Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.comwrote: I have a 58cm Atlantas and I ride 50mm Big Apples and fenders on it. I have about 3/4 of an inch of TCO. But its mostly from the fenders I think. I rode it with the fenders off and

Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - January 31st

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
We saw a lot of cat prints... none mountain lion-esque, but plenty of bobcat prints. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! That's big cat country. Looks like an epic for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread Angus
To set the stage, I'm happily stuck in a 7 speed / freewheel world, understand how freewheels work, do all my own bicycle maintenance etc... I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel

Re: [RBW] Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread Bruce
Are the cogs clean? I found that build up of chain grime can contribute to unwanted chain jump from gear to gear. From: Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel

[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread mark
My solution was to immerse the freewheel in some kind of cleaning solvent, agitate to float any dirt or impurities away, dry the freewheel out and wipe it down, then lube the pawls with Phil Wood oil. Lubing is done by dripping the oil into the gap between the outermost cog and the freewheel body.

RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe that's why the problem is called toe clip overlap.) I've never encountered it, but am now considering either a 58cm or 61cm Atlantis with big tires

[RBW] Re: A start

2010-02-01 Thread stevep33
Congrats on the Rambouillet! What a great design. My new-to-me orange Ram is fast becoming my favorite bike. Post some pictures of yours when it's done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - January 31st

2010-02-01 Thread Esteban
Wow, guys. That's a great photo-narrative of your adventure. I love the ones of Andy hopping over the fence, road closed, and the trailblazing. Just epic. I wish I was there! Rode with a couple of bobcats on Kitchen Creek on Mt. Laguna on Saturday while pre-riding the 80 for Haiti and then

[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread Tim McNamara
On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Angus wrote: To set the stage, I'm happily stuck in a 7 speed / freewheel world, understand how freewheels work, do all my own bicycle maintenance etc... I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel

[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread Garth
Angus, If the FW body itself skips from not engaging.. from my experience it's from grease inside becoming gunked up inside causing the pawls to miss engaging. I've had this happen with multiple Sachs FW's because of the grease they use from the factory. Suntour FW's always came oiled,

[RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - January 31st

2010-02-01 Thread Andy.M
Here's a few more pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/wwqandy/sets/72157623327572068/ What a day!! -Andy On Feb 1, 6:54 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, guys.  That's a great photo-narrative of your adventure.  I love the ones of Andy hopping over the fence, road closed, and the

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
Yeah, that name is a bit of an anachronism. Well, maybe not on this list... :-) I think I shall dub it Big Toe Overlap from this point forward! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely

RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender, correct? So no issue with TCO if not clipped in? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender, correct?  So no issue with TCO if not clipped in? It depends on a number of things: 1. how

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
SPD pedals, so I'm clipped in and if it crosses, could be less than a pleasant experience. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender,

[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread Chuck
I'll agree with Mark that you can probably stop the skipping and extend the life of of the freewheel with some solvent, followed by some lubrication. I've done this with both freewheels and freehubs with varying degrees of success. Seriously though...If this freewheel has indeed provided

[RBW] Re: Cleaning a Winter Drivetrain

2010-02-01 Thread geezer
Hi Mark, You don't mention whether they salt in your area or not. I live in northern Michigan where they salt with a vengeance. I can't ride anything nice in the winter here because of the salt. Even when things clear up a bit, any puddles on the road are corrosive. Kiss bare aluminum

[RBW] Re: 80 For Haiti on February 13: Preview Slideshow

2010-02-01 Thread Esteban
Dustin and I rode most of the route on Saturday (and then some), and I must say, this is CERTAINLY worth doing for all the right reasons - the ride is beautiful. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jan 31, 4:30 pm, Matt Critchlow matt.critch...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the slideshow Chris! Looking

Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - January 31st

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
Between that snow and our back-country pics, folks are going to think this was up in the Sierras! Interesting fact for those out of state: other than huge population near the coast and along some freeway corridors, SoCal is VERY wide open and wild. Can't say enough how insanely crazy this ride

[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm atlantis frameset

2010-02-01 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
Our Green 56cm Hillborne Shop bike is for sale: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ It is a demo bike, which means customers swing their leg over and take it for a spin ... it has probably been ridden less than 10 total miles. We could sell it as a frame + fork, complete

RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Frederick, Steve
I caught m toe on the Ramboiullet fender pretty hard a while back--kicked the SKS stays out of their eyelet quick release dealie. Startled me but no harm done. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread PATRICK MOORE
FWIW, I found that adding (Velo Orange, 35 mm aluminum) fenders to my Motobecane actually helped with TCO, for, though they increased the TCO, obviously, they also provided a smooth, curved surface to deflect the offending toe clip (now, the offending toe, since I've switched back, fickle as I am,

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread CycloFiend
on 2/1/10 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J at thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe that's why the problem is called toe clip overlap.) Just for

[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Mark
If I am understanding your problem, just add knee savers..I put them om every bike I have ever had...why sell an Atlantis? http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pedalspacers.asp Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread CycloFiend
on 2/1/10 2:51 AM, Angus at angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel that has probably given reliable service for decades. I had this happen to

[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread JoelMatthews
The latter usually means body onto frame in one manner or the other. Slightly OT. I recently came across a rather beautiful and incredibly light Campy 6 speed freewheel. I want to use it on a set of wheels I am building for my forthcoming 650b road bike. I recently decided not to go with a

[RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
A combination of pushing my bike up hill yesterday and the new 12-36 cassette in the latest Reader has me thinking... Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? My current 8 speed cassette is a 12-32 XTR (on a spider), and I'd love

Re: [RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread rswat...@me.com
David, I did just that recently. Took apart a 9s cassette and made an 8s out of it using spacers from an old 8s casssette. I used the lock ring and outermost 12t cog from the 8s cassette too since the outer cog on the 9 was 11t. It works just fine. Ryan On Feb 1, 2010, at 13:59,

Re: [RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
You can't just leave off the smallest sprocket. You need a first position sprocket, i.e., a sprocket with a spacer built in; removing it and leaving the 2nd position sprocket hanging in the wind won't do it. The way you make a Century Special 13-30 is to start with a 12-27. Remove the 12 and the

[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride

2010-02-01 Thread Brad Gantt
Okay, here's one option for an epic day in the hills. I have ridden all of this many times before but never all in one go. I'm going to try this in a couple of weeks, weather permitting. http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/los%20angeles/858126505202170833 -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread Michael_S
Harris Cyclery sells a custom blend 13-34 8 speed cassette for $60. another thought would be the small chainring ... are you running a 24 or 26? You can buy a 22T ring for most triples. Gearing is the bane of knobbied 700c wheels as most aren't used to rock crawl. 29er's have been clamoring for

Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:18 -0800, Michael_S wrote: Harris Cyclery sells a custom blend 13-34 8 speed cassette for $60. another thought would be the small chainring ... are you running a 24 or 26? You can buy a 22T ring for most triples. Depends on the bolt circle. 24T is the smallest for a

Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread James Warren
24x34 is a really nice, really low low, even on a 700C dirt ride, but one of these days, I'll be putting on one of those new cassettes to get it to 24x36, especially on Atlantis. With this, I doubt I'll bother switching to the crank bolt circle that allows 22's. Actually, my MB-4 has a 110 BCD

[RBW] Mount Diablo Name Change?

2010-02-01 Thread Big Paulie
Saw an article in a local newspaper that Mount Diablo might have a name change to Mount Ronald Reagan... http://www.insidebayarea.com/columns/ci_14296818 This might spin off an entirely different vein of Rivendell bike names, wouldn't you think? :) -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread RonaTD
Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? I highly recommend Sheldon's oeuvre on the topic, http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html In particular, go to the table halfway down, which lists the cog and spacer thicknesses for everything

Re: [RBW] Mount Diablo Name Change?

2010-02-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Saw an article in a local newspaper that Mount Diablo might have a name change to Mount Ronald Reagan... http://www.insidebayarea.com/columns/ci_14296818 This might spin off an entirely different vein of Rivendell bike

[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride

2010-02-01 Thread Aaron Thomas
We did a ride like similar to this on a previous SoCal ride, but we cut through Topanga (or was it Temescal?) in order to avoid so much distance on PCH, which can be hairy with all the Mel Gibson-style daytime drunks. It would be great if we could figure out a way to tack on that kind of

Re: [RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
Ahh-ha, I think that was the missing part of my plan. I'm going to need a first position 13T. And new spacers of course. I didn't see them while looking at Harris' offerings. Did you see a linkety-link for them? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: You

