fallback sounds. One you can find under /usr/share/jive/applets/AlarmSn

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-20 Thread Marc
It really is hard to imagine why it should be so difficult to fix the alarm functionality (even if only in a temporary manner), using a local fallback sound at the Radio itself. Even if the connectivity problems with MySB aren't resolved quickly (one presumes this will take more development resou

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-19 Thread ModelCitizen
sxr71;497124 Wrote: > It seems there is a major disconnect between product management and > marketing the software development team. Pretty close, but only half the story. MC -- ModelCitizen Think the third party Squeeze plugins and applets are important? Then 'vote for bug 14194' (http://bu

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-19 Thread sxr71
Who in their right mind would design an ALARM CLOCK that depends on an internet connection? Or a connection to any external resource other than power from the mains? Having the Duet, it's clear to me that the alarm function in SC and the SB system was an incidental feature at best. I think befor

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-18 Thread jef
This morning, I was again "lucky" to catch the Radio displaying the Backup Alarm image and the square (stop) icon along with the connected to wireless icon -- on pressing play, it indicates "Connection reset bu local host" to my server (by IP and port, in the URL that scrolls by), which was up and

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-17 Thread bluegaspode
0xdeadbeef;496336 Wrote: > This is more than a rumor. I just wanted to sound polite :) -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffa

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-16 Thread 0xdeadbeef
bluegaspode;496258 Wrote: > The alarm doesn't work reliable if the server it is connected to isn't > reliable. There are most certainly also issues with the software inside the Radio. If it is able to wake up at the correct time and connect to the correct stream, it should not freeze due to (sel

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-16 Thread bluegaspode
tcutting;495678 Wrote: > Although I have a local server which runs 24/7, I believe my issue is > also with mysb.com. I was using one of the "sound effects" as my alarm > sound, and would not get an alarm probably 2 out of 5 days. I tried to reproduce this (to update the bug report), but could n

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-16 Thread aubuti
eap;496220 Wrote: > Are you saying that alarms on this thing don't work if you choose as an > alarm something other than a local music file? > > I have a 24/7 PC running squeezebox server for my duet. I'm thinking > of this radio -- but I need the alarm to work great, as it will replace > my 15

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-16 Thread eap
tcutting;495678 Wrote: > I too have had problems with the Radio's alarm function. I am NOT in > the EU, but in Southern California, USA. > PLEASE, if you have this issue, vote for bug 14870: > https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 > At least this bug shows a target of 7.4.x, and is

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-16 Thread squeezyjim
tcutting;495678 Wrote: > > PLEASE, if you have this issue, vote for bug 14870: > https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 > Duly voted and commented. I agree with everything else in your post, it IS an alarm clock, it is advertised as such and many people buy it because of this. It

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-14 Thread tcutting
I too have had problems with the Radio's alarm function. I am NOT in the EU, but in Southern California, USA. PLEASE, if you have this issue, vote for bug 14870: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 At least this bug shows a target of 7.4.x, and is marked "major". Although I have a

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-11 Thread squeezyjim
Perhaps I should have been clearer - it is an intermittent problem FOR ME so it is hard to track. I also confirmed that the 'backup alarm' doesn't work reliably when required and would seem on the surface to be an easy one to fix, so it should be fixed asap. That's 4p now. Cheers Jim -- sque

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-10 Thread bluegaspode
squeezyjim;494397 Wrote: > However, it is intermittent, and IMHO don't think it has ANYTHING to do > with losing internet nor wireless connection, neither with the server > nor the internet, but with all intermittent bugs its a hard one to > track. I wouldn't consider the following scenarios (htt

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-10 Thread Tony T
squeezyjim;494397 Wrote: > > > However, it is intermittent, and IMHO don't think it has ANYTHING to do > with losing internet nor wireless connection, neither with the server > nor the internet, but with all intermittent bugs its a hard one to > track. > > Cheers > Jim I do not have a Squeeze

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-10 Thread squeezyjim
I have a permanent, fixed IP on a solid 10mbt connection and a pretty solid wireless network but I have also experienced this strange failed alarm issue. My machines have wireless uptimes counted in weeks and months not hours and minutes with constant IPs. It seems to work if you choose 'current

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-10 Thread bigmdime
The answer is to let buyers of OTHER slimdivices products know that they shipped this product which while great in concept is a TOTAL FAIL when it comes to performing its most basic function. How can there NOT be a backup alarm? Twitter, Facebook and other message board here come to mind. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-10 Thread DaveWr
I think an alarm clock radio that doesn't alarm with no internet connection is a pretty fundamental issue. Also this doesn't appear to be highly complex bug. What do QA test? Secondarily, that attitude of move to release 8 shows a fundamental lack of care for existing customers. They have boug

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-10 Thread bigmdime
tass;493692 Wrote: > A server connection is not required for the backup alarm. If the > connection to mysqueezebox.com, the stream or your local server fails, > it will play a built-in sound. > > I've had both my radio and boom play the backup sound without having > the server on. i have tried

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-10 Thread Tony T
0xdeadbeef;494187 Wrote: > also the difference to the "no alarm due to loss of internet > connection" issue that troubles the folks across the pond: For this > problem, there are at least bug reports existing and assigned. ...with a Target Milestone of 8.0.0 So maybe it'll be fixed in 2020.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-10 Thread 0xdeadbeef
aubuti;494062 Wrote: > This is just silly. As has been stated elsewhere, the devs are working > 100% on SB Touch until it is released, and work on all non-Touch bugs is > on hold. There's also the little matter that neither the devs nor the > execs are all yanks, and several work at corporate HQ

