Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/10/11 2:05 PM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 13:53 -0700, William wrote: >> "Now try that one-handed." >> >> Why? So you can hold an espresso in the other hand? :) > > No, because that's normally how you remove and replace a wheel. One > hand holds th

Re: [RBW] FS: SON Dynamo Wheel, ENO SS kit, + Schwalbe Marathon Supremes.

2011-05-10 Thread Ken Mattina
Hi Matthew, I'll take two of the marathon supreme tires. I'm a local yokel so you don't have to ship. Let me know how you'd like to meet. Thanks Ken 503 244 8167 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM, mkrbec wrote: > Hello RBW group, > > In an effort to help pay for my new Hunqa build, I am clea

[RBW] to make 26" rim'd atlantis fast randonneur: suggestions?

2011-05-10 Thread canali
to make 26" rim'd atlantis fast randonneur: suggestions? (thinking of buying a lighter pair of wheels for those faster riding century/club days.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners

[RBW] Some of my Riv pics

2011-05-10 Thread Mark R.
New to this group, but on around and about on ibob and others, here are some pics folks here might enjoy. Since I took the pics of the blue Riv, the rear wheel (no eyelets) cracked at several spoke holes, so I found another set of wheels for it ( blue mavic reflexes on Dura Ace 7700 hubs). Green

Re: [RBW] Re: What shifter set up is this?

2011-05-10 Thread Sacha
It is a "Take Off" from Kelly: http://kellybike.com/2nd_xtra_takeoff.html On May 10, 2011, at 9:11 PM, scott wrote: > Cool. I didn't know you could still get em. Kinda an awesome friction > "brifter" alternative. I like that site claims that they are saving > bikes! > > On May 10, 9:03 pm, S

[RBW] Riv Rally East

2011-05-10 Thread Bill Yacovissi
You can find maps and info for rides the group took during the Riv Rally East on my web site at http://pinecreekbikerides.com. The group did the Wellsboro Loop on Saturday and the Straight Run Loop on Sunday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owne

[RBW] FS: SON Dynamo Wheel, ENO SS kit, + Schwalbe Marathon Supremes.

2011-05-10 Thread mkrbec
Hello RBW group, In an effort to help pay for my new Hunqa build, I am cleaning out my bike parts closet and hoping to raise a few bucks. I have listed these items on my local Portland, Oregon Craigslist, but thought that some of you might be interested as well. If so, please take a look... SON

Re: [RBW] Re: drivetrain

2011-05-10 Thread Sacha
Thanks you all for your inputs! I have decided to dump Dura Ace downtube shifters/ XT rear der combo. Decided to go along with my old Record front and rear derailleur (long cage) using Silver shifters from Rivendell and 8 speed wide XT cassette. On May 10, 2011, at 2:04 PM, William wrote:

[RBW] Re: WTB 52-58 cm Hillborne

2011-05-10 Thread scott
Buy a new Taiwan sam for $1000 and build it with friend's parts box stuff. Otherwise, if he or she is looking to tour for the first time, use whatever they have, throw a rear rack on it, a wald basket on the front, and go out and tour. Don't worry about what bike you have, cuz it doesn't matter unl

[RBW] FS: Musa pants (Beige/Olive, small)

2011-05-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
They're in 9 of 10 condition, maybe worn three times ever. It turns out I prefer to ride in tight, stretchy shorts. How about $30 shipped to the US of A? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to r

Re: [RBW] Bike commuting in Los Angeles

2011-05-10 Thread cyclotourist
LA east to west is very rideable, although I've only done it for pleasure. Commuters might say otherwise. Bicycle Fixation is a good site for some insider LA info: http://www.living-room.org/ It's proprietor, Richard Risemerg, is a wealth of knowledge. I hope you have an excellent stay, maybe w

Re: [RBW] Bike commuting in Los Angeles

2011-05-10 Thread andrew hill
Yup, totally rideable. It will be faster than driving, during rush hours too (especially in the afternoons). The exact route will take some care - you can take the "direct" route most of the time just fine, but a couple nice side-streets from that route will mean less traffic. Check out Romai

[RBW] WTB 52-58 cm Hillborne

2011-05-10 Thread Adam
Greetings, I am helping a friend to begin his career as a bicycle tourer and am curious if there are any Hillborne owners out there who have been looking to sell. He's in the Bay Area and has a budget that tops off around $1500. Cheers, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscri

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!