Re: [RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
Cool, pretty much exactly what I want to do, but I'm going to need new spacers as I'm not taking apart an eight (unless I can find one lying around). On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:15 PM, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: David, I did just that recently. Took apart a 9s cassette and made an 8s

Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
I have a 24T front right now, down from the 26T stock. I could go w/ a 22 or even 20T as I have the small 56mm BCD available. Big jump from the 36T middle though. I drop the chain enough as it is, and worry it would be 100% with that combo... On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:48 PM, James Warren

[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride

2010-02-01 Thread Brad Gantt
It would likely have been Topanga. I have done that variation as well. The ride down Rambla Pacifica and Las Flores from the top of Stunt is fantastic though. I don't like to spend too much time on PCH either. You could also hop onto the Topanga fireroad on the way down which adds quite a bit more

Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
Ted, do you see a link anywhere for the outermost lock cogs spacers? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? I highly recommend Sheldon's oeuvre on the

Re: [RBW] Mount Diablo Name Change?

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Saw an article in a local newspaper that Mount Diablo might have a name change to Mount Ronald Reagan...

Re: [RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
More trail = more happy times! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: It would likely have been Topanga. I have done that variation as well. The ride down Rambla Pacifica and Las Flores from the top of Stunt is fantastic though. I don't like to spend too much

Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
I found 'em: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#sprockets On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Ted, do you see a link anywhere for the outermost lock cogs spacers? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Can I put

Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
Would it behoove me to buy something like this to harvest the 13T out cog and the spacers? I could get it all for $20. That's the cost of the cog itself from Harris. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:26 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I found 'em:

Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
*http://tinyurl.com/ycxh559* On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:33 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Would it behoove me to buy something like this to harvest the 13T out cog and the spacers? I could get it all for $20. That's the cost of the cog itself from Harris. On Mon, Feb 1,

[RBW] Warm Showers website

2010-02-01 Thread Kip Otteson
I might be the last person in the community to know about this but the website warmshowers.org is really worth checking out. When I was a member of the BMW Motorcycle Owners Association they published a book every year that listed people that could help you out on the road with bike trouble, put

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm atlantis frameset

2010-02-01 Thread andrew hill
hi Bryan, thanks - this is almost exactly what i'm looking for.. and i'd probably just want the frameset.. but i'm hoping for a Sam in orange if i settle for a Sam instead of an Atlantis. of course, i may change my mind if i don't get a new/used Atlantis in process in the next week or two,

[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride

2010-02-01 Thread Esteban
More trail = more happy times! Around 60mm works nicely for most Riv folks. Really looks like a nice route. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 1, 6:06 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: More trail = more happy times! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Brad Gantt

Re: [RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
After yesterday, I'm thinking low trails are better than high trails. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: More trail = more happy times! Around 60mm works nicely for most Riv folks. Really looks like a nice route. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 1, 6:06

Re: [RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping

2010-02-01 Thread CycloFiend
on 2/1/10 12:50 PM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: The latter usually means body onto frame in one manner or the other. Slightly OT. I recently came across a rather beautiful and incredibly light Campy 6 speed freewheel. I want to use it on a set of wheels I am building for

Re: [RBW] WTB: 58cm Quickbeam

2010-02-01 Thread John Blish
Hi Fausto, I have a 58 Quickbeam that I am willing to sell. I would expect to get a nice price for this bike. If you want a bargain we don't need to pursue it but if you are looking for a great bike and one of the original (green) Quickbeams, take a look at some photos and get back to me.

Re: [RBW] WTB: 58cm Quickbeam

2010-02-01 Thread John Blish
Very sorry. That was not intended for the list. John On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:56 PM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Fausto, I have a 58 Quickbeam that I am willing to sell. I would expect to get a nice price for this bike. If you want a bargain we don't need to pursue it but if

[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Quickbeam

2010-02-01 Thread rcnute
Pretty pictures! Ryan On Feb 1, 9:57 pm, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Very sorry.  That was not intended for the list. John On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:56 PM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Fausto, I have a 58 Quickbeam that I am willing to sell.  I would expect to get a

[RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-01 Thread Grant Petersen
Seems to be a problem because it has a name/acronym. All it means is that at speeds less than about 6mph, if you turn the wheel enough and time it just wrong with your pedal stroke, your shoe hits the fender or tire. It's one of those things that sounds worse than it is. It cannot happen at faster