I hope to start doing some light touring around central Texas in the
fall/winter/spring
Thing is, shoes take up a lot of room in your luggage. If you plan to do
things other than camp on your tours* you should consider riding in a pair
of shoes you can walk in comfortably and will not
Do they really tear up your paint job on your bike? That's the only
reason why I haven't bought them.
You are asking this about Pitlocks or something else?
If Pitlocks, the contact points are not any more than standard skewers.
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Looks like a Jitensha to me as well. I am a flat bar fan. Really like
that Roadeo.
On Monday, August 11, 2014 3:39:39 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
I saw that emailed Rivendell to find out which bar this is. Agree that
it looks good I'm still experimenting with bars on my Atlantis.
dougP
It also seems incredibly expensive for a piece of rubber with some fabric
glued on top.
Except that is not how it is made. The Fabric is infused into the rubber.
Not an easy process and certainly not inexpensive.
Especially so when compared to the cost of leather. There is so much
My road bike is a custom with geometry similar to the Masis and DeRosas
that were considered top of the line in the mid-1980s (wanna guess when I
was a poor undergrad?). The drop bars and saddle height are even. No
angle on the saddle at all (at least as well as I can tell).
For the most
There is something sinister about leather having a lower input cost than
rubber, if that is indeed the case.
Oh I agree. In Brasil many beautiful stretches of forest where rubber
trees grow naturally have been leveled for cow pasture and soy feed - much
of which is used to feed cows.
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On Monday, August 11, 2014 8:17:33 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
My road bike is a custom with geometry similar to the Masis and DeRosas
that were
Nice.
On Monday, August 11, 2014 5:52:09 PM UTC-5, Trevor saxton wrote:
I used to run a jitensha on a roadeo and had it set up as a single speed
longest ride with that set up for me was a 50km charity ride, not my
fastest 50km, but no pain whatsoever.
Pitlocks work well, look good and last forever. Why are they not
affordable?
On Saturday, August 9, 2014 1:23:17 AM UTC-5, grrlyrida wrote:
Here's a kickstarter for nut locks like an affordable pitlock:
, Matthew J wrote:
That is too bad. With the rise of 1x8/9/10 and now 11, I think they
could really expand their customer base with a good wide-narrow option.
Hopefully they change their mind in time.
Agreed to a point. I like WI stuff. The more reasons to buy the
better. I would love
That is too bad. With the rise of 1x8/9/10 and now 11, I think they could
really expand their customer base with a good wide-narrow option. Hopefully
they change their mind in time.
Agreed to a point. I like WI stuff. The more reasons to buy the better.
I would love to have a WI crank on
I think White Industries can afford to offer a wide/narrow chainring for
exactly the reasons you say that they can't afford to...
Well, I certainly hope you are right. As should be clear I am both a WI
and 1X fan. .
Still, I wonder whether it will happen. CAM is certainly not as
I have a VBC crankset on my road bike. It's a 44/30. I could just
remove the front derailer and the 30T ring, and put on a bigger cassette.
Maybe borrow the Rivvy 12-34 from my Hillborne. That would give me a
1x9 with gears of: 35,42,50,57,66,74,85,91,99
That's what I'm thinking.
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Of course I would way rather buy direct from White. Their stuff has always
been great and I'd prefer to support them directly.
I'm trying to think if anyone else makes WI compatible rings of any sort.
It could be WI has IP protection for the ring/arm interface and will not
license. Just
Timely revisit!
Maybe others here know already but somehow I missed that Raceface now
offers a narrow wide tooth chainring that purportedly reduces chain
slipping in 1x set up. They come in 104, 110 and 130 bcd with a fair range
of tooth choices up to 44T (might go higher but that is highest
They replied already, saying that they have discussed it internally, but
there is no specific plan in place at the moment.
I think White's mindset is more single speed where wide/narrow does not
make a difference.
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Meant to add - WT has a few out of the ordinary compatibles, wonder if they
might be inclined to do a WI.
On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:31:44 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
They replied already, saying that they have discussed it internally, but
there is no specific plan in place at the moment
I have 700C not 650B. Went from Cyores to Extra Light. Els are noticeably
better. Expect 650B is similar.
On Saturday, August 2, 2014 10:10:14 AM UTC-5, Johnny Alien wrote:
So I am going to get some new tires for my SH. I have rocked a few tires
for this but most have been heavier weight
When BQ tested their first Calfee the question was
raised about rack mounts, and Calfee provided a response in a side bar:
if a bike falls over with a load on a rack, it puts an off-angle stress
on the rack and mounting points. Carbon frames when subjected to that
kind of stress tend to
One reckons if it were possible they would certainly be offering such a
thing as one of the good things about CF construction is variations do not
take a whole lot of tooling.
