Messing around online I discovered that Shimano offers 3 speed hubs with
rotor mounts and 135mm OL spacing -- interesting possibility. 32 x 20 with
30 1/2" wheel -- actual current measurement -- gives 49" direct, 65"
overdrive and 37" underdrive (I am assuming Shimano uses the same ratios as
the AW
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> The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm in
> very cold temperatures (for me, very cold means in the teens F). My fingers
> are very sensitive to the cold. I've bought 2 or 3 pai
Fwiw, just a few observations in case they help someone find an ideal bar
shape.
For a medium+ size American man (ideal level tt size is 60 c-c), I've got
relatively short arms and small hands, and yet my favorite bar of all time
is a long reach traditional bend Maes Parallel, precisely because of
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Bling for the bike, about the same cost as the RH.
>
> Back to Adam's point that fork mounted hangers won't work with center pull
> brakes, seems to me someone should make an integrated backing plate/hanger.
> That would nice!
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One factor in reducing front brake cable friction is a gradual, "natural"
bend in the housing between its exit from the bar tape (aero levers, of
course) and where it meets the stop. If your stem is high so that the
housing leaves the bar tape (I'm assuming you use aero levers) far above
the housin
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I should have added: Is this the same as the "Hiro" chuck?
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> Just to be clear, this is the pump head I recently bought from Soma,
> called the "Tanaka" pump head; $24.99. I've gotten mixed reviews about it;
>
v 15, 2023 at 9:44 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> I've been using the old Silca brass chucks for years and they work fine --
> simple, air-tight, secure -- on Presta valves if the gasket is in good
> condition and you know how to us it -- chuck cap sufficiently tight but not
> too tight,
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endell knickers. Thanks
> for the inspiration:-)
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
>
> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:28:12 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> I broke out my oh, so elegant! grey flannel cycling knickers* last Sunday
>> for the ride to church, matched with R
’t think they’d rise high enough in back as you describe.
>
> k.
>
> On Nov 3, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... I have never had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so
> well adapted to pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and
> roomy -
by a fixed-gear cog. Here's a text diagram:
>
> Your current setup has: spokes - spacer - splined cog - lockring
>
> Change it to: spokes - splined cog - spacer - threaded cog
>
> I hope this helps!
> -Wes
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 9:51:46 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moo
t and built a new hub
> into the new wheel. Sorry for not remembering, the bike has been out of my
> life for about eight years.
>
> -W
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 1:17:17 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> Wesley: Sorry, I missed this post in the thread volume.
>>
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That's 1 and *three* (3) ...
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 2:36 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> #1: Don't force yourself; do it in order to enjoy it.
> #2: Very often gently forcing yourself to get out of the door will put you
> on a ride that you will thoroughly enjoy. But don'
Agree with the QR wheels and easy-off/on tires, but I found unplugging and
re-plugging dynohub connectors a very minor part of fixing a flat. Sure,
SON spade connectors are fussy, but they're not *that* fussy, and Shimano's
and SP's system -- a block plug that lines everything up -- is a doddle. I
carry
spare tubes and extra sealant I no longer carry patches. And you don't need
to replenish sealant in tubes, IME, except every 18 or 24 months.
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42 mm Naches Pass with tubes at 30 to 40 psi + OS regular
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I often shop by bike at an Albertson's precisely 1/4 mile door to door by
bike, not merely because the rt is perhaps 3 minutes shorter (it's only .15
mile by foot if I cut across the fitness center parking lot) but because
it's easier to carry 30 lbs home in panniers than by hand, even for .15
mile
l Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 7:50:30 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, not 5 mm, the usual ~2mm Shimano spacer. Actually I think it's a
>>> 9 speed spacer.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 17, 20
f the extra drop so I flipped and rotated the entire assembly until the
> basket leveled. It’s all the same assembly and hardware placement as on
> the Raleigh but with noticeably more flex this time around so it just
> doesn’t feel as robust and may ultimately find a sturdier rack mounted
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Sorry, not 5 mm, the usual ~2mm Shimano spacer. Actually I think it's a 9
speed spacer.