2011-05-10 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Great shots, Norm... Hope to see you at Bike Montclair on Sunday. BB On May 10, 5:59 pm, Norman wrote: > You guys are all so quick.  Here are some pictures I took at the 1st > annual Riv. Ride East in Wellsboro, PA.  What a great experience! > Having access to these beautiful trails and scenery

[RBW] Bike commuting in Los Angeles

2011-05-10 Thread Bridgestone
I just got a job that will move me from NYC to LA this Sunday. Could be temporary, could be permanent. I'll be staying in Beverly Hills with my mother-in-law. The gig is 15 miles away on Hollwood Blvd. and Cahuenga. Is that rideable without killing myself? -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: What shifter set up is this?

2011-05-10 Thread scott
Cool. I didn't know you could still get em. Kinda an awesome friction "brifter" alternative. I like that site claims that they are saving bikes! On May 10, 9:03 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 18:43 -0700, Ray wrote: > > I locked my Bleriot next to this bike at the hospital

Re: [RBW] What shifter set up is this?

2011-05-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 18:43 -0700, Ray wrote: > I locked my Bleriot next to this bike at the hospital this afternoon. > I am curious if anyone knows what shifter system this is. Have any of > you used this set up? Here's the link: > > http://web.me.com/shineme/Site/Shifters_.html#grid A Kelty Tak

Re: [RBW] Re: What shifter set up is this?

2011-05-10 Thread Ray Shine
Thanks, Scott. I found the link: http://kellybike.com/2nd_xtra_takeoff.html > >From: scott >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:53 PM >Subject: [RBW] Re: What shifter set up is this? > >Kelly Take-offs. My buddy Ron has a pair of them in his part

Re: [RBW] FS: 2006 Riv Rambouillet 54cm

2011-05-10 Thread Dan Abelson
> > > Very nice and my size. Fortunately for my finance, I can't justify a Rambouillet when I already have an AHH. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun

[RBW] Re: What shifter set up is this?

2011-05-10 Thread scott
Kelly Take-offs. My buddy Ron has a pair of them in his parts drawer. Rare I believe. On May 10, 8:43 pm, Ray wrote: > I locked my Bleriot next to this bike at the hospital this afternoon. > I am curious if anyone knows what shifter system this is. Have any of > you used this set up? Here's the li

[RBW] What shifter set up is this?

2011-05-10 Thread Ray
I locked my Bleriot next to this bike at the hospital this afternoon. I am curious if anyone knows what shifter system this is. Have any of you used this set up? Here's the link: http://web.me.com/shineme/Site/Shifters_.html#grid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 2006 Riv Rambouillet 54cm

2011-05-10 Thread Ken Mattina
Beauty. How did you squeeze 38mm marathon supremes in there? Ken On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:37 PM, andrew hill wrote: > nice bike. someone is going to be happy with that! > > andrew > > On May 10, 2011, at 6:30 PM, johnb wrote: > > > what an idiot.. $1500 + shipping > > > > On May 10, 9:28 pm,

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 2006 Riv Rambouillet 54cm

2011-05-10 Thread andrew hill
nice bike. someone is going to be happy with that! andrew On May 10, 2011, at 6:30 PM, johnb wrote: > what an idiot.. $1500 + shipping > > On May 10, 9:28 pm, johnb wrote: >> As I noted in previous posts, I have recently purchased an Atlantis. >> This is part of a goal to find a bike that hand

[RBW] Re: FS: 2006 Riv Rambouillet 54cm

2011-05-10 Thread johnb
what an idiot.. $1500 + shipping On May 10, 9:28 pm, johnb wrote: > As I noted in previous posts, I have recently purchased an Atlantis. > This is part of a goal to find a bike that handles my commutes and > touring well. Between my girlfriend and I we have seven bikes which is > more than I wish

[RBW] FS: 2006 Riv Rambouillet 54cm

2011-05-10 Thread johnb
As I noted in previous posts, I have recently purchased an Atlantis. This is part of a goal to find a bike that handles my commutes and touring well. Between my girlfriend and I we have seven bikes which is more than I wish to maintain. So I am thinning my part of the herd. Here is bike 1 2006 54c

[RBW] FS: Dromarti Sportivo Classic shoes size 41

2011-05-10 Thread johnb
I have tried to love these shoes but they have not loved me back... So $75/OBO + $10 to ship to CONUS and they are yours. I used them last season for about 15 rides total. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/72157626694012760/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!

2011-05-10 Thread cyclotourist
Gunnars are fantastic bikes, nothing to be modest about there!!! :-) A 29er Rockhound is on my short list of entries under the title "Next Bike". On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Rick P wrote: > > > it was cool to so many different Rivendells all together. And nobody > dissed my Gunnar either.

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!

