Re: [RBW] All beausage team nomination

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:43:26 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: > > thats about the worst fender line I've seen. > Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: [RBW] Re: All beausage team nomination

wow. One can get a bike powdercoated for around $150 locally here. It wouldn't have the cream headtube but it would look way better than that abomination. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:38 PM, 'frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: > I'm sure this one will be hard to top. It originally belonged to Dan

Re: [RBW] All beausage team nomination

thats about the worst fender line I've seen. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Joe Broach wrote: > Years ago there was a great mini-writeup on a former Riv-employee's > seriously patina-ed Rivendell (custom or Longlow, I think). Actually, I > think Grant mentioned it was straddling the abuse/beaus

Re: [RBW] All beausage team nomination

Spencer. Works there now too! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I remember that bike. It was owned by one of Riv's first employees (whose > name is at the tip of my tongue, he's the first person I talked to > there..ack, can't think of it), Mavic starfish c

[RBW] Re: All beausage team nomination

While I love Rivendells, I just do not fall into the beausage crap. I have ridden 6000 miles a year for over 25 years. I have always tried to keep my bikes clean and well-lubed. I recently sold my Roadeo and the buyer got a bike that was ridden many miles, but was in excellent condition and I fe

[RBW] All beausage team nomination

I remember that bike. It was owned by one of Riv's first employees (whose name is at the tip of my tongue, he's the first person I talked to there..ack, can't think of it), Mavic starfish cranks, dropbars with no tape, and almost NO paint left. There was a similar frame hanging up in the tempora

[RBW] Re: S48O Truncated.

Deacon, I too am both impressed with the scenic beauty and glad you all rolled with it despite the difficulties, and had a great time nonetheless. That road makes me want to load up for a road trip. Cheers, ~Hugh On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 1:37:51 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Every

[RBW] fs: Sugino triple crankset

For sale is a Sugino XD600? Maybe an XD2? triple crankset. It's 170mm in length & features 48/36/26 chainrings. I replaced the original chainrings with new 9 speed 110 spaced ones. I can't recall who made 'em but they were sold by Quality Bike Parts, I actually think they were one of Q's imprin

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

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[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

CLEMENTINE: the Classy Lassie with the Sassy Chassis You're welcome -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegro

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

Awesome-aggrandizer-aggregator-app! On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: > I meant to go ride my bike.. > On Mar 25, 2015 6:35 PM, "Bill Lindsay" wrote: > >> I meant cyclotourist. >> I meant David. >> I meant Redlands >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:33:5

[RBW] Re: All beausage team nomination

The milk crate as a front basket is the topper. dougp On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:46:27 PM UTC-7, joe b. wrote: > > Years ago there was a great mini-writeup on a former Riv-employee's > seriously patina-ed Rivendell (custom or Longlow, I think). Actually, I > think Grant mentioned it wa

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

May i suggest "sassy"? Seems to speak of the pure fun these will be. Great fun to have an excuse to buy clementines and months to think how to build them up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: All beausage team nomination

I'll acknowledge there's a certain charm to the overly-racked-and-bag-matched garage queen vibe ("Still has that new saddle smell!"), but these are like finding my grandpa's long lost Estwing in the dark neglected corner of a Home Depot. Love 'em both. Keep 'em coming. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angele

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

I meant to go ride my bike.. On Mar 25, 2015 6:35 PM, "Bill Lindsay" wrote: > I meant cyclotourist. > I meant David. > I meant Redlands > > > > On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> Ron >> >> Doug was replying to cyclofiend, not dissing Grant. Do

[RBW] All beausage team nomination

Years ago there was a great mini-writeup on a former Riv-employee's seriously patina-ed Rivendell (custom or Longlow, I think). Actually, I think Grant mentioned it was straddling the abuse/beausage line. I nominate this venerable Atlantis for the all beausage team. I've seen it doing yeoman's work

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

I meant cyclotourist. I meant David. I meant Redlands On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Ron > > Doug was replying to cyclofiend, not dissing Grant. Doug was > congratulating cyclofiend for his big tent ride, the Strada Rossa. No > fights here.