To be clear am talking about the small operation hand built CF stuff, not
the molded Steve mentions above.
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Spurcycle makes the best bell I have found. It is really nice, however it
does not have quite the classic look as a brass bell. It is stunning in
it's perfection and tooling. I have one on my Atlantis and have ordered
another for my mountain bike. Expensive for a bell, but worth it. Clay
I
Love the Cambium Love!
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Of course if Calfee is sincerely saying that they tried and failed,
that's one thing. If they have not sincerely tried to solve the problem,
though and are saying no just to be safe, that's
something else
I am not sure what the reasoning is, but even custom tour bikes made with
the high
A nice loud bing that carries a good distance.
On Monday, July 28, 2014 4:12:17 PM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
I agree... the Spurcycle stainless bell looks awesome... But how does it
sound?
BB
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On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 5:10:22 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
Right, you'll just save it to floppy disk. Oh, no, wait...
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You hush your mouth sir! Don't even suggest such a thing.
I can think of no GREATER concern than looking up old bicycle articles.
Whatever impact the implosion of Google/Apple might have on my livelihood
pales in comparison to the potential loss of that steady drip of, and ready
access to,
I still have a box that can read zips and Connor tape drives. I'm not
proud of that...
i had one until last year when I bought cloud storage.
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While I like Bicycle Times, too, and subscribe to it electronically, if
you're looking for a magazine worthy of it's paper, and your time, and one
that repays additional study, I recommend Bicycle Quarterly, in case you
haven't seen it or haven't read it lately!
I will not subscribe to BQ as
Looks like a cool Euro trip set up, except no fenders?!?
Been a rainy 2014 in much of Europe this year.
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 5:33:40 PM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote:
Received my digital version of the magazine and on the cover is a
Hunqapillar.
Check out the cover here
The original post did not say what sort of hubs were on the wheel set. I
see now the OP did later post the wheel set is based around LX.
On Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:48:51 AM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote:
As has already been stated, Shimano hubs come with QRs so it is actually
nothing like
:21 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
The original post did not say what sort of hubs were on the wheel set. I
see now the OP did later post the wheel set is based around LX.
On Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:48:51 AM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote:
As has already been stated, Shimano hubs come with QRs
QR Skewers cost money. Even basic skewers are over $20.00. If you did not
order a set with your wheels you cannot expect to get them. If I order
pancakes at McDonalds but no coffee, I do not think I should get coffee anyway.
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I have bought wheels from Rich, Peter White, an excellent local builder,
and a couple resales over the years.
If the hubs in question are not sold with skewers, the wheels do not come
with skewers. Based on my experience, it is industry standard (Shimano
excepted) that skewers are an extra
I'd recommend Beta Brand bike to work knickers, which have become my most
worn pants very quickly. Looser than Swrve, tighter than Riv, and made in
San Francisco.
Had never heard of Beta Brand before your post. Decided to check them
out. My work knickers arrived yesterday. Have not tried
Which 1/8 chains are modern and different from old style ones?
Wipperman makes 1/8' chains with the same alloys, plating and links as
their 10 speed chains. Izumi 1/8th Keirin chains are made to very high
standards as well.
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:00:25 AM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
Agree with Patrick M., probably an installation issue. Sheldon Brown says
somewhere that modern 8/9/10 speed chains are actually stronger than single
speed chains, due to all the engineering that has to go into them to make
them strong enough to handle shifts under load.
That assumes 1/8th
Alex:
Those Beta Brand have nice features at a good price.
How thick are they? I like wearing knickers as they prevent uncomfortable
knee sunburn. The problem I've had with the SF made shorts and tops is
they do not account for the humid heat we get here in the Midwest.
Aero-Tech are
The Jeff Jones bikes (and h-bar!) are thoroughly tempting.
Same here. Ti Space Frame, Truss Fork, Extra Wide Rims and Tires.
I'ld probably spend a lot more time looking at it than riding it.
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I have to agree that I find the Silvers more precise and easier to use
with 9 speeds.
That may explain our different experiences. The largest rear cluster I've
ever had is 7. Have never had a triple crank.
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This time it is great. I'm not sure if the indexing is wearing out on the
shifter or what. I would tend to suspect my not so great mechanic ability,
but the great thing is,
it doesn't matter. I loved the friction shifting. I think I may never go
back. This is one more thing that Grant is right
Why not a one by 5? That's what I have on my commuter / light tourer.
