How old is he? My four year old rides this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/8518339787/
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Yep I got one newesh and I'm ready to part with it. Contact me off list.
~Hugh
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Yeah always good to have one. I've been carrying a Kryptonite cable lock
but just got the Abus cable one Riv recommends. +1 what Doug said always
good to carry one, what's a little extra weight to help you sleep better
while camping. I also never leave my Hilsen for long even when locked as
Wow! I dig the idea of Purple; while on the SoCal VS. NorCal Rumble we
talked about paint colors and Evan and I agreed purple is a great color or
a deep cherry that looks almost black but when the sun hits it you see the
color.
Here are my black submissions:
This one is the bomb!
That's one bitching looking Trucker.
~Hugh
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He sent my samples back unharmed, so yeah I think your shirt will be fine!
Just send him an envelope with your return address on it. Also,
you'll probably talk to him on the phone in the meantime, so just let him
know your shirt is important to you.
Matt
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013
He will be 3 in Oct. He might be ready for a tag along next year. How
hard is it to move one of those between bikes? He lives 40 miles away and
his parents have limited stooge space. I wonder if my daughter and I could
share one?
My son, in El Cerrito, has a one year old daughter and he
Just wanted to add that another option is to use a Pantone color, Joe Bell
will let you do that too.So if you can find one that matches your shirt
could go that route.
Matt
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:09:01 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:52:27 PM UTC-5, Matt
Most tag a longs mount to the seat post, so they aren't too hard to take on
and off (the Burly Picolo has a dedicated rear rack). When I used a seat
post style, I just had a dedicated seatpost/saddle combo hooked all the
time to the trail a bike, so I just swapped posts to get going.
I put my
I've never met a mean guy in a bike shop. Mostly passionate people, some
jaded people who've heard it all before. This works for me and it should
work for you, too, is a natural attitude. I think the comfort aspect that
is so important to us, um, older guys really is lost in bike shops and
my sister and BIL have new bikes from REI. Her power is not falling off.
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:50:30 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
I've never met a mean guy in a bike shop. Mostly passionate people, some
jaded people who've heard it all before. This works for me and it should
work
All Cross-checks in all sizes come out of the box with 300 mm steerers. With a
62 cm frame, there is nothing to cut off because the head tube is long enough
to allow a stem and maybe an inch or two of spacers. The old Surly warranty
stipulated that stem plus spacers shouldn't exceed 100 mm, but
Buying a Surly using the Riv sizing guideline apples-to-apples is quite
likely to result in a bike that's on the too-big side.
I could see that if you aimed for a fistful of seatpost on a Karate-Monkey,
you'd end up with a bike that is too big.But it seems the Cross-check
and LHT have
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:00:42 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote:
Plus, it will be an asset if you decide to stealth camp around town.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
Oh dear! I'll need stealth green for camping near the river... but if I
get black, I can camp right in the middle of a black-top street! ;)
Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a
year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer
to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their
bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group
I love it, but until God decides to heal my bludgeoned brain could never
attend it save in spirit. Sounds like a blast though!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:40:24 AM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:
Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a
year),
But Deacon, you're one of the people I want to meet! We'll just have to
figure out another way.
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Colorado is a fine place to visit.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
But Deacon, you're one of the people I want to meet! We'll just have to
figure out another way.
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Jim, thanks for your most excellent info. To bike shops I'd say, leave the
steerer uncut, place stem in midrange area with spacers above and below, and
put up a sign saying the steerer will be cut/tailored to the buyer after
purchase. If you don't want to do that for the carbon boys, I
*Nitto M-12, mounted on the brake studs. Works great.*
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:21:29 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Clayton, how are the bottom stays of your front rack mounted?
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:11:54 PM UTC-6, clayton wrote:
Army Green. I too,
Likewise, Liesl. Brain injury gets in the way of a lot of good things,
though the gift in it is I get a lot of time for contemplation. The smaller
the event, the more likely I can attend. If you or others find yourselves
near Colorado Springs and want to see if a ride is possible, let me know.