2011-05-10 Thread Norman
You guys are all so quick. Here are some pictures I took at the 1st annual Riv. Ride East in Wellsboro, PA. What a great experience! Having access to these beautiful trails and scenery was a gift. Thanks to Bobby for organizing and all who came. http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/sets/721576266

[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread William
"Herculean efforts" was hyperbole. If you can't imagine hyperbole, then should I assume you really meant 'circus act with clowns' literally? Whoa. I use friction shifting, too. Is index "even easier"? Yeah, I guess (when it works), but friction shifting is tremendously easy, too. I prefer fri

[RBW] Do 700x50 Marathon XRs fit a Hillborne?

2011-05-10 Thread William
On kind of an impulse I bought 4 Marathon XR's on ebay. They are 700x50, which I'm assuming/hoping measure up to a true ~44mm or so on a ~22mm rim and fit on my Hillborne (without fenders is OK). Does anybody run 700x50 Marathon XRs on a Hillborne that can confirm? -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 14:41 -0700, William wrote: > I share your dislike for the lawyer lips. I prefer that my bikes not > have them, and none of my current bikes do have them. That said, > counting backwards in time, the last 5 bikes that I've owned that came > with lawyer lips left my possessio

[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread William
I share your dislike for the lawyer lips. I prefer that my bikes not have them, and none of my current bikes do have them. That said, counting backwards in time, the last 5 bikes that I've owned that came with lawyer lips left my possession with their lawyer lips intact. My point being that any

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 13:53 -0700, William wrote: > "Now try that one-handed." > > Why? So you can hold an espresso in the other hand? :) No, because that's normally how you remove and replace a wheel. One hand holds the frame, one hand inserts the wheel and then locks down the quick release.

[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread William
"Now try that one-handed." Why? So you can hold an espresso in the other hand? :) If by one handed you mean one hand on the handlebars for when you lift the front end of the bike off the front wheel, then the way I've done it (without really thinking about it) was to use my left calf on the nut

[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Allan in Portland
> GP seems like the last bike-related person in the world that should be > at the end of a "negligent" QR lawsuit... if that's what it really is > about. Correct, which means it's not about negligence. So what is it about? An ambulance chaser using emotional appeals to shakedown some deep pocket

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Group Pool

2011-05-10 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 10, 4:04 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > If you are anywhere near Wellsboro, I HIGHLY recommend it for a long > cycling weekend.  Here  http://www.pinecreekbikerides.com/ is a web > site that lists rides in the area.  We did two of them.   I grew up in central PA, near State College (Penn St

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double

2011-05-10 Thread Jeremy Till
I don't change the bike before a ride like that, but the Casseroll is my lightest bike to begin with. It's never had racks, has 28/32 spoke wheels with open pro rims, and the most it has in terms of bags is a banana bag and/or a small jandd bar tube-type bag. I've done the climb with or without fe

[RBW] One more time FS, then to eBay and Craiglist: Motobecane Grand Record and Nishiki Riviera framesets

2011-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
$150 for the 58 X 57 Motobecane with nice Stronglight hs, 9 cm SR stem and Phil Swiss cups. $200 for the 62 X 61 Nishiki with hs, bb, sp, cantis, stem and dt shifters, NO bar or levers. Both plus actual shipping. Photos here: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale# I will add Am willing

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Group Pool

2011-05-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 07:29 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 9, 5:16 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Looks like a great ride! Pennsylvania has some of the best riding > around - road, MTB, country biking .. . there's just great roads, not- > quite-roads, and trails all over the state. > > Ni

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:04 -0700, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/10/11 4:17 AM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > > > > Yes, but it turns a "quick release" lever into nothing more than an > > asymmetrical wing nut and turns "quick" into a cruel joke. > > I found that with lipped fork tips,

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double

2011-05-10 Thread Philip Williamson
I had a loud drivetrain with my stock Quickbeam, until I bought a new chain. Quieted right down. Same rings (32/40) and cog (15t D/A fixed). I think the chainstays are long enough that 5mm off shouldn't matter. I mount the cog shoulder out and lip in, to get more offset from the hub centerline; yo

[RBW] Re: drivetrain

2011-05-10 Thread William
On my tandem I have the 9-speed HG-61 12-36 cassette. That's the cassette that Riv calls the 'pancake' cassette. I use Dura-Ace 9- speed barcon shifters in index with an XT RD-M751 SGS rear derailer. That is normal pull. That setup works very well. I would expect 9- speed index Dura-Ace down tu

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread John Speare
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:59 PM, David T. wrote: > It’s too bad, reading the latest Knothole entry on the Rivendell > website, Grant appears to be stressed out, probably about that legal > case he refers to in RR 43. (It would be funny, considering that a > gaggle of lawyers are working feverishly,

Re: [RBW] 3 speed shifter on Albatross bar?