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:03:00 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
Yes ! I love my left hand, and I love using it :) I'd rather have a 5
speed cogset and a double or triple than one of those all right hand
systems. Better
White Industries' ENO or VBC cranks, ENO bash guard chainring may be the
ticket. It doesn't come in 40T though.
Wish White would make the Bash Guard equipped Eno with larger rings. Guess
most demand for the White is with the pure MTB set.
TA makes a very lovely silver bash guard (need to
But I seem to be hearing of more people trying to get along *without* a
front derailleur as if it's like giving up gluten or dairy (simply because
they're hearing from others there may be benefit to it). Is this more
fashion than
function? Are we being lulled by the industry into swapping
Bravo. I really like that Riv did this. The locking top on Pletcher racks
is so useful. To have it on a tour worthy rack at that price - first world
labor even! - just incredible.
On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:31:14 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I got me some Swiss metal. It's not clear
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I love my BG half toe clips on White Industries pedals.
On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com wrote:
Either ride flats or clip in.
Says you.
I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes.
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I rode toeclips for 15+ years and I don't have problems with flattening
the cage. So I think it's a matter of what you are accustomed to and
proficient with. I see people struggling to get into clip-ins all the
time, so I don't
think it's that different.
My reference above is to using
Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not
been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable
source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the
sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not
that it
My question for you is do you work in the bike biz???
I do not work in the bike business.
But having bought four steel and one Ti Bruce Gordon half clips over the
years I think I am qualified to say they are very good!
On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:13:46 PM UTC-5, bgcycles wrote:
Dear Evan
That is quite an endorsement.
http://about.me/evanbaird/
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fevanbaird%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFDbpDUNN6SlVPC1tYOuGvAV22XSw
Based on my experience with IRD freewheels, not sure I would claim an
association with them as bicycle props.
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Either ride flats or clip in.
Says you.
I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes.
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Umm, are you fucking kidding me?
You thought those were worth cursing Bruce Gordon? The MKS look exactly
like the King Cages. Every detail. Both are easily distinguished from the
old French clips.
I'm with Bruce on this. King does great work. He and his wife run a great
operation.
So are you using the 7/8ths, 1 or 1 1/18ths inch? My question was which
of the thre works with the Nitto Dirt Drop without being incorporated into
the spacers. Turns out that is the 7/8ths.
Which works with Bullmoose?
On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:09:50 AM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote:
Im using
Thinking about installing my Nitto Dirt Drop on a bike with Paul Racers.
Paul's site (language appears to be picked up verbatim by third parties
selling) says two of its Funky Monkey's work with quill stems. One is a 1
model, the other 7/8ths. I think the 1 is meant to be installed between
Figured I would get some good, on point advice. Thanks Steve and team!
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:20:16 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 05/29/2014 12:15 PM, Garth wrote:
Having used the traditional quill and headset mounted cable stops, I
tried this one from Tektro last year that
Really like Brooks' commitment to the Cambium.
One year after launching the all rounder C-17, Brooks will soon offer a
narrower competition version.
If narrow saddles are your thing, you can take a chance to get one of the
first 100 free here: http://www.brooksengland.com/cambium/c15.aspx
I have the C17 on my commuter bike and my road bike. Quite happy so far.
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:25:31 AM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
I am afraid to enter, because my previous entry to test the original may
or may not actually be in their system, since that process failed for me
Mounted Stampede Pass tires on my road bike two weeks ago. ~50 mile mixed
MUP and road riding yesterday.
Wow! These replaced 700x30 Grand Bois Extra Leger. Difference was notable
nonetheless. Smoother, faster, more comfortable. There is a gravel path
that runs beside the MUP for a few
What is the wait time on the Hilsen? It was a while back but I recall GP
posting Riv had a surplus of larger 650B frames. The 700C is obviously a
good choice as well.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think
Yes, it would be the same. Weight is weight and physics is physics.
Yes and no. Depending on the bikes geometry, where the weight is located
makes a big difference.
My high trail, short chain stay Spectrum rides beautifully with just me on
board, rides pretty well even with a weekend
More work, but I think you will find doing so will speed the process and
yield higher returns.
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 1:14:29 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
Thanks for the thoughts. Might be the way to go by selling frame
separately. Then wheels. Then other components from the bike since so many
Perhaps I am the voice in the wilderness here, but 30 gears, especially for
commuting, light touring is overkill to me.
