Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-16 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
John, you are correct. I misspoke. The middle ‘X’ on my photo is the median nerve. There goes my ‘my armchair expert’ status. My damage is mostly to both ulnar nerves, which is why I don’t like the Albastache, but my other nerves are affected too. On a hard ride, the wrong handlebar, tire

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-16 Thread Surlyprof
Clayton, The center is actually the Median nerve. The Radial runs closer to the ball of the thumb. Although there are several repetitive stress injuries that effect the hand, carpal tunnel issues effect the median nerve and can be brought on by trauma and repetitive stress (grocery clerks

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks J, but I have had three back surgeries too, and their stem isn’t tall enough, due to the fact I bought a smaller frame than Grant would recommend, so I can run a suspension seat post. I have a 100 mm Nitto dirt drop, all the way up, to get the right fit. Rather funny looking but it

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread Justin, Oakland
You can use carbon 31.8 bars on your Atlantis with one of the VO 31.8 quill stems. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Vibration is now my enemy. I have two carbon bikes, both with carbon handlebars which are very absorbent but air pressure is the thing that affects my hands the most. The higher the air pressure in my tires, the quicker my hand(s) go. I was kinda amazed at the difference in speed that my

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
It's happened to me with every flat-style (i.e., non-drop) bar I've ever used. On 11/15/18 2:41 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: It's interesting.  The only two bikes in my fleet that give me occasional numbness both have flat bars.  On my mountain bike I'll get numbness on my two smallest fingertips

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread Bill Lindsay
It's interesting. The only two bikes in my fleet that give me occasional numbness both have flat bars. On my mountain bike I'll get numbness on my two smallest fingertips (pinky and ring finger) on both hands if I'm mountain biking for more than ~2 hours. On my Rosco Road I'm running

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ok, thanks Patrick!\Clay Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Thursday, November 15, 2018, 11:19 AM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Clayton, To post photos, switch to Desktop (bottom of the page), attache file. With abandon, Patrick, who has never experienced numbness with

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Clayton, To post photos, switch to Desktop (bottom of the page), attache file. With abandon, Patrick, who has never experienced numbness with Albastache bars except when he should have worn mittens. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
The nerve location is the same on most everyone. There are variations, but the general location is the same. The neurologist said to not put pressure there to avoid nerve damage, so I assume it would be the same for all cyclists or anyone who might suffer from repetitive impacts in that area.

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread Bill Lindsay
Thanks Clayton. That context makes sense. In your 'armchair expert' opinion, is the Albastache a fundamentally bad handlebar for everyone, given that everyone has roughly the same hand anatomy? Or is it mainly bad for those people whose hands are already wrecked from the sum of their previous

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread Ron Mc
you're funny, Joe On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 12:47:19 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I suspect it was a variation on the old doctor joke. > > "Doctor, it hurts when I ride like this." > > 'Don't ride like that!' > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-15 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
E. I chose “E”. The surgeon drew little “x’s“ on my hand and the surgeon said ‘No pressure here.’ I came home and went to work on a bar swap project and tried: Nitto 13’s off road drop, Salsa woodchipper, Albastache, Ahearn, Sycip singles bar, Carver Ti bar and original WTB drops from the

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-14 Thread Joe Bernard
I suspect it was a variation on the old doctor joke. "Doctor, it hurts when I ride like this." 'Don't ride like that!' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Clayton said: "My hand surgeon told me no" I'm not sure what 'no' means without any context. Do you mean a. Your hand surgeon personally evaluated the Albastache handlebar and determined that it is a bad handlebar for all human hands b. Your hand surgeon evaluated the Albastache handlebar and

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-14 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
My hand surgeon told me no. The albastache puts pressure on the ulnar nerve directly in almost all hand positions. Also no matter how I set them up, brake access sucks. I couldn’t get the levers low enough. Three unsuccessful carpal tunnel surgeries later, I actually listen now. Clayton DDD

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Please report on the Albastaches. (And what problems did the original moustache bar cause you?) On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 5:37 PM Ray Varella wrote: > I had the original mustache bars on a commuter with barend shifters. > I really liked that combo for riding in traffic. Braking was super strong >

[RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-11 Thread Ray Varella
I had the original mustache bars on a commuter with barend shifters. I really liked that combo for riding in traffic. Braking was super strong and quickly accessible and shifting required almost no loss of attentiveness. Great attributes for riding in traffic. I have a pair of Albastache bars

[RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-10 Thread 'Forrest' via RBW Owners Bunch
I’ve had three bikes with Albastache bars (only one now, though), and two with Moustache (none at the moment, though). I really like the Albastache a lot. Multiple hand positions, easy access to shifters and to the brakes. Great leverage for climbing and nice aero position when you need it. An

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-06 Thread Patrick Moore
FWIW, I've found that M-bars are most comfortable, for me, when there is adequate reach from saddle: either low enough, or at least far-out enough to more or less mimic my drop bars. When I tried "high and close" I hated them. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > (Sorry, I

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-06 Thread Patrick Moore
(Sorry, I forget your name.) I'm interested in hearing of the "things you didn't love" about the original Moustache bar, and how the Albastache solves these problems. I personally find all bars -- and I've used a huge selection -- except standard, road-type drop bars, uncomfortable for more than a

Re: [RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-06 Thread Forrest Harvey
I have albastache bars on my BMC > On Nov 6, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Doug H. wrote: > > I put Albastache bars on a Trek 520 that I was stretched out on and they > transformed the bike. I’m a fan of Albastache bars. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-06 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Here, about a fith.3 of the way down: https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/ultra-variety-pack-anagramers-theft-hhh-rosco-bebe-bike-other “Our worst-selling handlebar is the Albastache. Drop-bar people don't take it seriously, and non-drop bar people think it's too much

[RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-06 Thread Doug H.
I put Albastache bars on a Trek 520 that I was stretched out on and they transformed the bike. I’m a fan of Albastache bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] No love for the Albastache?

2018-11-06 Thread masmojo
I reading somewhere that the Albastache is the least popular handlebar!? Having run a Moustache bar for 20+ years & now the Albastache since shortly after they appeared I am somewhat perplexed??? The original moustache was fairly popular & the new bar has all the originals charms, but none of