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

Ron Doug was replying to cyclofiend, not dissing Grant. Doug was congratulating cyclofiend for his big tent ride, the Strada Rossa. No fights here. On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:05:28 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: > > et tu doug? looks like you're the one who is self-aggrandizing. I just >

Re: [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

Maybe Phillip Kim meant seatstays. Those are bent, to accommodate the super cool seatlug, which was initially developed for one size of big stout bike. At that time, they hinted that seat lug might get used on a second bike that comes in sizes. Turns out the multi-size bike came first. At t

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

No, the Atlantis chainstay swoop is a lot snazzier. The Atlantis features the nicest chainstay bends I've ever seen. The Clem is less bend and more squish. But they are loong so they didn't need to get squished all that much. They are just normal. On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:04

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

my expierence at water stops with bike shop groups is they don't know any alternatives exist. Yes, they love conversations about what they have never seen before or maybe remember from their college days. On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 6:05:28 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > et tu doug? looks l

RE: [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

Are we sure OP isn’t mistakenly calling the bent seatstays “chainstays”? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dougP Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:04 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem "

[RBW] Surreal vintage bicycle demo video

I have no words, except that the girl has skills. Amazing video, supposedly from 1965. (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.3

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

et tu doug? looks like you're the one who is self-aggrandizing. I just don't see Grant as any kind of bad guy in this. Why would you think we ride any differently than you. On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:50:07 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: > > You guys are entitled to some self-aggrandizing. T

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

" The chainstays are not perfectly straight in the horizontal plane. They jig-jag a bit to get around the fat tires and to clear the pedals." Bill: Are the chainstay bends similar to the ones on the Atlantis? dougP On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:43:49 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I di

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

I didn't see Grant when I rode the Clem. I am not sure I follow which bend you mean. The chainstays are not perfectly straight in the horizontal plane. They jig-jag a bit to get around the fat tires and to clear the pedals. Is there some other aspect you are looking at? Now they say the $70

Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

I think that's the original Otto. BQ did an issue with articles on both Jacquie and Charlie, and a studio shot of her bike. It did not have a suspension fork but was otherwise the same. That stem looks pretty rare, if not custom. dougP On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 9:39:00 PM UTC-7, James

Re: [RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

p.s. about fat tires: I'm riding Barlow Pass 38's on the Legolas, and it rides like a dream for fast road rides. My Roadeo has 35mm Schwalbe Kojaks that actually measure out to about 33 mm, and the bike looks like it could accomodate a 38mm tire pretty easily - provided you can find a brake se

Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand

best thing about a double kickstand is when you have to deal with a flat and don't have to flip the bike over On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:24:37 PM UTC-5, Steven Sweedler wrote: > > Tom, I haven't used anything to stop it from rolling, I just look for a > place where its not an issue. I fee

Re: [RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

I was 270 lbs and rode both a 62 cm Hunq and a 66 cm Quickbeam which are very different bikes (at least across the Riv line). Now I'm 208 and ride the same bikes. I've ridden both of them on short and long rides and they've always been great. The only problem I've had is that the QB has 32 spoke wh

Re: [RBW] S48O Truncated.

Great story and photos Patrick! Fully enjoyed it. René On Tuesday, March 24, 2015, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Life with a bludgeoned brain inherently means change in plans is the norm > rather than the exception. That's on top of the "change in plans" inherant > to doing anything adventurous. Grin

Re: [RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

I am a pocket-sized Clyde at 215. I easily and happily ride a custom, a Legolas, Roadeo, Quickbeam, and an Atlantis. I don't know the Hunq, have never ridden one, but it seems hell-for-stout. Based on my experience, I recommend the Atlantis. It takes fat tires easily and handles very well,

Re: [RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

I'm 225# and I ride a Riv Road Standard (Reynolds 753 frame). I do light touring on it, maybe with a total load of 275# (I was 250# when I bought it). My Riv has proven to be strong and capable. The frame seems responsive enough to give a good ride without being flexy. I have a Giordana racing

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

You guys are entitled to some self-aggrandizing. The world needs more Strada Rossa type events that bring diverse groups together. I had roadies comment on my Atlantis. While standing there trying to pick up the next course marking, a gal on a serious looking MTB said "follow me" & led us al

[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

I range between 220-240lbs and have had no issues with my Romulus with 28mm tires or my Saluki with 38mm tires. I've never tried carrying more than a credit card load with the Romulus, but with the Saluki I've gone on 5 day bikepacking trips with a front basket full and a carradice camper longf

[RBW] Re: FS: Frost River Gunflint Trail Saddlebags x2

Couldn't figure out how to edit my original post, so I'll do this correction here. As age plays tricks with my memory, I very much mis-characterized the Riv/Frost River issue in the first post. IIRC now, the Frost River (hereafter FR) bike bags were Grant/Riv designs, done as a Riv (hereafter R

[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

I'm 245 and rode a double top-tubed Sam for a while. It never felt weak or overly flexy. That being said, I sold it for want of fatter tires to accommodate a little rougher riding. Now I'm anxiously awaiting my Clem. This is a stout bike that will take fat tires, perfect for us Clydesdales.