I chose the gears on my ride range 5 speed to fit just about every
situation I could imagine needing. As it is, I use the three middle gears
90% of the time, with the low
, 2014 9:10:09 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 05/07/2014 09:52 AM, Matthew J wrote:
Perhaps I am the voice in the wilderness here, but 30 gears,
especially for commuting, light touring is overkill to me.
I chose the gears on my ride range 5 speed to fit just about every
situation
is better spent on higher
quality frame, fork, tires and the like.
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:48:31 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 05/07/2014 11:40 AM, Matthew J wrote:
Mine is set up 12-36. More than wide enough for riding with largely the
same load over terrain that does not vary
, distance, and above all on personal
preference. Me, if I had to choose just 5 different ratios, at least 3 of
those would be very close to 70 -- 50, 60, 65, 70, 80 sounds about right.
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.comjavascript:
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Perhaps I am the voice
I'm with Bill.
I have plenty of components. Not going to spend on someone else's. Frame
and fork alone for me.
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 4:43:25 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
The way to expand the market for your frameset is to sell it as a frameset
(frame fork headset), IMO.
On
Be sure to carry the right chain tool.
I stopped to help a cyclist in distress once. His skinny (maybe 10 speed?
possibly 11) chain had snapped. My conventional chain tool sort of worked
after about 20 minutes of tries. We broke about 4 additional links before
getting the chain together
I have an older version of these Fly Fishing Sun Gloves from Patagonia:
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/technical-sun-gloves?p=81730-0
Mine are light, not too hot, and definitely protect my hands from UV rays.
Caveat - I've never been one to wear padded gloves. If you prefer some
easily change my clothes when I get there. This
shirt fills that niche quite well.
Was it worth $82? I don't own enough $82 shirts to compare it to, so
it's hard to say. But I'm very happy with it and would probably buy
another one if this one were lost.
Matthew Snyder
Seattle WA
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My travel tool set is very light and minimal:
- Park multi-tool MT1
- Leatherman Sidekick
- Park travel chain tool
- tire levers
These pretty much cover anything I would want to fix while on the road.
For anything more I would either go to an LBS or find some alternate way
home.
Yeah, if we are talking custom, e.g., custom geometry, then that
really changes things as most CF frames coming out of Taiwan or elsewhere
are pretty much stock production sizes. For custom
carbon, you're looking at a handful of very expensive builders - Calfee,
Parlee and Crumpton top the
As I say above, I paid $3.3k for my lugged steel Spectrum frame and fork,
built by Tom Kellogg and Jeff Duser, two of the most respected custom bike
people out there.
Along with the CF builders you mention, Argonaut is also doing amazing
work. For whatever reason though, CF customs are very
:43 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
Yeah, if we are talking custom, e.g., custom geometry, then that
really changes things as most CF frames coming out of Taiwan or elsewhere
are pretty much stock production sizes. For custom
carbon, you're looking at a handful of very expensive builders
Speaking of Tom Kellogg my uncle is having his spectrum frame from the 90s
repaired after getting hit by a car (torn shoulder but he is ok) and he
said Tom was dropping hints that he is ready to retire soon. so anyone that
was thinking of spectrum or Kellogg custom should maybe think faster,
That bike weighed in at a little over 15lbs, but when a few friends test
road it, they said that bike was very, very stiff to the point of being
uncomfortable! Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires,
probably pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a
Mark, I fully agree that carbon forks and frames are stronger than many
on this list understand.
I wonder when, if ever, there will be a generally available CF fork
accepted for porteur style racks and loads or lowrider touring racks and
loads.
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I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is
smoother than the madone I used to own.
Interesting you should compare your steel frame with the Trek Madone.
I am just about the same height and weight as my nephew. He owns a Trek
Madone which he races in the local club
Bill - Sounds about right.
CF likely will be lighter than a similarly kitted steel. Although per my
message above, if you wanted to do full out loaded touring on a CF bike, I
wonder how thick the tubes (and thus heavy they would have to be).
Custom CF bikes as well as the higher end off
You don't always have the benefit of proper tools and repair parts out
in the field, and sometimes lives depend on getting equipment working.
Best part of Apollo 13 movie was the scene where the ground engineers take
a box of what the astronauts had to work with and helped device a plan to
But I think a long ride like RAAM shows that they are all great materials
for bike riding.
Materials and design that do well in a race, long or short, are proven to
do well in a race. Not for real life.
There are many considerations non-racers have that racers do not. This
cannot be
Are these on tubeless specific rims or something else?
