Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-07-02 Thread marchse
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-05-15 Thread diannabill
JJZolx;547803 Wrote: > It would also have to include audio playback. Hope so - have a battery on order and anxious to go to the remote reaches of my backyard with this thing. -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://fo

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-05-15 Thread JJZolx
diannabill;547802 Wrote: > So what is considered inactivity - no volume adjustments or other human > interface? That may limit my hammock time to 19 minutes at a time. It would also have to include audio playback. -- JJZolx Jim ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-05-15 Thread diannabill
iPhone;525288 Wrote: > I believe the behavior was designed to increase battery run time between > charges through full shut down after 20 minutes or so of inactivity. So what is considered inactivity - no volume adjustments or other human interface? That may limit my hammock time to 19 minutes

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-05-15 Thread diannabill
jjzolx;524902 Wrote: > no power in the bathroom? That doesn't sound like much fun. lmao -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevic

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-05-15 Thread Tony T
jdoering;527633 Wrote: > Hmm... I'm very glad to hear that the radio does in fact wake back up > for alarms if it powers down while on battery. But if I'm reading all > of this right - there is no apparent difference to the user between > completely down due to a long button press and down due to

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-24 Thread jdoering
Hmm... I'm very glad to hear that the radio does in fact wake back up for alarms if it powers down while on battery. But if I'm reading all of this right - there is no apparent difference to the user between completely down due to a long button press and down due to auto-off when running from batt

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-22 Thread peterw
JJZolx;527365 Wrote: > Seems to me an odd distinction between powering down manually and > powering down automatically on battery power. You mean to tell me that > if I just pull the plug out of the wall and throw the Radio into my > luggage then the alarm may go off while my bags are going thro

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-22 Thread JJZolx
Seems to me an odd distinction between powering down manually and powering down automatically on battery power. You mean to tell me that if I just pull the plug out of the wall and throw the Radio into my luggage then the alarm may go off while my bags are going through airport security? Oh, joy

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-22 Thread peterw
notwired;526819 Wrote: > > Fact #2; set an alarm on your radio, wait a little to make sure the > server gets the settings, power down the radio (I don't mean powered > down to the clock, I mean powered down to the good bye screen so the > display is blank). wait until the appointed time and chec

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-22 Thread steve0564
In this context, can someone tell me how I can connect to mysbs from a sleeping sbradio without sending a wol to my server, when I was on sbs the day before? With a boom, it will work -- steve0564 LG Steve -- 2x SB Boom 2x SB3 Classic SB Rad

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread Mnyb
Honva;526871 Wrote: > WOL only works over wired network, won't work over wireless (true for > the current generation of WiFi devices). The reason is obvious. > Wireless device need to be connected to the network to receive the > packets. When the wireless receiver is off, it is not connected t

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread peterw
Honva;526871 Wrote: > WOL only works over wired network, won't work over wireless (true for > the current generation of WiFi devices). The reason is obvious. > Wireless device need to be connected to the network to receive the > packets. When the wireless receiver is off, it is not connected t

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread bluegaspode
> Actually it's supposed to wake up 3 minutes early, but it doesn't do > that if you manually power it down. I don't have a battery, so I can't > test the auto-shutdown scenario. Bug filed, patch submitted: > https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15933 Peter, could you clarify: - when the r

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread Honva
peterw;526867 Wrote: > It's just broadcasting UDP packets -- as long as the Squeezebox and > server are on the same subnet (as in 99% of home networks), why wouldn't > it work? WOL only works over wired network, won't work over wireless (true for the current generation of WiFi devices). The rea

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread peterw
notwired;526862 Wrote: > > I can't see how WOL would ever work over wireless. > It's just broadcasting UDP packets -- as long as the Squeezebox and server are on the same subnet (as in 99% of home networks), why wouldn't it work? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQui

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread notwired
I believe in this case, off is off. I don't think they ever intended it to fire an alarm of you powered off the radio. I can't see how WOL would ever work over wireless. Based on everything I've seen so far, I don't think they ever intended the radio to be used in this type of situation. If the

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread peterw
JJZolx;526854 Wrote: > Maybe the logic is that if you've manually powered down then you don't > want the alarm to fire. Which makes some sense, otherwise you have to > pull the battery from the unit to keep it from waking you up. Maybe, but I think if you don't want alarms to fire, then you sho

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread JJZolx
peterw;526850 Wrote: > Actually it's supposed to wake up 3 minutes early, but it doesn't do > that if you manually power it down. I don't have a battery, so I can't > test the auto-shutdown scenario. Bug filed, patch submitted: > https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15933 Maybe the logic

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread peterw
peterw;526837 Wrote: > Make sure you're using MySB or running SBS 7.4.2 and file a bug on that > -- it's supposed to wake up. How early are you shutting down Radio? > IIRC, it's supposed to wake up 20 minutes early Actually it's supposed to wake up 3 minutes early, but it doesn't do that if you

