[RBW] Re: Amos/San Marcos

2012-05-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I have one in the middling 54cm size that will be available for test rides on Thursday when we have our Just Ride book-signin' and meat fiesta. Unless someone buys it first. I agree with the above description of the handling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Amos/San Marcos

2012-05-28 Thread rcnute
For what it's worth for those wondering about sizing I'm about 5'9, 84cm PBH and the 54 fit nicely. The 56 Hillborne fits too but I would need a stem about 1-2cm shorter. Ryan On May 28, 12:37 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I have one in the middling 54cm size that

[RBW] Re: Amos/San Marcos

2012-05-26 Thread Frank
@ FreeRange? Any comparisons come to mind? On Friday, May 25, 2012 7:20:26 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: Just test rode one. What a great bike! Pretty too. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the

[RBW] Re: Amos/San Marcos

2012-05-26 Thread rcnute
Yup. Hard to compare--it rides just like a Rivendell (unsurprising). It was kind of like a Rambouillet but felt a bit snappier. Not so laid back/stable as the Hillborne. Ryan On May 26, 3:15 pm, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: @ FreeRange? Any comparisons come to mind? On Friday, May

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread EricP
Guess I see the undertube as marketing in this case. Not to keep the bike different than a MCFB but to do something different than Surly, Salsa, or Raleigh. Personally, I see this bike competing more with the Pacer, Casseroll or Port Townsend than a typical off the shelf racing bike. And maybe

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread newenglandbike
It'll be a good looking, cool bike either way. But, I think if the San Marcos is going to have a double TT, they should just go ahead and add rack mounts and double eyelets front and rear. -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Ray Shine
Matt has a good point. And, rack mounts would serve a greater purpose than the 2TT. From: newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 5:12 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: AMOS update It'll

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Mike
Yeah, I tend to agree. I don't mind the double TT but if you're gonna overbuild it why not just make it more rack/load friendly? It doesn't need to be as sturdy as a Saga but maybe in-between that and their ES sport road bike. On Apr 18, 5:12 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Mike
On Apr 18, 7:24 am, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote: This is too easy, we all know that the guys looking at $6K carbon bikes are never going to go for rack mounts:) Good Luck! Dude, I doubt people looking at $6k carbon bikes are the target audience for this bike anyway. This bike with it's

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Shaun Meehan
I guess I don't really take Grant's comment that this is the kind of bike guys who buy $6,000 carbon frames should've gotten as an assertion that RBW is marketing the bike to that guy. I take it more as a commentary on the fact that many of the guys who buy those bikes would be much better off

[RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread grant
The Amos...I'm not sure when it'll come out. I hear, from Merry Sales, that it'll be about a monthbut I know from experience that it could be three. It won't hit with a big splash anyway---the last I heard, MS was going to bring in only fifteen each of the 54, 59, and 63; and of those fifteen,

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Ray Foss
not to beat a dead horse... but the double top tube road bike is just plain marketing schtick, nothing else. I just got back from a 2 week bike tour in the Yucatan and took many pictures of bikes owned by economically poor locals. Nearly every bike had double top tubes. Ray Lisbon, CT --

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread CycloFiend
Grant - Thanks for adding some behind-the-scenes facts to the discussion. The San Marcos and Roadeo have both seemed like four-wheel-drive Ferraris to me - fat, plush suspension slung below a rocket sled frame. It's always interesting to see how these projects evolve. - J -- Jim Edgar

[RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread rperks
on a bike that could conceivably be ridden by a 290-lb rider, a little conservativeness is not a bad thing This is something all of us as rivendell consumers have to come to terms with. The potential for riders of this stature is real and a constraint that production bike designers face and

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 15:04 -0700, rperks wrote: If I want a road bike, no matter what the percieved light and fast marketing schtik is, it will likely be built for the potential heavy weight. I think it's pretty safe to say your LBS carbon fiber racing bike with the lightly spoked wheels and

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread John Speare
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 15:04 -0700, rperks wrote: If I want a road bike, no matter what the percieved light and fast marketing schtik is, it will likely be built for the potential heavy weight. I think it's pretty

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 16:28 -0700, John Speare wrote: I agree that it probably wasn't designed for a 290'er, but it better be designed for a 220'er at least. I see lots of big big dudes around here on fly-weight carbon bikes with low-spoke-count wheels. I wonder how many of them are using

[RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread EricP
Not me. In fact,that's another reason why I've never used anything with that name on it. Other than a peanut butter wrench. Then again, because of my size, won't ride a bike with Tange Prestige tubing, either. Yes, the modern stuff could, probably, hopefully, take my weight. But am not going

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread William
Eric I shared your reaction to the 2TT on the San Marcos. A second top tube sounds very much unnecessary and out of place on a 59cm road bike that is sturdy enough for fenders but not racks. I'll keep saving for a Roadeo or a custom (or the next thing I can't live without). On Apr 17, 7:13 am,

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread bfd
On Apr 17, 8:01 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: Me, too.  The second top tube is a deal killer.  Sorry to be grousy but it's a dumb idea except maybe for cargo bikes. Agree. I can see 650b for smaller size, but the 700c bikes getting a second top tube is too much! I don't get

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread newenglandbike
I guess there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it probably works better on a mountain/all-purpose bike. I was also drawn to the plain-gauge

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread bfd
On Apr 17, 9:09 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I guess there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it probably works better