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:02:43 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
This might be useful to some. This month marks a full year of Stan's in
the 700CX28 tubes inside the Parigi Roubaix on the Ram that I finally built
and got on the road
Professional racers' goal is to get from point A to Z faster than their
opponents, get paid a lot of money, get endorsements and get the glory of
besting other quality riders.
For the most part, the rest of us ride expecting the ride to be pleasant
and enjoyable. Professional put up with a
Or even better - belt drive SS.
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:51:01 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
Belt drive/Roholoff comes to mind as a possibility down the road, no
grease, no oiling. Expensive upfront costs but seems like an awesome setup
for worry free riding.
On Apr 14, 2014 8:27 PM,
The Goines poster has found a new home in Seattle. --Matthew
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:57:01 PM UTC-7, Matthew Snyder wrote:
I ordered the David Lance Goines poster from Rivendell when it first
became available. In unRivendellian fashion, the packing was less than
stellar
but also how big the jumps are between gears; the ease of getting from
one gear to the next; and where your favorite gears are.
For me this is not the issue it seems to be for many other riders. The
wide range 1x5 on my commuter / light[er] tour bike with a '90s vintage
Campy OR rear
Turin is swell but pretty far north.
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:38:29 PM UTC-5, Conway Bennett wrote:
Go to Turin. It used to be a co-op but now operated by Lee who started
Lake shoes. Lore has it that back when it was still a co-op Mark Nobilette
and Bruce Gordon learned their trade
not quite fancy-frame-worthy, but certainly very presentable for workshop
display.
Ideally I'd like to pass it along to someone in Seattle to avoid shipping,
but if there are no local takers, I'll send it in whatever way seems
reasonable and cheap.
Matthew Snyder
Seattle WA
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I really like 9 speed for the 36T cassette though. Best bike component to
come out in the last decade or so.
Appears he does no longer, but Jeff Jones for a time modified the 9 into a
6 speed cassette with a 36 (or is it 38? Will have to check) low gear.
The modified cassette works with a
Lloyd at Blue City in Bridgeport started out at Boulevard. He is generally
empathetic to the RBW style.
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:37:04 PM UTC-5, Michael Fleischman wrote:
Anything on the southside / south suburbs? Unfortunately, limited to this
area.
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Hate to pile on, but you are riding dogs for tires. Switch to one of the
quality 650Bs and get back to us.
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But is you want to ride skinny 700s, why buy a Chevoit?
On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:45:14 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
One of the staff at Riv reverse engineered a Hilsen that way. It's a
neat trick for putting spindly-light racer wheels on a lovely lugged
bicycle. You also get to use
I used Berthoud saddles from when first available before switching to
Brooks Cambium last Fall.
The design of the saddle is different from the B-17. Not only thicker, but
as others note somewhat more narrow. The top is flatter as well.
For me the best Berthoud set up was horizontal to the
, Matthew J wrote:
I used Berthoud saddles from when first available before switching to
Brooks Cambium last Fall.
The design of the saddle is different from the B-17. Not only thicker,
but as others note somewhat more narrow. The top is flatter as well.
For me the best Berthoud set up
Mike Kone is a bright guy, but not sure there is a problem here.
I attached a mid size Acorn with a Bordo Granite no problem. On shorter
tours I used a loaded Carradice Super C with hoop. Packed that bag with
clothes, shoes, tools and Minox binoculars (like to star gaze). No
problems.
On
Also, the Berthoud Aspin touring model, Marie Blanc Touring model and the
Mente city saddle have bag loops. The sport riding model does not. Not
sure why Mike said only one model has loops.
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:58:48 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
Mike Kone is a bright guy
I doubt if a single person here is planning to buy this thing, but if you
have a road bike with no clearance for fenders, it could work as a skunk
stripe mitigator.
It's obvioously not going to keep the bike clean, etc.
Agreed. Although even then there are better established options out
Turned out great. I really like the Mixte style mid-tubes.
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for the coffee nut.
If you are one of us, highly recommended.
On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:46:41 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Matthew,
Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so far?
My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part
because the reports
Most gears I have are 1x5. Could not be happier.
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Patrick and Z - Agreed. If you want flat protection and good ride, Stan's
is definitely worth considering.
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:09:10 PM UTC-5, Z wrote:
Peter,
If you're looking for better flat protection w/Hetres, try squirting an
ounce or two of Stan's sealant into your tubes.
How was the front hub modified? I presume drillium conversion?
They look like the set I bought from Peter a few years back. Peter takes
'60s era Gran Compes which were designed only with the larger holes and
drills the smaller holes then polishes so they come out similar to Record
hubs.
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