I made it out of an army rucksack. I used an aluminum tube stiffener in a
sleeve along the top of the bag to avoid a zillion top tube straps. It
works great. A little ratty, but it's getting old. I think it will last as
long as I do.beausage...good in bags, maybe not so much in people...
54cm, it's cool, buy it so I don't!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/3967840421.html
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
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Nice!
Guess that makes 3 of us :)
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Hmmm. I also used to do motorcycle rallies, by brand. The biggest problem
was: holding it in the Eastern one-third of the country always attracted
the most people as the East generally is more densely populated, while
having it in the wide-open more sparsely populated West cut down on
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:38:58 AM UTC-7, Reid wrote:
Could Riv do a mapping of where they know their bikes live? Give some idea
of where the greatest concentrations of owners live? That would be only an
estimate, of course. It's hard to make a rally in
Someone created a Google map
Wow, Jim, thanks for this information.
I had never really thought about this since I always ride Surly's largest
sizes. I checked out the Surly site and noted that for the LHT, all sizes
of the 700c bikes have a 320 mm steer tube. I'm glad I didn't get a 64cm
LHT thinking I would get
A friend of mine recently purchased a Long Haul Trucker from his LBS in
Wisconsin after coming up and test riding both my LHT and my Ogre to decide
which one he wanted to get.
When the shop took delivery of the bike, my friend called me asking for my
advice as to what height he should have his
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:16:04 PM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
A friend of mine recently purchased a Long Haul Trucker from his LBS in
Wisconsin after coming up and test riding both my LHT and my Ogre to
decide which one he wanted to get.
When the shop took delivery of the
On a related note I just bought a new frameset that came with a 400mm
threadless steerer. He spec'd it super extra long to make it impossible
for anyone to want it any longer, especially considering his XL is not
that big, only a 60cm c-c. I cut about 90mm off mine (58 cm c-c
framesize), and
What constitutes a fistful, and why does such an arbitrary dimension lead
us around by the short hairs? Can't we go 2 cm either way and still have an
approximate fistful? I would say that in general, with Long Haul Truckers
and Cross-checks, go one size down from the Riv recommendation simply
Jim
+1 on your assessment for sizing Riv Atlantis and Surly LHT.
My 62cm LHT fits similarly to the way my 64cm Atlantis did. Going to a 64cm
LHT would also have me on a bike with a somewhat longer tt for the same bar
height. I've got a short torso for my height and the extra reach would be
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:12:22 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
What constitutes a fistful, and why does such an arbitrary dimension
lead us around by the short hairs? Can't we go 2 cm either way and still
have an approximate fistful? I would say that in general, with
I have those Ciussi Elite aluminun cages w the plastic buttons. I think I
want something more grown-up (restrained and tasteful).
I never really warmed to the $50.00+ Nitto cages... totally an exception,
not the rule for Nitto. If Nitto ever made a complete group ,I'd beg,borrow
or steal to
a fistful is a the right ballpark to begin, then you dial in everything.
Higher, lower, forward, back. It's amazing what a difference 1 or 2
degrees rotation can make on handlebar.
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:44:59 PM UTC-5, David Craig wrote:
Jim
+1 on your assessment for sizing Riv
Matt:
Also, Surly measures their Crosscheck and LHT frame sizes *exactly* the
same way Rivendell measures theirs: Center-to-top (i.e., top of TT).
My better half owns one of the early crosschecks which is sitting in our
living room, and this is how it's measured/sized.
From the Riv site:
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:21:24 PM UTC-4, David Craig wrote:
Matt:
Also, Surly measures their Crosscheck and LHT frame sizes *exactly* the
same way Rivendell measures theirs: Center-to-top (i.e., top of TT).
My better half owns one of the early crosschecks which is sitting in
This sounds like a great idea, and a chance to meet new people (or old
friends but in the flesh!) and see new country. Colorado in the
summer...excellent biking, hiking, all sorts of stuff to do. And
kinda-sorta in the center of the Lower 48. From experience, MN WI also
have good places to
Hello Bunch,
I am contemplating a few upgrades to my bike, and one of these is the
autumnhttp://www.gothamcargo.com/about-autumn/front basket/crate by Gotham
Cargo http://gothamcargo.com.