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:09 PM Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Patrick Moore claims to have a 5mm spacer + a 3/32" cog on a hub.
> Assuming his story is accurate, that's a stack up of 7.38mm
o room for chain.
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:18 PM Wesley wrote:
> Ah. Can you not remove the 5mm spacer? That should be enough room for a
> second cog, IMO.
> -W
>
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 3:02:19 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Not mine, said by seller to be
ed in the dropout.
> -Wes
>
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:44:19 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> That's interesting, and after blundering into a few search result pages
>> about money markets and currency conversion I got:
>>
>> http://www.monebike
Reinventing anachronistic technology at 100X the price. Wish I could afford
it!
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 3:43 PM Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Sounds like Patrick Moore is ditching his idea. That's a bummer. I was
> hoping he would eventually pay an expert fabricator to build him a disc
the bike in the stand, throwing a
> foot on the BB and pulling the rim to the front.
>
>
> Since you are going the custom route for this hypothetical bike I figured
> I'd add these possibilities to the mix : )
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrot
not really something
> you want to be adjusting on the fly.
>
> A double chainring setup really is the simplest. It's a quick change and
> adds a few seconds to the process.
>
> If you adopt a constant chain length dual ring/cog setup, sliding dropouts
> (or an EBB) make
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> horizontal dropout (like typical UJBs have)
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> Eric
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> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 6:12 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> Thinking out loud; help me clarify my thoughts.
>>
>> I think of devising a Monocog replacemen
gt; here: One's youth might allow one to get away with muscling into fast road
> riding, steep climbs, etc. at a strong rate, but it's not likely to last
> much into one's older years.
>
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>> One
his bike, IIRC, and when I remarked on it
he told us with enthusiasm that he liked torquing that monster over at low
r's pm.
On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:03 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> George: Physiologies and psychologies differ considerably among riders.
> Me, I *like* standing and torqu
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I rarely agree with Leah (*) but I am one old-school rider who also likes
his saddle slammed back and his gears high, and I blame Grant. I used to be
a spinner -- would maintain 20-22 mph over distance in a 64" gear, back
when I was a pimpled 40-something -- until I started ordering bikes from
Rive
I mean, the *DOS* fw is not made anymore and in any event wasn't made -- am
I right? -- with 2-teeth gaps. (The Dingle isn't either, but I have a
stash.)
On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 4:11 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... The DIngle isn't made anymore and in any event wasn'
And!!! Zests are half the price of Pauls!
On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 2:05 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> IME the problem with the Tektros wasn't the stopping power but the sloppy
> pivots. They stopped about as well as the Pauls but they squealed and
> juddered. The Pauls are mach
ntis on my commuter with Velo Orange
> Zeste brakes and they're amazing. For the $70 I paid, miraculous even.
> Hard to imagine that Pauls would be better.
>
> Will
>
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 5:03:24 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> I swapped Tektro C 720s for
imano ("accept no
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This is very interesting. I use the extralight Naches Pass at 30-35 and
35-40 f/r depending on load, and I feel no flop or sidewall collapse; not
until pressures drop below 20 psi. The NPs do feel more staid, less nimble
in turn-in than the 28 mm Elk Pass, this on the same bikes, but not at all
squ
I laughed; you've got a good memory.
This was one slogan/design my brother put on T shirts (and sold online and
in at least 1 ABQ LBS) 20+ years ago as part of his now defunct and always
very part time "Two Wheel Fetish" bike business. The design had the "O's"
in the form of an old Campy track rin
e. My version was much cheaper! But when
> working for hours in the Dakotas and Minnesota, they were perfect and well
> worth it. Wool still works when damp, and I sometimes used just the outside
> with different liners.