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread peterw
peterw;526837 Wrote: > Make sure you're using MySB or running SBS 7.4.2 and file a bug on that > -- it's supposed to wake up. How early are you shutting down Radio? > IIRC, it's supposed to wake up 20 minutes early (great for overnight > shutdowns) -- but bad if the code doesn't account for power

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread peterw
notwired;526819 Wrote: > > Fact #2; set an alarm on your radio, wait a little to make sure the > server gets the settings, power down the radio (I don't mean powered > down to the clock, I mean powered down to the good bye screen so the > display is blank). wait until the appointed time and chec

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread notwired
peterw;526685 Wrote: > Let's stop this speculation right now -- Radio does have this > capability. Like most electronic devices, Radio is never truly fully > powered off -- a tiny, very low power microcrontroller is always running > when there's power (battery or AC), even when the SqueezeOS and

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread peterw
jdoering;526655 Wrote: > > If it powers down all of the way and can't do this - that would be > another strike against the unit for not having obvious functionality. Let's stop this speculation right now -- Radio does have this capability. Like most electronic devices, Radio is never truly full

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-20 Thread jdoering
Interesting point on the alarm. Since the Radio is pretty optimal as an alarm clock and it can have a battery you'd think the battery should also function as a reliable backup for power outages (backup alarm tone of course). If it powers down all of the way and can't do this - that would be anoth

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-19 Thread FredFredrickson
I might be wrong, because I don't yet have a battery for mine, but I feel like I read somewhere that even when it's completely off, there's code that will turn on the radio for an alarm. Am I totally off base? What if you just set an alarm for when you expect to use it so it's on when you get th

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-15 Thread peterw
Phil Leigh;525304 Wrote: > In the UK, shaver sockets must be double wound transformer insulated and > limited to ~20VA That's plenty of current for Radio. You have to play Radio quite loud to even approach half that level. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http:

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-15 Thread twynne
Phil Leigh;525304 Wrote: > In the UK, shaver sockets must be double wound transformer insulated and > limited to ~20VA, with electronic overload cutout. (BS7671) And there you have it. I knew someone would know! :-) -- twynne 2 x Booms, 2 x SB3, 1 x Duet, 1 x SB Radio -

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
twynne;525296 Wrote: > As for the first point, I understand the reasoning - just wish there > were a bit solution to a full shutdown. My iPod Touch is similar (with > a MUCH smaller battery and a much larger screen) but only appears to > connect to the network when the screen is activated. The

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-15 Thread twynne
As for the first point, I understand the reasoning - just wish there were a bit solution to a full shutdown. My iPod Touch is similar (with a MUCH smaller battery and a much larger screen) but only appears to connect to the network when the screen is activated. The battery lasts for weeks! As f

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-15 Thread iPhone
twynne;524898 Wrote: > I bought it for use in a bathroom (which in the UK has no power > outlets). I plug it in elsewhere when it needs charging, but planned to > leave it in the bathroom unless charging. I was just surprised to find > that it behaves differently (ie. fully shutting down) when

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-15 Thread twynne
Thanks for the replies everyone. A couple of points: 1. I don't see why it can't just power down everything *but* the wireless and still last for several days on battery. I've got other wireless devices (with much smaller batteries) that in some cases last for weeks in this state. Fair enough

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-15 Thread JJZolx
Ask yourself this: Would the battery life of (totally guessing here) 6-10 hours be sufficient for this application if it did _not_ power itself down completely? The big power drain here is the wifi and as long as the Radio is in standby, the wifi would run and stay in contact with the wireless ne

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-14 Thread jdoering
I really think this should be configurable (like laptops). I see it doing the same thing when I take it to the bathroom (I have plugs but the point in a battery is so I don't have to drag the power cord around). What if I wanted to remotely start it? The hard power down to conserve battery makes

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
twynne;524898 Wrote: > I bought it for use in a bathroom (which in the UK has no power > outlets). I plug it in elsewhere when it needs charging, but planned to > leave it in the bathroom unless charging. I was just surprised to find > that it behaves differently (ie. fully shutting down) when

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-13 Thread JJZolx
twynne;524898 Wrote: > I bought it for use in a bathroom (which in the UK has no power > outlets). No power in the bathroom? That doesn't sound like much fun. +---+ |Filename: groundhog_day.jpg

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-13 Thread twynne
I bought it for use in a bathroom (which in the UK has no power outlets). I plug it in elsewhere when it needs charging, but planned to leave it in the bathroom unless charging. I was just surprised to find that it behaves differently (ie. fully shutting down) when running on battery. Given how

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-13 Thread JJZolx
The Radio will power itself down after a period to conserve battery power when only on battery. I would think pulling the plug with a battery installed should either leave it on or in standby. Then later it should turn itself off completely from standby. If not, it sounds like a bug. Why do yo

[SlimDevices: Radio] Radio - Full Power down when on battery?

2010-03-13 Thread twynne
I've recently installed the battery in my Radio, and unplugged it from power for the first time this morning. Since then I've noticed after a period of inactivity (not sure how long just yet) it is completely powered off rather than 'sleeping'. In other words, it goes through the full power-up s