Here is a photo of my Riv
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/6320659498/in/set-72157626345789636(not
Well I would take the $90 with shipping , go to hardware store, get some
wood and metal straps for 10 bucks, some paint for 10 more, some leather
straps from the fine people at Rivendell for 10 more and you will have
something way cooler. I am just a DIY kinda person. You know what I cant
make
SMP,
The crates are gorgeous, but the rear attachment with flat stock to the
fork crown does not look up to the task. If you go this route, I'd suggest
picking up some of the Wald basket hardware that will attach the rear of
the crate to your bars for stability. It also looks (like the Wald) like
I have an old one if above deal doesn't work out and you are still
looking. Looks like gray metal. Not shiny.
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I'd love to try it. Of course, the time/distance/whatnot will keep some
from coming, but for whoever could do it, wow! You gonna set it up, List
rules apply? :)
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like
@Peter - thanks for the tips. I am not so handy, and I live in Zurich, the
most expensive city in the world ... so multiply all of those figures by
2.5 and you'll be back at almost 90, shipped ;)
@Joe - Thanks for the info. I think I have some Wald basket hardware lying
around, but I have
OMFG!! (as the kids like to say)
It's a tentacular hen's tooth! (as none of the kids say)
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:21:06 PM UTC-7, Mayfly wrote:
We are reluctantly selling our 50 cm Glorius, purchased new from and built
by Rivendell, ridden about 300 miles total. Periwinkle Blue.
Here
I'd already outfitted my bikes with V-O Moderniste, but the King cage is a
good deal.
Ryan, your bike is gorgeous - what is your saddle?
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:08:18 PM UTC-5, Ryan wrote:
I have those Ciussi Elite aluminun cages w the plastic buttons. I think I
want something more
Ah, even more expensive than NYC I hear. I would use the basket with a rack
if you don't like the whole declaeur look. You will still have to get
creative with attaching it though unless zip ties don't bother you. They do
make them in fun colors
On Jul 31, 2013 6:28 PM, SMP sume...@gmail.com
gotta agree with Matt on this one.. the diagram on Surly's site is pretty
clear.
and while I'm at it... Seems to me Grant ought to say more about top tube
length as part of the bike fit info. Especially with his sloping top tube
models. For me I look at that 1st and seat tube length
I have a shiny black Yves, with cream accents (not the head tube though),
and honey brooks (darkening) and metal fenders which is quite attractive,
and easy to touch up. The bike obviously doesn't look like the kind of
bike most people ride, but I think the black helps it blend in better.
Is this King cage a good fit for the standard or insulated Klean Kanteen?
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Bump! I'm back from my recently cycling trips and this baby is still
available!
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OK, I couldn't resist. I picked it up. It's actually too small for my 84
pbh but my 9 year old will have a great bike in another couple years.
-Donald-
Oakland, CA
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Thanks, Joe!
You can buy it directly from RBW, too (price reduced):
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-073.htm
Take care, guys!
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On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:34:50 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
54cm, it's cool, buy it so I don't!
Doug,
The tires are 26x1.6. I advocated for fatter tires to start with, but I
lost that one!
We'll be sure to post a review of the H-Bars after some longer rides.
Weather permitting, the bike is going fishing this weekend so we'll get a
chance to see how it handles the fire roads.
Do you
Wow! Looks like a great time was had by all. Will plan better on my half
for the next one ( so that I can attend).
Hugh, next time you are down south let me know and perhaps a ride will
develop.
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, hsmitham wrote:
Yeah always good to have one. I've been carrying a
Thanks, Ian. I'm pretty happy with it!
The brakes are Velo Orange Grand Cru Zestes. I had them on my Surly Cross
Check for a year or so and just picked up a pair of used Pauls so I moved
them to the Atlantis to save a few bucks, and I think they look better on
the A. I've been out on several
I've been swapping one mini-triangle between bikes, checking every shop I
go into for backstock, and never finding any. Today I emailed Jog-A-Lite
to see what it would take to get them to make them again. Then I emailed
Spencer at Riv and asked him what it would take to convince Riv to make
Point taken, Matt.