>
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 12:43:27 PM UTC-5 Patrick
There's no way you can pump a road tire high enough to prevent a dented rim
when you hit a sharp-edged pothole (or, around here, 6" expansion cracks)
at a high enough speed. I've done this myself even with tire overinflated.
On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 8:10 PM Piaw Na(藍俊彪) wrote:
> ... If you dented
Good sealant can prevent glass flats. Use a thicker tire or use sealant.
Modern sealants work fine with tubes and tubeless against small holes from
thorns and glass particles. I routinely ride through fields of glass shards
and patches of goatheads on very lightweight tires and -- so far, so good.
Note that at least some modern sealants work very well in at least some
very thin, supple tires. OS *regular* formula works as well or almost as
well in lightweight tubes (70 gram Schwalbe 559X~23 mm tubes) in paper thin
RH Elk Passes, and in lightweight tubes (100 gram Schwalbe 559/584X42mm
tubes)
As with gearing and saddles, so with tires; tastes vary vastly. I know
experienced riders who can't be bothered to figure out their gears; if they
can find a gear that is pretty good in most riding situations, they're
happy -- they look blank when you ask them what rings and cogs they are
using. Li
The trouble with those, besides being bulky looking, is our big temperature
differentials. I can often leave at 9 am at 18*F and come back at 50*F. I
daresay that if I were riding long periods at sub 20* I'd think differently.
On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 9:54 AM Wesley wrote:
> Honestly, Bar Mitts br
Thanks all again. Now the problem is, there are too many damned choices. My
first choice would be that Gander hunters' mitten with the flip-back finger
cover but I can't find it online. I'll have to review the other choices
again, but right now (probably because I just looked at it) I'm leaning at
nd 559 X 60 Big Apples at 15 psi. But handling and rolling resistance ...?
Sorry.
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> site:
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> to 700x48. Have you ever ridden these for comparison? They were originally
> on my list but I'd written them off due to the lack of tread (and in my
> mind, the associated puncture resistance).
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Sheesh, forgot a main point, which is that the Somas have a nice rounded
profile. See again downside in sand compared to squarer, also 50 mm,
Furious Freds.
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The Gander Thinsulate finger flap design would be perfect. Long ago I had
something like that, though not as warm as I need: basically a gauntlet
cycling glove with leather padded palm and half fingers with flip up finger
covers. I'd very much like to get something similar but with more
insulation
raft link. The price is good, but I think I'll look
first for mittens that are less cumbersome than the OR set I had. But link
noted for future reference.
Patrick Moore, who will probably have a late-ish model pair of PI lobsters
for sale before too long.
On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 2:15 PM Patric
put on and take off.
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phone, keys, wallet, they work wonderfully. I had just one jersey with them
-- a retro-copy -- and I wish I'd kept it.
Me, I miss pockets (rear as well as front) when my top doesn't have them.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 9:27
Old times! I remember the Baggins era; nice bags but not as well designed
as the Sackvilles and descendants. I owned a Hoss and an Adam.
I'd have bought the bigger bar bag beausage and all for the Monocog but I
just bought a cheap bar bag so it would be surplus to requirements. But
interesting bit
Oh, forgot to mention that I'm shifting the 44/28 combo with the very same
7400, 7401, 7402 whatever fd and it still works just fine. I had to raise
the fd 2 or 3 mm to clear the 44 but -- said it before -- it all works fine.
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The Vernon Blake article is worth a read:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/epicyclo/albums/72157626583588000
30 lb, 6 speeds with 46/38/24 chainrings welded to the crank spider, 16 and
18 cogs on either side of the hub, and no "change-gear" or chain slack
takeup, instead a roller to keep the chain on
want. I'm running three cogs on a short Capper cassette on one of my 120mm
>>> rear end bikes, but I don't think your Monocog is a 120mm bike. I imagine
>>> there are a number of ways you could run two cogs on your Monocog. You
>>> would just need to decide t
g. Given
> that you've been looking to replace the Monocog with a custom, maybe your
> gearing solution should be integrated with your frame choice.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:50:02 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Too bad that the DOS
currently and readily available? Did Shimano ever make one?
