Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

Patrick: "Have others had James's problem with RH cranks loosening? If so, I shall resolutely avoid buying one." There was a thread about RH cranks coming loose a few months back, and mine are among a few that have had that issue. It happened more in the beginning and decreased in frequency ov

[RBW] Re: How do you ship yer Riv?

There is also https://www.shipbikes.com. You can call and talk to them with your questions on box and bike size: Contact info: PH: 1-708-383-2433. inform at shipbikes.com They do sell a ready-made XL bike container. It is advertised as suitable for tandems, large mountain bikes and e-Bikes.:

[RBW] Bump: Removing primer from powdercoat

Does anyone have any suggestions for removing tendrils of acrylic primer from powdercoat without damaging the powdercoat? Story below. Thanks. When I touched up the bare areas on the seatstays caused by rubbing of a flat tire during a ~5 mile walk home a while ago, I used acrylic primer and paint

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

I have also found on some of the older Rivendell models with 2°-3° sloping top tubes Bike insights mixes up the effective top tube and calls it the actual top tube and then calculates a longer effective top tube. -Dave On 12/18/20, Dave Johnston wrote: > I don't know if every model is wrong on

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

I don't know if every model is wrong on Bike insights but when they skip the 20mm head-tube extension in the calculated values, the Stack would actually be 19mm higher and the reach 6mm Less. On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 9:13:12 PM UTC-5 Dave Johnston wrote: > I have found bikeinsights to be

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

I have found bikeinsights to be wrong on both Stack and Reach for Rivendell bikes. They don't take into account the head-tube extension built into Riv's lugs. -Dave J On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 8:53:13 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote: > Whoops, sorry about that! Here are the frames you se

Re: [RBW] Bleriot by the Lake

Most excellent, Andy! On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:58 AM, Andy Williams wrote: > From December 2 this year, when we had a record Seattle December heat wave of > 60 degrees > > A > > > > On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: > Isn't that the wrong season? Gra

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

Whoops, sorry about that! Here are the frames you selected: White outline: 57 Appaloosa (2020) Black outline: 55 Atlantis (2019) https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e308654dcfe4e001737cc7d%2C5e1faf637f17da00170c6e27 Welcome to the list, Johnny! On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Den John w

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you ship yer Riv?

I have thought through this very problem for a while, and so much hinges on how frequently you plan to travel with your bikes. If this is a one-off then your best move is probably to bite the bullet and just pay the ludicrous oversized shipping costs. That adds up quickly though, and if you envi

Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

I believe you. I wonder if your instance was a production outlier. Have others had James's problem with RH cranks loosening? If so, I shall resolutely avoid buying one. On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 1:48 PM James Valiensi wrote: > Patrick, > I’ve mounted hundreds of tapered-square bottom brackets, on

[RBW] Clem H 52 gone in record time. Who is the lucky winner?

Well, that was quick! Got an email that there was one final Clem H 52cm available at 310pm and it was gone by 319pm. I was considering buying for a friend who is looking for that exact bike. Not only was it marked down from $900 to $800, but there was a $100 credit if purchased before 12/31.

Re: [RBW] Re: Hi & Questions...

I think the Joe A, but not the Homer, would be the better bike for the hard riding you'd like to do. It's a very rugged bike. You might also want to look at Riv's new hilly bikes (I don't know anything about them). or even the Clem H. On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 12:30:37 PM UTC-5 philipr

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: maybe my Medium Susie in blue, $2500 shipped

still got it. new parts.. nitto stem, not the faceplater, and albatross bars. no seat or pedals $2400? plz On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 9:56:15 AM UTC-5 i wrote: > Some nibbles but still got it > On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 7:55:53 PM UTC-5 i wrote: > >> Yes, it is I >> >> Igor, Ann Arb

[RBW] Re: How do you ship yer Riv?