On the topic of tt's, I seem to recall reading in something from RBW that they
list only the effective tt on the geometry charts. Is that true? If so, does it
apply to the Atlantis as well as the bikes with more angle to the tt
(Hilborne).?
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Sorry, I missed the part about mounting to a front rack and understand
wanting to keep the clamps off the bars. That dropout is spectacular. Lip
free or die. Good luck!
Best,
joe broach
portland, or
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:28 PM, SMP sume...@gmail.com wrote:
@Peter - thanks for the tips. I
awesome! Thanks, Don!
--jenny @ RBW
ps, if it makes you feel any better, my PBH is 86.5 and I was riding the
heck out of that bike. I love that thing. I hope you guys enjoy it!
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:59:03 PM UTC-7, Donald Lee wrote:
OK, I couldn't resist. I picked it up. It's
Yes, yes they are! http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9131448186/
The naming of the cage is interesting. The company is King Cage, or
Andrews, and the cage is an Iris.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Donald Lee m...@donaldlee.net wrote:
Is this King cage a good fit for the standard or
SoCal Rivesters,
I was thinking of a S240 for Friday the 23rd at San Mateo Campground near
San Onofre State Beach. For those in the North we could meet at Doug P's
home and ride the 30 miles to the site. Those in the South could either
meet us at the Metro link station in Irvine and ride down
I'd love to Hugh, but I'm on a backpacking trip that week. How about we do
the Crystal Cove campground the next weekend. It's a primitive site so easy
to get reservations. I'm all recovered from my crash, finally.
~mike
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Hugh:
Count me in! Great spot. And yes, plenty of free parking in front of my
house. I'm a mile from the Tustin Metrolink station for those that want to
train down this far ride to San Mateo.
dougP
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:12:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
SoCal Rivesters,
I was
Always get a few spares on these. The orange part fades over time but so
slowly you don't notice until you see a new one. As William notes, they
also make great gifts. The velcro fastener works with a lot of seat bags
so even minimalists can find a way to attach.
dougP
On Wednesday, July
Ok I booked it cause I was afraid it would be gone! So I'm all the way in.
Mike sorry you can't but this was short notice so I sort of expected this
would happen with some. Anyway we can work on another date. Also I think it
would great if we could all meet @ Doug's or the Metro Link station.
Heart shaped cage.
On 7/31/13, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:
Yes, yes they are! http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9131448186/
The naming of the cage is interesting. The company is King Cage, or
Andrews, and the cage is an Iris.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Donald Lee
Also can hold a coffee thermos preferably with a little tape.
I do like the finish of the stainless. A just a little rough.
David
http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/9412939186/in/set-72157633319840872
On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:
Yes, yes they
Bellingham is on the Washington Canada border and has great food and salmon
to barbeque in the summer.
We have world class wine and micro brew beers although that pleasure is
denied me these days.
the riding here is beyond belief
people who wanted to stay longer than a weekend could hit the
I can't say Bellingham is centrally located. But that area would make
a great location for a Riv jamboree.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:20 PM, bo richardson borus...@gmail.com wrote:
Bellingham is on the Washington Canada border and has great food and salmon
to barbeque in the summer.
We have
Phew, my wallet is safe! Unless Grant keeps dropping the price on Mark's
BOM San Marcos... ;)
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:40:38 PM UTC-7, jenny klug wrote:
awesome! Thanks, Don!
--jenny @ RBW
ps, if it makes you feel any better, my PBH is 86.5 and I was riding the
heck out of that
It's pretty obvious this will be a west coast thing. Weather and lower
density of Riv owners here out east pretty much dictates it. One year I
will feel well enough for riv rally east though. You west coasters have it
good!
On Jul 31, 2013 9:28 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
I
Great!! I was so disappointed when Riv stopped carrying them that I called Jog
a lite who said they were not making them anymore.
I was out at RBW a few weeks ago and thought I was so lucky to pick a couple
out of the garage sale corner!!
Quality products is what Riv carries!
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How about a Riv tour down the Great Divide bike route? Mixed terrain,
self-supported, and a rider could choose a particular part or the whole
route.
just thinkin'
jim m
wc ca
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If it's in the summer I'm in.