Re: [RBW] Re: Jan Heine: A Randonneur’s Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

On 03/25/2015 01:43 PM, Ron Mc wrote: I'm also going to say again the namecalling and pigeonholing goes back to the bike rags. American road cyclists were divided into /tourists/ and /racers/ back when Bicycling magazine had just graduated from being a mimeographed sheet. The bikes were diff

[RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

I had an absolute ball. 50K+ ride was perfect for a fun day and not getting destroyed - with lots of time for hanging out. Thanks, David, for hosting - and for everyone else for the fun. I'll have to bring a riv next time... but Black Sheep was such a blast, though. Esteban On Monday, March 23,

[RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

That looks like a blast. On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:08:57 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: > > We had another great ride out in cyclotourist country. David was a great > host, we had gourmet pizza & craft beer. The day of the ride was superb! We > had Paul Germain visiting from Virginia for the sec

Re: [RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

I'm somewhere in the 260-270 range and I ride an older 68cm Custom that was built for a guy that probably weighed 190 soaking wet, and I've never had any issues in 10 years of owning it. I think you should get whatever model that you like the best and fits your intended purpose. One thing I will

Re: [RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

I currently weigh 284 and I ride both a Hunqapillar (and have done loaded overnights with it with no issues at all) and an Atlantis, which I only load for commuting (spare clothes and laptop). I run 50mm tires on the Hunqapillar and am now running 38mm Barlow Pass on the Atlantis for a superb quali

[RBW] FS - Atlantis and Betty Foy

Estate Sale. His and hers Rivendell Touring Bikes built early 2012. Atlantis 58cm Standard build Betty Foy 60cm Standard build Simano HG61 9 Speed 12-36 Cassette Sugino XD-2 Crankset, 170mm 700 x 38 Tires Brooks saddles Both bikes always stored indoors and are in like new condition. They in

[RBW] Re: Introduction - Newbie QB owner

Wow. Just when I think I've seen all the ways to set up a Quickbeam! Nice. Very nice. And orange... m! Enjoy the miles John! - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

To the riders that weigh 200 lbs or more, which Riv model are you riding? I am just shy of 300, so should I consider one model over another? I assume that the wider the tires the better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] FS: Patagonia and Rivendell wool tops

Purging the closet - 1 new Patagonia 1/4 zip top, red, long sleeve, size L (men) (wool 2 weight, 100% merino wool - old style before they diluted wool material mix), MUSA!, $45 w/shipping - 1 new Patagonia crew top, dark blue (almost looks grey), long sleeve, size L (men) (wool 2 weight, 1

Re: [RBW] Anyone in Georgia (USA) have a Sam (or other model) Size 55/56?

Bruce, I sent you a private message. I might be in the Knoxville area in a couple of weeks. On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 7:10:01 AM UTC-4, Bruce Baker wrote: > This might help I have a 56 Sam and live in Knoxville, TN. Let me know if > this works for you.. > Bruce > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 a

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

I noticed the chainstays have a slight bend to them. Did you happen to ask Grant why that was? On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 3:21:27 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem. I've > always felt lucky that I'm pretty much exactly Grant-si

[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

it says 1 inch headset, so must be 1 inch threadless steerer. If in doubt, send them an email. On Friday, February 14, 2014 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote: > > http://newalbioncycles.com/ > > Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be > associated with these bikes. N

[RBW] Curiosity killed the cat: Atlantis 54/54.5 vs Soma Saga 54?

So I'm not so good at understanding geometry charts, but ever since I've had my LHT 52cm (felt too small, sold) and Soma Saga 54cm (26" wheel version, fits quite well) I've been curious how the ride would compare if I swapped all my components over to an Atlantis of the same size Now I real

Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

I have to say it's one of the best ways to spend a Saturday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

[RBW] Re: Anyone in Georgia (USA) have a Sam (or other model) Size 55/56?

When you say surprised, were you surprised it was that low or that high? On your 56 Hillborne, what size tires do you have and what is the actual standover height? My issue is I am ballpark 83cm PBH and wear thin soled shoes, so I'm not sure if a 55 would work or not as I'd like to run as wide

Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand

Tom, I haven't used anything to stop it from rolling, I just look for a place where its not an issue. I feel kind of lost with my unloaded bikes when I have to lay them down, just seems wrong. Steve On Monday, March 23, 2015, Tom Harrop wrote: > Thanks Steve, that certainly looks like it's doing

[RBW] FS: Phil Wood / Rigida rear wheel, 650B, freewheel

I'm selling the rear wheel from my un-650B converted tourer. Phil Wood freewheel hub (130mm OLD), Rigida Sphinx rim (non-offset, which I prefer), straight-gauge Wheelsmith spokes, Velox tape, built by me a few years back. The hub spins perfectly. The rim has maybe 2K miles, but is good for many

