[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-05-05 Thread John Hawrylak
Dave & Others Back in around 2000, the mad cow event was going thru England resulting in much younger cows coming to market and their hides being thinner (younger = thinner hides). I do remember a reference to someone in Brooks being concerned the hide thickness was approaching their minimum

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-05-05 Thread Lester Lammers
I stand corrected. I won't believe everything I read on the internet. On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-4, Rivendell GM Dave wrote: > > I asked Brooks about thicknesses. > > Steven Green, factory manager who has been with Brooks for almost 40 years > responded: > > > > > > *There is

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-05-04 Thread Ray Varella
That’s an A+ response if there ever was one @Dave. I wonder if different breeds of cattle produce varying degrees of supple leather. It’s possible that as cattle have been line bred for higher butterfat production or better marbling in steaks, the stiffness of the hides may have inadvedently

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-05-04 Thread Dave at Rivendell
I asked Brooks about thicknesses. Steven Green, factory manager who has been with Brooks for almost 40 years responded: *There is absolutely no truth in this at all! We have always specified, to my knowledge, 5.5mm to 6 mm as the target thickness. We do occasionally receive leather

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-05-01 Thread Ron Mc
My daughter hated the small rivets on her B17 Imperial. I have Select on 3 bikes, and a Swallow with the small rivets on a 4th - but no worries there, I love the Swallow. Swallow has become my favorite Brooks for the right riding position, because they are the most invisible.

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-29 Thread Tom Norton
Interesting! My wife's B17 had the steel rivets and it was causing her discomfort. I just recently removed the steel rivets on 2 B17's and replaced them with copper rivets. Now all our Brooks have the copper rivets and they really are more comfortable. -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks Lester, I misspoke. I was sure it was Selle Italia. I had the first word right Clayton DirtDance! On Saturday, April 28, 2018 4:43 PM, Lester Lammers wrote: https://www.brooksengland.com/en_us/timeline "2002 Brooks is bought by Italian saddle

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread Lester Lammers
https://www.brooksengland.com/en_us/timeline "2002 Brooks is bought by Italian saddle manufacturer Selle Royal, who own the company to the present day." On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 8:29:53 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > When were they bought out? Who owns it now? -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread Eric Norris
Could you try hammering the edges down with a small ball peen hammer? –Eric N > On Apr 28, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Carla Waugh wrote: > > I had a Brooks saddle that had the same issue and I had to give it away > because one of the rivets was raised to much and they would

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I have one that the left side ruvet hurt me after about 500 miles. I think I proofhided and all was well, or loostebing the seat tube bolt slightly and adjusting the saddle nose a little left or right was the fix. Cant remember for sure. One thing for sure is Brooks saddles seem to change a

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread Carla Waugh
I had a Brooks saddle that had the same issue and I had to give it away because one of the rivets was raised to much and they would not warrant the saddle so I carefully tried to sand the rivet down which wasn’t enough for me.The person I gave it to wears jeans so he has made do with it. --

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Selle Italia bought Brooks. Clayton On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 5:29:53 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > When were they bought out? Who owns it now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread Brad
I used to always ride with my butt hanging off the back of my B17s. I didn't think too much about fit- I'd push the saddle all the way back on the rails, use a 9cm stem, and everything felt fine. Then I ended up on a bike with a really long top tube and loved the fit (turns out I have really

[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread Lum Gim Fong
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[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

2018-04-28 Thread Lester Lammers
Is your B17 rather new? Brooks was bought out and the new owners started using thinner leather that had issues. There are posts about this on other forums. I'm not sure if they have changed. On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 9:31:43 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote: > > I use a B17, and when I climb or