Lets pick a date for this 2014 Jamboree
I say July 12-13 2014
Usually a quite week after the July 4. Let's make it happen!
-Manny
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Liesl,
I think it's a brilliant idea! I for one would love to meet other Riv
riders. I really, really, like the Bellingham notion as it would meet my
desire to go to PDX then up to the rally! The added benifit is that my wife
has family in Bellingham so I could sell her on that aspect of the
I have the following items for sale:
1. Brand new in the factory bag 27.2 Kalloy Laprade silver seatpost. $15
shipped
2. Brand new/never worn midnight blue Rivendell Cap. $15 shipped
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ac3-midblue.htm
3. VO Bottom Bracket. Used for approximately 300 miles
Hi Johnny. I'll take the shifters if they are still around. And the cap.
Dan
On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
I have the following items for sale:
1. Brand new in the factory bag 27.2 Kalloy Laprade silver seatpost. $15
shipped
2. Brand
Sent the $.
Dan McNamara
41 Bryn Mawr Dr
San Rafael, CA 94901
Thanks!
On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
I have the following items for sale:
1. Brand new in the factory bag 27.2 Kalloy Laprade silver seatpost. $15
shipped
2. Brand new/never
International Rivendell riders also invited! I can think of 3 guys in
Chiang Mai, Thailand, that would be welcome, and I'll bet there are some
others scattered around.
dougP
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:54:20 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
Liesl,
I think it's a brilliant idea! I for one
I built a bike for my 10 year old, and ended up riding it like crazy.
Philip
www.biketinker.com
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Philip
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You are formally invited to...
Bike Birthday Campout
When: Aug 17-18
Where: Two Rock Campgrounds at Lake Chabot Regional Park
Meet: San Leandro Bart 12ish
How:
Saturday: Easy bike camping trip starting from San Leandro cutting through
Lake Chabot to Two Rock Campgrounds
Query: Why do most manufacturers use the C-T measurement, when the
top is sorta' ambiguous? Seems like C-C is a more consistent
measurement, and the way top tubes are measured as well. Juster
wondering.
On 7/31/13, David Craig neritic.mari...@gmail.com wrote:
Point taken, Matt.
On the topic of
During the Rumble Mike and I talked about doing an overnighter up Mt.Tam.
I'm pretty sure theres campsites up there. I think we picked the date of
Aug 5.
Hopefully Mike sees this and confirms.
Hope ya'll can make it.
-Manny
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A tentative Yes. Thanks for putting this together!
If you're going to be @ San Mateo, you absolutely HAVE to ride the No
Tools trail on the San Clemente Singletrack. It parallels
Christianitos Rd and doesn't have any real climbs. Just up and downs
and all arounds.
This coming Monday night? Are you thinking totally legit or just semi-legit
camping?
- Andrew, Berkeley
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
During the Rumble Mike and I talked about doing an overnighter up Mt.Tam.
I'm pretty sure theres campsites up there. I
What, Juniper? I was looking for something to do when the BART strike
strands me at the office. Can I come?
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
During the Rumble Mike and I talked about doing an overnighter up Mt.Tam.
I'm pretty sure theres campsites up
For that matter, in the industry in general why are so few TT upslope angles
included in geometry info? With Rivs, for example, it's important to know that
some models slope about 2 degrees, while others slope 6 degrees. The 6 degree
ones shoot those bars up about 4 extra centimeters relative
Thanks Hugh. It sounds cool, but I'm assuming it will be too close to my return
south after a long bay area trip. We also have a school inservice keeping me
stuck in PV most of Friday. I'll let y'all know if I change my fortunes.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2013, at 5:12 PM, hsmitham
For that matter, in the industry in general why are so few TT upslope angles
included in geometry info? With Rivs, for example, it's important to know that
some models slope about 2 degrees, while others slope 6 degrees. The 6 degree
ones shoot those bars up about 4 extra centimeters relative
Monday night? H...
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To David Craig's question: no, for Atlantis and AHH, the TT listings are
actual, not effective. So with those two, the effective TT is a bit longer, but
the effect is relatively small due to low angles.
But yes it's true that the expanded frames (6 degree upslope ones) only list
the effective
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