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

I hesitate to bring it up as I don't want to harp on it constantly, but the Strada Rossa was 100% intended to be an all-things to all-people ride. Mountainbikers, roadies, CX race teams, country-bikers, kids, randoneurs... all present and accounted for. I don't want it to ever lose that inclusive v

[RBW] Re: Jan Heine: A Randonneur’s Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

I'm also going to say again the namecalling and pigeonholing goes back to the bike rags. This is a city bike. This is a hybrid. If it's steel, it must be one or the other. It has always worked that way in fly fishing, too. When Ted Leeson wrote a rod review, everybody went out to buy it

Re: [RBW] wtb: nitto r14

Hey Bo - already found one. Thanks for the note. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:44 AM, bo richardson wrote: > i have one i am not using > > bo > 360 6764838 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Jan Heine: A Randonneur’s Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

Grant really is offering an alternative to the industry mainstream. I think the strides the industry is making in the direction of more sensible products has a lot to do with Grant's soapbox. But it was, afterall, the bike rags who threw the first stick - retrogrouch. Thank you, I'll be ol

[RBW] Re: Jan Heine: A Randonneur’s Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

In an apparent World of Relativity , all choices made, regardless and absolutely, are relatively meaningless ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

I thought steeper seat tube angles for smaller sizes were a thing of the past? Only means you have to shove back the saddle more and more, and have seat posts with more setback. Johan Larsson, Sweden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bu

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur’s Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

Y'know, I think Grant and Jan really intend the same thing; they say it in very different ways. I think Jan's intention of accepting all cycling and all cyclists is, really, intended by Grant in this sense, that he wants (and says in a very strong way) cycling to include kinds and kit other than th

[RBW] Re: Jan Heine: A Randonneur’s Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

Nice interview/story. I'm glad we have folks like Jan and Grant (spelled his last name wrong in Bicycle Story!) and others. On a note related to the quote: The weather is improving in the Boston area, and cyclers are coming back out for the commute to/from work. Bicycle traffic is a thing-- and

[RBW] FS: Frost River Gunflint Trail Saddlebags x2

Time to face the fact I'm not using transverse saddle bags any more. Offering two Frost River Gunflint Trail saddle bags to the list. Both are very clean, one is very slightly more beausaged than the other---mostly more tire rub and road stain on the bottom. No holes, rips, loose seams or other

[RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur’s Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

Interesting interview with Jan, in which he suggests that, "Ultimately, we shouldn’t divide the bicycle world into racers and non-racers and this and that. In the end, we all share the joy of cycling. It can come in so many different guises. If I see someone who’s riding their bike with a smile

Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

Jim, thanks so much for that! Glad you were able to backtrack and meet up w/ Doug and Robert. And then go on your excellent adventure with them! The whole intention of this event was to showcase the mixed-surface riding we have, and to you know, have a good time! Success on both fronts! On Tue,

Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

It was practically an Entmoot! I think the 50k could be done with a QB fine, presuming you have a high and low gear to swap into. The 40X19 and a 32X19 "regular" gears I have on mine can handle it all... but, I'd still be going slow and having to stop and change gears a lot. I was considering ridin

[RBW] Re: Cheviot Flikr Group

Thank you both ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own

[RBW] Re: Cheviot Flikr Group

https://www.flickr.com/groups/2814141@N23/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.c

[RBW] Re: Cheviot Flikr Group

Search groups for Rivendell Cheviot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, sen

[RBW] wtb: nitto r14

i have one i am not using bo 360 6764838 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this grou

[RBW] Re: Cheviot Flikr Group

What's the direct link ? Trying to find things on flickr is sometimes like , errr facebook . lol ;) On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 8:17:27 PM UTC-4, Kellie wrote: > > I added a group for Rivendell Cheviot owners to add photos of their bikes. > I invite all to contribute. > -- You rece

[RBW] Re: My Winter Projects

Soren: Nice build, cool panniers, nice mod... Where did you find the bags to make the panniers? I saw the Camargue up close at the Philly Bike Expo... just a solid-looking workhorse-of-a-bike... very impressed. Curious why you left the front shifter on the down-tube? Great job, BB On Satur

[RBW] Re: Cheviot Flikr Group

Why, of course. It's the Rivendell *family*. On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 8:22:37 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: > > Kellie: > > Even if we don't have a Cheviot, can we peek? :-) > > dougP > > On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 5:17:27 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote: >> >> I added a group for Rivendell Cheviot owners

Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

If we're going back that far, let's keep going. The first ale was brewed in the US in 1587! http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/101/history_american_beer/ --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Brewster Fong wrote: > > >> On M