That's a tough one. Have you checked with https://www.bikeflights.com/faq ? From discussions here, they seem a good source, and much more customer oriented than common carriers. I have not used them but would look into next time I ship my bike. My 58cm Atlantis is the old, shorter wheelbase

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

Wilbury (frame + fork allegedly never built up) 52cm $2,000 Suffield CT https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/d/suffield-rivendell-mixte-wilbury-frame/7232671951.html On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:19:16 AM UTC-5 ack...@gmail.com wrote: > Not to beat a dead horse, but Clems are $900 for the

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

Thanks Matthew, that is incredibly helpful. Johnny On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 23:52, Matthew Williams < matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Johnny, > > Here's a site for comparing frames: > > > https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578f548f3a30004789b07,5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c&bui

Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

The Fifth Season stuff over at analog is very nice. On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 4:06 PM Lucky wrote: > Yes, thanks, I wasn't going to list all the ones I have looked at, but I > have looked at RandiJo. I was sort of looking for just hobby crafter types, > maybe. I'm spoiled by my Greg bags for sure. I

[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

I am leaving this first post intact in case any list members wish to communicate with Deacon directly. Please note - as stated (to paraphrase a certain bike company..."ever since 2007"): "*RBW Owners Bunch - Dedicated to the discussion of Rivendell Bicycles and products* Ride reports encourage

Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

Awesome! Shoot him an email first, just to make sure he is able to work on them/has stock. He has been a busy guy these last few weeks. Collin, Sactown On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 2:47:19 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote: > Yes! Perfect! My town. > > On Dec 18, 2020, at 14:36, Collin A wrote: > > Th

[RBW] Re: Replace my Atlantis ?

Sean, I have a new 55cm MIT Atlantis, the smallest frame size designed for 700c wheels. Riv has conflicting information on their website in regards to maximum 700c/29er tire size. 2.2 and 2.4 is mentioned. In my experience, experimenting with different tires, I would only fit 2.1's or smaller,

[RBW] Re: Replace my Atlantis ?

Sean, I have Jones bars on all my bikes, including my Atlantis. I also own a Jones Plus LWB. My MIT Atlantis with 29x2.1's rides smoother than my Jones with 29x2.6's. Both bikes have a 1200 mm wheelbase, give or take a few mm, which I found interesting. If you do run Jones bars with a 1" quill

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

Hi Johnny, Here's a site for comparing frames: https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578f548f3a30004789b07,5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c&builds=, On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Den John wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Johnny. I live in Belgium and I'm Riv Curious. I post from time to >

[RBW] How do you ship yer Riv?

Hello 👋 All. I am planning a trip out west to help take care of my parents, and I’d like to take my long wheelbase Atlantis and my wife’s Clem, as baggage on the plane or by shipping them UPS.The wheelbases are so long they appear not to fit in most normal bike travel boxes. I know I can us

Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

Wow! I have a 1999 Riv Road. Definitely have put some loving wear on mine. Yours looks brand new. On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:30 AM Damien wrote: > Well, wow. This is a really lovely Riv. Thanks for sharing. > > Fun fact: your bike is legal drinking age in Canada! > > -- > You received this messa

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else a paranoid mechanic?

All of the above and then I spin the wheel with tire at pressure and look for any wobbles, bulges or such in the tire. If something is amiss , reduce pressure and check for tube under the bead or pull on the tire to achieve that sometimes elusive evenness with rim. Spin and repeat as needed. Joh

[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

Yeah, I am really happy with how it turned out also. It was a fun project. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59cm/7247924038.html On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:05:29 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > 59cm Clem H, grilver, really clean build. > > > http

[RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

Hello, My name is Johnny. I live in Belgium and I'm Riv Curious. I post from time to time on the iBOB group. I've been obsessed with the idea of owning a Riv for a while. I'm particularly interested in the Atlantis and Appaloosa. Could anyone tell me the stack & reach numbers for a 55cm Atlan

[RBW] Re: Anyone else a paranoid mechanic?

Pump the tire up until it’s slightly firm, then squeeze it as you peak between rim and tire and you will see if the tube is pinched. Of course go around the whole wheel on both sides. On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 9:11:36 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote: > Hey all! > I just threw on Schw

[RBW] Bridgestone CBO City Bike 53 cm for sale

Available for local pickup in SF Bay Area. It is being sold by a friend. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-bridgestone-cb0-city-bike/7241278301.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this g

Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

Yes! Perfect! My town. > On Dec 18, 2020, at 14:36, Collin A wrote: > > This guy is local to Sacramento and does it on the side: > https://www.cyclecatsdesign.com/ > > He does waxed canvas. > > Also this guy: > https://www.petercaneza.com/snackbags > > Haven't used them, but apparently you

Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

This guy is local to Sacramento and does it on the side: https://www.cyclecatsdesign.com/ He does waxed canvas. Also this guy: https://www.petercaneza.com/snackbags Haven't used them, but apparently you can send old fabrics/gear and he can make the bag out of it for you. Cheers, Collin in Sac

Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

Yes, I am familiar with Makeshifter, they make nice bags. They're not making custom bags as they are very busy making and delivering the stock bags they currently make and sell. I'm familiar with the bags sold by Simworks, and Golden Pliers and similar bike shops (all the Riv dealers). I'm real

Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

Yes, thanks, I wasn't going to list all the ones I have looked at, but I have looked at RandiJo. I was sort of looking for just hobby crafter types, maybe. I'm spoiled by my Greg bags for sure. It was fun picking the crazy fabrics and having the freedom to sort of design it. This go round I want

Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

Is https://www.randijofab.com on your radar at all? Her stock items are nice, and she may be open to custom bag orders as well. I recently ordered a cap in a custom configuration and it wasn’t a hassle at all. Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA Sent from my Atari 400 > On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Lu

[RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

Hey all, I found a guy who makes handlebar snack bags (amongst many other bike bags) and I love the ones I got from him very much (he is @greg.newland on Instagram) but he's currently not taking custom orders. I know there are a lot of commercially made bags online but I'm looking for somethi

Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

Patrick, I’ve mounted hundreds of tapered-square bottom brackets, only one came loose and that was because I didn’t tighten it enough. This one required much more tightening force than any other one I’ve dealt with before (Campy, Shimano, TA, Sugino to mention a few I’ve worked on). My RH crank

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

Joe - I keep referring to him as "Deacon" in order to avoid confusion with the other Patrick. He is a real deacon, BTW, in his local Roman Catholic congregation, something he takes very seriously. On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 2:33:01 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: > Let me say this about that

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

Steve, again - as I stated previously, I did not follow the thread that involved the discussion of "reparations," but some remark that someone made must have been taken as hostile to a reply that Deacon made. Hence, he (wisely) decided to back out of the list entirely because he evidently felt

Re: [RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

Ding Ding! That Acorn Musette is just what I was looking for! Got one ordered and on the way. I agree with Toshi, I was shocked to see that an Acorn product was actually in stock. On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote: > Wow, an acornbags product that is actually in sto

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

Let me say this about that: His name is Patrick. Patrick the Deacon. Bernard Joe On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:21:28 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote: > Steve - Deacon used the phrase "rise of the cancel culture" in his reply > to Patrick's inquiry. The author of the review of that book I ci

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

Regardless of the merits (or lack thereof) of those arguments, in no way do they affect what goes on on this list that I can see.  Can you show me any instances where I'm incorrect about that? On 12/18/20 3:21 PM, George Schick wrote: Steve - Deacon used the phrase "rise of the cancel culture"

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

Steve - Deacon used the phrase "rise of the cancel culture" in his reply to Patrick's inquiry. The author of the review of that book I cited carefully discusses the intersection of conflicting views that eventually result in the refusal to pay attention to any of them under the guise of some ki

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

The material discussed in the attached file has no relevance to this list at all that I can see. On 12/18/20 1:44 PM, George Schick wrote: I think he's responding to issues cited in the attached file.  I carefully decided not to follow the threads in the "reparations" post so I'm not sure exac

Re: [RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

Wow, an acornbags product that is actually in stock (at least as of now)! Toshi On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 11:47 AM Dave S wrote: > https://acornbags.com/products/musette-bag > > > On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:16:56 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote: > >> I was gifted, by a very kind soul, an o

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

Per his blog post, he seems to be under the impression that his postings are being censored.  I can't imagine why he would feel that way. On 12/18/20 2:02 PM, J L wrote: I seem to remember Patrick’s advocacy of Homeopathy causing a stir among members. I don’t think there was any specific incid

[RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

https://acornbags.com/products/musette-bag On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:16:56 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote: > I was gifted, by a very kind soul, an old Riv Plain Musette made of > organic cotton, along with the 1996 Rivendell catalog that it's featured > in. Like the label implies, it's

Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

James's report on the RH crank surprised me, since I have thought that I might one day buy one. But this report of loosening does not make me confident. Have others had the same experience with loosening? Note: I am aware how hard it is to get a response from RH "customer service." My method to f