And: are any of these big enough to squeeze 2 3/32 cogs onto?
Does anyone make 2-speed freehubs/fh bodies? I did not find any.
Patrick Moore, tempted to put a 17/19 Dingle onto his SA ASC threaded
driver -- but not worthwhile since the
Man, I'd be interested -- to use it as a 12-28 10-speed -- but even with 11
cogs they leave out the all-important 16 t. Very odd. I was exerting a
great deal of anguish about that gap back in the 7-speed days.
On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 5:51 PM Kushan wrote:
> Looking to part ways with an 11-speed
+1. Nice and different.
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> markedly different build than i've seen on a homer. thanks for posting.
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>
> You are correct, the very long effective toptubes of Clems makes it
> possible to run a sweepback bar without sitting bolt upright. Leah (Bicycle
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I'm about to comment on bike clothing/fashion, and that makes me chuckle
because my 22-year-old daughter often jokes about"Dad fashions" -- I still
have baggy pleated khakis from the late 1980s or early '90s. OTOH, one of
my daughter's cur
is a modified XT rapid rise. There's no return
>>>>> spring inside, from a desmodromic exploration. I was able to adjust one
>>>>> limit screw so it hits the 16T cog. The other limit screw was too short,
>>>>> so I replaced it with a long sock
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+1. This is also the easiest way to tuck pants into socks.
I have some neoprene "Leg Shield" cycling gaiters that cover the pants legs
up to about an 11" height and close with velcro. I daresay too warm for
summer but perhaps there are lightweight ones available?
Leg Shield suggests wearing their
Are the rims and pads clean?
Are the rims new? I've found that a hundred miles or so of not-too-clean
riding surfaces can do a lot to "match" pads to rims.
I had horrible squeal and front judder with Tektro CR 720s on my then-new
2020 Matthews (26" wheels on largish frame, so very long steerer).
Perhaps enlarge the hole in the shifter a wee bit?
On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 6:31 PM Russell Duncan wrote:
> I use current era Campagnolo shift cables for both Campagnolo and Shimano
> derailleur shifters, including on my bicycles equipped with Simplex
> retro-friction down tube shifters.
>
> Russe
r an ideal climbing
range. But probably better to use my second AM hub.
Anyway, I might be persuaded ...
On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 10:46 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> Talk about multispeeding RoadUnos and Quickbeams has me chucking smugly to
> myself as I ride my 2020 Matthews clone of the Riv Cu
I'd like to talk.
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There's no need to flood the list with multiple posts for a single thread.
You can consolidate your photos in a single post to make it easier on
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"extralite" -- saves 100 grams, 800 gr versus 900 gr for 700C -- and for
their price and their weight they are very good; they roll well (for their
bulk and thickness). But not much sand traction, tho' I liked them for
all-round
I'm curious why an IGH with single ring and single cog is more antithetical
to the Quickbeam idea than multiple rings and multiple cogs.
My 1999 Joe Starck gofast fixed gear 26" wheel road bike has several
wheelsets, of which 2 are (1) the "main" wheelset: Phil QR fixed/fixed hub
with 17/19t Dingl
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Yes, interesting -- *different!* -- site. It was this site that prompted me
to try off road fixed and then off road ss.
One of my favorite articles was the one describing the conversion of a KHS
track bike to fat tire fixed gear off road use.
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Thanks, Jason. I looked them up on the Wolf Tooth site and as far as I can
tell they are made only for mountain bike bars; are yours a road bike bar
model, or did you just force them on to the bigger bar?
About that Quickbeam: I know from experience that you can list and relist a
very nice bike an
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Thanks for re-posting; lovely photos.
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>>> Hmmm, okay, I warned you that I'm new at this! Let me try again... Do
>>> these show up?
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