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jdoering;527633 Wrote:
Hmm... I'm very glad to hear that the radio does in fact wake back up
for alarms if it powers down while on battery. But if I'm reading all
of this right - there is no apparent difference to the user between
completely down due to a long button press and down due to
jjzolx;524902 Wrote:
no power in the bathroom? That doesn't sound like much fun.
lmao
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iPhone;525288 Wrote:
I believe the behavior was designed to increase battery run time between
charges through full shut down after 20 minutes or so of inactivity.
So what is considered inactivity - no volume adjustments or other human
interface? That may limit my hammock time to 19 minutes
diannabill;547802 Wrote:
So what is considered inactivity - no volume adjustments or other human
interface? That may limit my hammock time to 19 minutes at a time.
It would also have to include audio playback.
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JJZolx;547803 Wrote:
It would also have to include audio playback.
Hope so - have a battery on order and anxious to go to the remote
reaches of my backyard with this thing.
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Hmm... I'm very glad to hear that the radio does in fact wake back up
for alarms if it powers down while on battery. But if I'm reading all of
this right - there is no apparent difference to the user between
completely down due to a long button press and down due to auto-off when
running from
notwired;526819 Wrote:
Fact #2; set an alarm on your radio, wait a little to make sure the
server gets the settings, power down the radio (I don't mean powered
down to the clock, I mean powered down to the good bye screen so the
display is blank). wait until the appointed time and check
Seems to me an odd distinction between powering down manually and
powering down automatically on battery power. You mean to tell me that
if I just pull the plug out of the wall and throw the Radio into my
luggage then the alarm may go off while my bags are going through
airport security? Oh,
JJZolx;527365 Wrote:
Seems to me an odd distinction between powering down manually and
powering down automatically on battery power. You mean to tell me that
if I just pull the plug out of the wall and throw the Radio into my
luggage then the alarm may go off while my bags are going through
Interesting point on the alarm. Since the Radio is pretty optimal as an
alarm clock and it can have a battery you'd think the battery should
also function as a reliable backup for power outages (backup alarm tone
of course).
If it powers down all of the way and can't do this - that would be
notwired;526819 Wrote:
Fact #2; set an alarm on your radio, wait a little to make sure the
server gets the settings, power down the radio (I don't mean powered
down to the clock, I mean powered down to the good bye screen so the
display is blank). wait until the appointed time and check
peterw;526837 Wrote:
Make sure you're using MySB or running SBS 7.4.2 and file a bug on that
-- it's supposed to wake up. How early are you shutting down Radio?
IIRC, it's supposed to wake up 20 minutes early (great for overnight
shutdowns) -- but bad if the code doesn't account for powering
peterw;526850 Wrote:
Actually it's supposed to wake up 3 minutes early, but it doesn't do
that if you manually power it down. I don't have a battery, so I can't
test the auto-shutdown scenario. Bug filed, patch submitted:
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15933
Maybe the logic is
JJZolx;526854 Wrote:
Maybe the logic is that if you've manually powered down then you don't
want the alarm to fire. Which makes some sense, otherwise you have to
pull the battery from the unit to keep it from waking you up.
Maybe, but I think if you don't want alarms to fire, then you
notwired;526862 Wrote:
I can't see how WOL would ever work over wireless.
It's just broadcasting UDP packets -- as long as the Squeezebox and
server are on the same subnet (as in 99% of home networks), why wouldn't
it work?
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peterw;526867 Wrote:
It's just broadcasting UDP packets -- as long as the Squeezebox and
server are on the same subnet (as in 99% of home networks), why wouldn't
it work?
WOL only works over wired network, won't work over wireless (true for
the current generation of WiFi devices). The
Actually it's supposed to wake up 3 minutes early, but it doesn't do
that if you manually power it down. I don't have a battery, so I can't
test the auto-shutdown scenario. Bug filed, patch submitted:
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15933
Peter, could you clarify:
- when the
Honva;526871 Wrote:
WOL only works over wired network, won't work over wireless (true for
the current generation of WiFi devices). The reason is obvious.
Wireless device need to be connected to the network to receive the
packets. When the wireless receiver is off, it is not connected to
Honva;526871 Wrote:
WOL only works over wired network, won't work over wireless (true for
the current generation of WiFi devices). The reason is obvious.
Wireless device need to be connected to the network to receive the
packets. When the wireless receiver is off, it is not connected to
I might be wrong, because I don't yet have a battery for mine, but I
feel like I read somewhere that even when it's completely off, there's
code that will turn on the radio for an alarm.
Am I totally off base?
What if you just set an alarm for when you expect to use it so it's on
when you get
I really think this should be configurable (like laptops). I see it
doing the same thing when I take it to the bathroom (I have plugs but
the point in a battery is so I don't have to drag the power cord
around).
What if I wanted to remotely start it? The hard power down to conserve
battery makes
Ask yourself this: Would the battery life of (totally guessing here)
6-10 hours be sufficient for this application if it did _not_ power
itself down completely? The big power drain here is the wifi and as
long as the Radio is in standby, the wifi would run and stay in contact
with the wireless
Thanks for the replies everyone. A couple of points:
1. I don't see why it can't just power down everything *but* the
wireless and still last for several days on battery. I've got other
wireless devices (with much smaller batteries) that in some cases last
for weeks in this state. Fair
twynne;524898 Wrote:
I bought it for use in a bathroom (which in the UK has no power
outlets). I plug it in elsewhere when it needs charging, but planned to
leave it in the bathroom unless charging. I was just surprised to find
that it behaves differently (ie. fully shutting down) when
As for the first point, I understand the reasoning - just wish there
were a bit solution to a full shutdown. My iPod Touch is similar (with
a MUCH smaller battery and a much larger screen) but only appears to
connect to the network when the screen is activated. The battery lasts
for weeks!
As
twynne;525296 Wrote:
As for the first point, I understand the reasoning - just wish there
were a bit solution to a full shutdown. My iPod Touch is similar (with
a MUCH smaller battery and a much larger screen) but only appears to
connect to the network when the screen is activated. The
Phil Leigh;525304 Wrote:
In the UK, shaver sockets must be double wound transformer insulated and
limited to ~20VA, with electronic overload cutout. (BS7671)
And there you have it. I knew someone would know! :-)
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Phil Leigh;525304 Wrote:
In the UK, shaver sockets must be double wound transformer insulated and
limited to ~20VA
That's plenty of current for Radio. You have to play Radio quite loud
to even approach half that level.
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twynne;524898 Wrote:
I bought it for use in a bathroom (which in the UK has no power
outlets). I plug it in elsewhere when it needs charging, but planned to
leave it in the bathroom unless charging. I was just surprised to find
that it behaves differently (ie. fully shutting down) when
I've recently installed the battery in my Radio, and unplugged it from
power for the first time this morning. Since then I've noticed after a
period of inactivity (not sure how long just yet) it is completely
powered off rather than 'sleeping'. In other words, it goes through the
full power-up
The Radio will power itself down after a period to conserve battery
power when only on battery. I would think pulling the plug with a
battery installed should either leave it on or in standby. Then later
it should turn itself off completely from standby. If not, it sounds
like a bug.
Why do
I bought it for use in a bathroom (which in the UK has no power
outlets). I plug it in elsewhere when it needs charging, but planned to
leave it in the bathroom unless charging. I was just surprised to find
that it behaves differently (ie. fully shutting down) when running on
battery. Given
twynne;524898 Wrote:
I bought it for use in a bathroom (which in the UK has no power
outlets).
No power in the bathroom? That doesn't sound like much fun.
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