Re: [RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

Censor him! On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:00 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Crap. Sorry folks, posted to wrong thread. Ack! -- --- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Musette Recommendations

A tangent but not a 90* one: for those who want the opposite to what Michael wants, and are looking for a minimalist, very light musette that can be folded tiny and stuffed into a small kit bag for occasional pickups when you are not palping bike luggage, Velo Retro's musettes are just right. I car

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

In my brief email conversation with him I gathered that he finds the need to withdraw from public discussion and spend more time alone; at least, he has done this once or twice before with this list. So perhaps he will come back again. I miss his photos especially. Deacon *we're talking about you!

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

I seem to remember Patrick’s advocacy of Homeopathy causing a stir among members. I don’t think there was any specific incident that lead to him dropping off but I’m not so much in the know. From what I gather Patrick has a full life outside of this list and made the choice to stop participating

[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

This group is moderated. There will be times that this is referred to as "censorship", although that's a negative word I don't think applies here. I can't say anything I want on this list because it's not my list and someone moderates for content. Joe Bernard On Friday, December 18, 2020 at

[RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

Crap. Sorry folks, posted to wrong thread. Ack! On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote: > I like the Riv flatsack > , though I > wish it were just a bit taller to fit a standard magazine. Currently sold > out

[RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

This group is moderated. There will be times that this is referred to as "censorship", although that's a negative word I don't think applies here. I can't say anything I want on this list because it's not my list and someone moderates for content. Joe Bernard On Friday, December 18, 2020 at

[RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

I like the Riv flatsack , though I wish it were just a bit taller to fit a standard magazine. Currently sold out. I saw Herse is selling one - lightweight and packab

[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

I think he's responding to issues cited in the attached file. I carefully decided not to follow the threads in the "reparations" post so I'm not sure exactly what was said that triggered his withdrawal from the group, but reading the critique will give you the basic crux of what he's objecting

[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

I read the Deacon's blog post last night. This incidentally is corresponding with my own return to the RBW Owners Bunch after a couple year hiatus. Something pleasing about reading his words as some of my first. But like a lot of Deacon's prose I struggle with his words; I had to reread it a fe

[RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

Michael, I have a Strawfoot waxed-canvas musette that I really like. Handmade in Santa Cruz, CA. Still plain and functional, but the waxed canvas does provide a fair deal of structure. I don't know what the original Riv musette looks like, but the Strawfoot was a nice, straightforward clasp to

[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

Spectacular response On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 8:29:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: > > https://deaconpatrick.org/reaching-a-crossroads-with-an-online-bicycle-group > > > Note > > that I didn't in fact direct h

[RBW] Musette Recommendations

I was gifted, by a very kind soul, an old Riv Plain Musette made of organic cotton, along with the 1996 Rivendell catalog that it's featured in. Like the label implies, it's plain and simple. I'm planning to keep it in my bike bag for those instances where I need to carry just a bit more than th

[RBW] Deacon Patrick

https://deaconpatrick.org/reaching-a-crossroads-with-an-online-bicycle-group Note that I didn't in fact direct him to take a look at the sentiments expressed about him, but simply said that many had expressed interest an

Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

Turns out my former crankset was a VO Polyvalent 46-30T which is no longer offered. Curvaceous yes, accessible bolts to attach rings to crank spider yes, but I switched to a Sugino XD2 compact double. Hoping to avoid changing out a chainring in the future! On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 4:53 PM James Valie

Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

Andy, I’m originally from north of your area, New Castle PA. My folks still live there. I keep a bike at their house. There is a really nice bike trail that runs along the Mahoning River between New Castle and Youngstown OH. Have you ridden it? It is ten miles one way and not exactly challenging

Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

>From my Hilltrek Ventile anorak I give a nod to DP's championing of the Scottish brand and his reports of his Cotton Analogy in real use. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:44:58 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote: > Was thinking of DP yesterday as I put on my fish net long undies,

[RBW] Inspiring Riv Riders: Pamela Murray

Terrific! Way to go Pam and welcome to the group. I like the carrying of unusual loads on a bike. I've used the little two wheel hand trucks / hand carts to tow heavier or larger loads on my bikes a few times. Also I've carried things probably too heavy for rear rack and baskets all strapped l