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread Mnyb
"why" possible exposure , for reasons uknown it appears for an outsider that the frankfurt mysbs.com server has more problems/downtime than the US one, thus provoking more "weird" behaviour for an Eu user ? even if everything else is the same ? I would for sure would not know my isp don't change

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread Michael Herger
>> IMHO this problem is still ignored by the developers since it's mainly a >> problem of the European customers. Why would it be so? > There's also the little matter that neither the devs nor the > execs are all yanks, and several work at corporate HQ in Switzerland Just to be precise: while we

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread Tony T
0xdeadbeef;494058 Wrote: > IMHO this problem is still ignored by the developers since it's mainly a > problem of the European customers. Then again, maybe someone should tell > them that there are 500 Million people living in the European Union, > while there are only around 300 Million in the US

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread aubuti
0xdeadbeef;494058 Wrote: > IMHO this problem is still ignored by the developers since it's mainly a > problem of the European customers. Then again, maybe someone should tell > them that there are 500 Million people living in the European Union, > while there are only around 300 Million in the US

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread 0xdeadbeef
It's worth mentioning that usually the alarm starts playing the correct station each morning. Which proves that the changed IP doesn't hinder the Radio from connecting to the stream. However the Radio's inability to keep connection to MYSB or to reconnect to MYSB leads to a number of severe functi

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread bluegaspode
pfarrell;494027 Wrote: > bluegaspode wrote: > > The radio is not reconnecting to MySB if your provider switches your > IP > > every night (very common in europe). > > A bit OT, but a lot of ISPs switch IP values frequently, even during a > session. The DHCP protocol has time limits for leases,

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread Pat Farrell
bluegaspode wrote: > The radio is not reconnecting to MySB if your provider switches your IP > every night (very common in europe). A bit OT, but a lot of ISPs switch IP values frequently, even during a session. The DHCP protocol has time limits for leases, and the client (in this case the Radio)

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread bluegaspode
Tony T;494003 Wrote: > I don't follow. My SB Radio does re-connect to mysqueezebox.com if > connection is lost. > > And wouldn't you agree that the back-up alarm should sound if the > internet connection is down when the alarm triggers? I'm afraid you don't know what happened on bugzilla (and

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread Tony T
0xdeadbeef;493999 Wrote: > Well, 8.0.0 doesn't sound very close if there's not even a release date > for 7.5.0. Besides, this bug report is not about the loss of MYSB > connection, but about the loss of internet connection. My main issue > with the Radio is the instability of the MYSB connection

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread 0xdeadbeef
Tony T;493988 Wrote: > Target Milestone: 8.0.0 > https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15201 Well, 8.0.0 doesn't sound very close if there's not even a release date for 7.5.0. Besides, this bug report is not about the loss of MYSB connection, but about the loss of internet connection.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread Tony T
0xdeadbeef;493805 Wrote: > All bug reports regarding this issues are either still "new" or were > marked as duplicates of unrelated issues and even these are obviously > not part of the 7.5 release. Target Milestone: 8.0.0 https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15201 -- Tony T --

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-09 Thread 0xdeadbeef
erland;493719 Wrote: > Well, the primary function of the Radio is NOT to act as an alarm clock, > this is just a secondary function which it can do in addition to playing > music. As discussed before, it clearly IS designed and advertised as internet radio clock. While it can be used as mono inte

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread bluegaspode
erland;493719 Wrote: > Well, the primary function of the Radio is NOT to act as an alarm clock, > this is just a secondary function which it can do in addition to playing > music. And thats why they spent a extra button to the alarm button and advertize it as a bedside-clock replacement. For man

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread jef
erland;493718 Wrote: > The source of the firmware (SqueezePlay) is available, so all you have > to do is to learn some lua and start patching the source and fixing the > bugs yourself. > > Yes, I know this wasn't really what you asked for. Actually, in a way, it is. Lua isn't bad and I can dust

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread Mnyb
Well returning might not bee such a bad idea if many customers did it. Purchasing power is power . So if one wants to shift logitechs focus from the Touch to fixing already released products thats one idea. Anyone got a better Idea, Is somebody here a billionare ? Maybe buy all logitech stock a

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread erland
0xdeadbeef;493653 Wrote: > > Logitech really screwed this up big time and they are either not > willing to fix this before they have a partly functioning software to > finally sell the Touch or they even refuse to notice the Radio's severe > problems. > > Anyway, obviously this blatant showstop

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread erland
jef;493629 Wrote: > > I have no problem ssh-ing into the thing if that lets me do something > to resolve the problems. Any plug-ins to fix these things? > The source of the firmware (SqueezePlay) is available, so all you have to do is to learn some lua and start patching the source and fixing

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread tass
jef;493629 Wrote: > > * Alarm -- fails if Internet connection not solid; backup requires > server > A server connection is not required for the backup alarm. If the connection to mysqueezebox.com, the stream or your local server fails, it will play a built-in sound. I've had both my radio and

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread aubuti
jef;493629 Wrote: > * Search -- How do I just get to "ZZ Top" without wheel-ing through > several thousand albums? option 1) turn the knob the other way and ZZ Top will be the first thing you hit option 2) put the Search menu item on your home menu so it's always easily available (Settings > Hom

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread 0xdeadbeef
The alarm even fails with a rock solid internet connection. The quirks of the European MYSB datacenter plus the dynamic IPs used in most European countries are more than enough to wipe away any semblance of reliability. Logitech really screwed this up big time and they are either not willing to f

[SlimDevices: Radio] Imminent Return -- How to Fix Alarms? Search? Tone Controls?

2009-12-08 Thread jef
Ok, I've had SlimDevices products running nicely at home for five or six years now. The Boom is silly expensive, as is the Radio at $200, but at $160, I thought it could fill some specific needs. It is failing. Here are the critical problems: * Alarm -- fails if Internet connection not solid; ba