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Ron MH
It's basically a roady frame, not a country bike, not a touring bike, just a really nice and versatile road frame kind of the way the Rambouillet was, and the Roadeo would be if it were a hair heavier and had rack mounts. A ROAD bike with clearance for tires up to 33mm with fenders, or 35mm

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread cyclotourist
Nailed it. On 4/17/11, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: bfd I think you are taking your point a little far. Grant/Rivendell is not marketing the San Marcos at all, much less marketing it towards the mainstream racing bike customer. Merry Sales and Soma aren't even 'marketing' the San

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Jeremy Till
I'd ride one. I wonder if a 59 or a 63 would fit me better. Unfortunately, probably not in the cards for me financially anytime soon. Although maybe i can do a frame on layaway. On Apr 17, 7:13 am, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any mention of the Soma/Amos update on

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread rob markwardt
The double top tube is becoming a rivendell signature. I prefer the cream head tube. On Apr 17, 11:10 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Nailed it. On 4/17/11, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: bfd I think you are taking your point a little far.  Grant/Rivendell is

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 11:40 -0700, rob markwardt wrote: The double top tube is becoming a rivendell signature. I prefer the cream head tube. +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Philip Williamson
I was disappointed by the undertube as well, especially on a bike identified as road-only. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Apr 17, 10:47 am, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: It's basically a roady frame, not a country bike, not a touring bike, just a really nice and versatile

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Bruce
OTOH, I love the look of the diagatube and would ride it on a road bike any day. From: Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread cyclotourist
: OTOH, I love the look of the diagatube and would ride it on a road bike any day. From: Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update I

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Michael_S
, 2011 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update I was disappointed by the undertube as well, especially on a bike identified as road-only. Philip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Bill
What no one is talking about yet is how it will be built out, component-wise. Sure, some will go the full-Riv route - Nitto noodles, bar-end shifters, Sugino triple, B17 saddle, etc., at least those who read this list and buy it frame-only from Riv if it's sold that way. I can see many shops who

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/17/11 11:25 AM, Jeremy Till at jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I'd ride one. I wonder if a 59 or a 63 would fit me better. Yeah, I'm actually a bit curious as to how the specific sizing on this bicycle will turn out. I've ridden one, and it was a pretty spritely little beast.

Re: [RBW] Re: Amos

2010-12-29 Thread Anne Paulson
Nice bike. This is the bike you recommend to your friends when they want something sensible and fun for less than $2k. On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 8:00 PM, MannyAcosta manueljohnaco...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/amos/70-999 -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of

[RBW] Re: Amos

2010-12-28 Thread eflayer
in a recent riv message GP said they are on their way. like maybe springtime. he spoke of possible repaint and rebadge and resell, but no decision as of about two weeks ago. i bet he springs something interesting on it in the next couple of months. different paint and riv decals could get us all

[RBW] Re: Amos

2010-12-28 Thread MannyAcosta
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/amos/70-999 On the site they said it might come around Mayish. check it. On Dec 28, 9:06 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Anyone have new details on the Amos/San Marco?  Will Rivendell be selling the Soma version or repainting/renaming it for themselves?

[RBW] Re: AMOS news

2010-12-17 Thread eflayer
too bad no photo of the one i rode with an actual matching colored fork. and, at least for now, no mention of double top tubes. yea! seems that would add a chunk to cost anyway...and nonsense on a lightweight road bike. may is a long way off. On Dec 17, 7:24 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS / San Marcos Update?

2010-09-09 Thread CycloFiend
on 9/8/10 11:18 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Jim, you looking to add to your quiver? The word quiver always cracks me up... don't know why. The Roadeo felt like a Lamborghini (yeah, like I've driven one of those...) with a Cadillac (ditto) ride. Imperfect analogy, but you get the

[RBW] Re: AMOS / San Marcos Update?

2010-09-09 Thread RoadieRyan
Thanks for the udpate Sean I have been wondering too and checking the Soma site a couple times a week for updates. 2011 just gives me more time to save ;-) On Sep 8, 6:20 pm, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote: I emailed Soma Fabrications. They are currently awaiting the full size run of

[RBW] Re: AMOS / San Marcos Update?

2010-09-08 Thread William
If you call Riv Headquarters, I'm sure they'd be delighted to talk with you. 1(800)345-3918 On Sep 8, 10:13 am, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote: Cyclofiend's last update seems to be from January:http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=414 I am really really interested in this bike.

[RBW] Re: AMOS / San Marcos Update?

2010-09-08 Thread Mike
Jim, you looking to add to your quiver? --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Amos?

2010-04-20 Thread sjauch
It's going to be pink. On Apr 20, 12:22 pm, D. Goff dbg...@mac.com wrote: Any new rumors on the Amos? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Amos?

2010-04-20 Thread Darin G.
Enough gossip like that and you might force HQ to put out some clarification. I did almost fall over though. On Apr 20, 2:43 pm, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: It's going to be pink. On Apr 20, 12:22 pm, D. Goff dbg...@mac.com wrote: Any new rumors on the Amos? -- You received this

[RBW] Re: AMOS

2010-03-22 Thread D. Goff
This looks like a fun bike. Good news indeed. D.G. On Mar 21, 6:14 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey did people notice this little tidbit in Grant's most recent post? Good news for those hoping to get an AMOS. We're expecting AMOS No.2 within a month. It's the SOMA bike we designed