2011-05-10 Thread John Speare
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:33 PM, rcnute wrote: > Has anyone tried this?  Any tips?  Thanks! > > Ryan > I've tried it. No tips. It works. http://johndogfood.com/john/images/wb-w8.jpg -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you a

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/10/11 4:17 AM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > > Yes, but it turns a "quick release" lever into nothing more than an > asymmetrical wing nut and turns "quick" into a cruel joke. I found that with lipped fork tips, I just open the QR, count "half" turns of the lever, then remove

[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Marty
Reminds me of the days when beer cans and bottles had to be opened using a tool vs. a "quick-release" of some kind. Personally, I like using a nice heavy opener on a frosty bottle now and then. If the same tool can tighten a hub nut, or take off a pedal, or firm up a crank bolt - all the better. h

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
It's not the extra 10 seconds to remove and another 10 to replace, it's the hassle of having to re-adjust the QR. I'd rather use allen key skewers on non-lawyer-lipped forks than QRs on l-l forks. That's just me, but it *is* my preference. I hatem, annoying pissant things. Except: OTOH, with my di

Re: [RBW] drivetrain

2011-05-10 Thread Dan Abelson
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM, velobandit wrote: > Hi, > I am about to install Dura Ace down tube shifters and wonder which > rear derailleur works the best? Of course I plan to use pancake > cassette. I assume XT with normal pull? Also is 9 speed is feasible > with this specific set up? Than

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Rex Kerr
This is especially bad, IMO, when trying to put a bike on a fork mount roof rack, while keeping it balanced with one hand. On May 10, 2011 5:46 AM, "Scott G." wrote: > > > On May 9, 11:22 pm, Erik wrote: >> The wheel can still be removed without a wrench, >> which seems to be the major objective

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double

2011-05-10 Thread SteveF
Get a Surly fixed cog--they have a flange on one side and you can flip it to have that flange on the inside (toward the hub) and space the cog out a bit (right around the 5mm you need as I recall) It works great. I have a 16t Surly cog (flange turned in to optimize chainline to my outside chainri

[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well, maybe it's my peculiar personal preference. But I'd take a quick release over a wing nut any day. At this point, having used a quick- release often enough on my bike, I can feel when the appropriate tension is on the skewer before clamping so that I know that clamping at that time will be sat

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Technomic (±Deluxe), Nitto Noodle bars

2011-05-10 Thread Lee
Hi Brett. I think I have a 120mm Technomic at home. I bought it three years ago and have never used it. I'll check to make sure it's 25.4mm when I get home tonight and can e-mail you offline. Best, Lee SF, CA On May 9, 9:52 am, Brett Lindenbach wrote: > OK, I am planning to add cable connectors

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Group Pool

2011-05-10 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 9, 5:16 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: Looks like a great ride! Pennsylvania has some of the best riding around - road, MTB, country biking .. . there's just great roads, not- quite-roads, and trails all over the state. Nice pics. Makes me want to take a long weekend in the PA wilds. -- Y

[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Scott G.
On May 9, 11:22 pm, Erik wrote: >  The wheel can still be removed without a wrench, > which seems to be the major objective. But if you want tool less wheel removal, use a wing nut, simpler than a q/r with lips. You just tighten a wingnut, none the extra complication of tighten some, then move

[RBW] Re: 600K Brevet

2011-05-10 Thread MichaelH
Eric, you edited out all the pain! I kept waiting for the part where someone writhes on the ground with cramps in both thighs and hamstrings simultaneously. We'll all be pulling for you in Paris. If MBM ever happens again, I'll look forward to meeting you, even if I am neither capable nor desiro

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Bruce
Especially if you are in a hurry to get the dang front wheel on (as in late for a group ride) or off (as in gotta fix a flat and no one waits up for you) > >From: Steve Palincsar >To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:17 AM >Subje

Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

2011-05-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 20:22 -0700, Erik wrote: > > While I have filed many a fork tip (actually a disk grinder does the > job in a few seconds, but one needs to be especially careful), I > wouldn't go so far as to say that "lawyer lips" negate the function of > a quick release. The wheel can sti

Re: [RBW] 600K Brevet

2011-05-10 Thread Bruce
Very nice! > >From: Eric Norris >To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 8:17 PM >Subject: [RBW] 600K Brevet > > >Riding on lugged steel with friction shifting!  My video of this weekend's >brevet from San Francisco to Fort Bragg and bac

Re: [RBW] drivetrain

2011-05-10 Thread Bruce
I have the XT on one one bike and a Campy Veloce on another. I prefer the feel of the Campy. Both are very reliable. Both are 9 speed set ups. > >From: velobandit >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 12:47 PM >Subject: Re: [RBW] drivetrain > >Hi, >