Re: [RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-17 Thread Peter Morgano
Ok, I am coming into this late but why the LOTR restrictions? If that was the case why dont they have to pay huge money to use the name rivendell? I am sure there is a story I am just ignorant of. Oh and shame Smoothie is taken by SOMA, that would have been a shweet name for the bike. On Fri, Ja

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2012-01-17 Thread Mike B
Jacobus Fanciscus Thorpe I think this should put an end to further discussion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tDRTxwmgI6

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2012-01-13 Thread Philip Williamson
Excellent thought. More famous than Quickbeam, so probably off the table. I think of Mark Abele's grey Rivendells when I think of a bike called "Shadowfax." Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Jan 13, 4:54 pm, Bill Carter wrote: > Too bad about the LOTR restriction, by the way. Woul

Re: [RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-13 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 13, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Leslie wrote: > > On Friday, January 13, 2012 7:54:54 PM UTC-5, Bill Carter wrote: > Too bad about the LOTR restriction, by the way. Wouldn't "Shadowfax" > be a terrific bike name? Lord of the horses of Rohan and Gandalf the > White's noble steed. > > On Jan 13,

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2012-01-13 Thread Leslie
On Friday, January 13, 2012 7:54:54 PM UTC-5, Bill Carter wrote: > > Too bad about the LOTR restriction, by the way. Wouldn't "Shadowfax" > be a terrific bike name? Lord of the horses of Rohan and Gandalf the > White's noble steed. > > On Jan 13, 7:46 pm, Bill Carter wrote: > > The Sackville

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2012-01-13 Thread Bill Carter
Too bad about the LOTR restriction, by the way. Wouldn't "Shadowfax" be a terrific bike name? Lord of the horses of Rohan and Gandalf the White's noble steed. On Jan 13, 7:46 pm, Bill Carter wrote: > The Sackvilles were quite grasping and obnoxious, disliked by both > Bilbo and Frodo.  One of Gr

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2012-01-13 Thread Bill Carter
The Sackvilles were quite grasping and obnoxious, disliked by both Bilbo and Frodo. One of Grant's more tongue-in-cheek allusions I suspect. On Jan 12, 11:55 am, Ryan Ray wrote: > I was expressing my regret that I didn't buy a bag when they were called > Baggins when he corrected me. "Actually t

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2012-01-12 Thread Ryan Ray
I was expressing my regret that I didn't buy a bag when they were called Baggins when he corrected me. "Actually the Sackvilles were another family in the Shire." Ahhh. All is well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To vie

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2012-01-10 Thread ascpgh
To make both an American citation and recognize cycling prowness of Eddy Merckx I suggest the Alferd Packer, a Roadeo sequelae. ANDY Pittsburgh On Jan 7, 12:25 am, Leslie wrote: > On Friday, January 6, 2012 5:19:36 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: > > > This is important.  I work with Native people, and

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2012-01-09 Thread TSW
These lands were once part of Spanish America- lots of hispanic names available too. I think individuals, or dogs, can be filled with fewer landmines. The whole Middle Earth thing is an interesting path (that got the kabash from the Tolkien Estate), for as anyone who's pored over the Readers know

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2012-01-09 Thread Scotty
*Abiaka- Seminole Indian medicine man* Though his exploits were not as well publicized, Seminole medicine man Abiaka may have been more important to the internal Seminole war machine than Osceola. Abiaka was a powerful spiritual leader who used his "medicine" to stir Seminole warriors into a

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2012-01-09 Thread Bill Carter
I agree with Jeremy and Geoff. This has been one of the more interesting discussions on the forum in quite a while, but Jeremy's suggestion is the best of the bunch. I hope Riv will at least consider looking into it. As Patrick mentions, there are many beautiful Native American tribal names and

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2012-01-08 Thread Geoff
Hi Jeremy, Your quote(partial): " I would say that the best way to do it would be to research the peoples native to Rivendell's stomping grounds; maybe use one of the native names for Mt. Diablo, to pay tribute to the terrain that has shaped Rivendell bikes for years." Just mho, but I think th

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2012-01-08 Thread Jeremy Till
Looking forward to the name as well. I have faith in Grant et al to come up with a good one...but I have to say, it does seem like they've been boxing with one hand tied behind their back since they can't use Middle Earth names anymore. Quickbeam, Legolas, Bombadil--not to mention Baggins bags

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2012-01-08 Thread Frank
"Elmer Templeton"? Is that it? I'm guessing there's an Oregon Trail-Ezra Meeker tie-in of some sort given the ethotic (that should be a word) confluence of the RB bike and the native regional influence. And since you guys already passed on the whole Modoc / Kintpuash (Captain Jack) bit, it must

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2012-01-08 Thread Peter Pesce
How bout "Last of the Mohican's"? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6HfJ2gRJYMcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunc

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2012-01-07 Thread Philip Williamson
I'm rooting for "King Philip's War" as a bike name. On Jan 7, 9:13 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > Ya know, Riv Chica Warrior would be a GREAT mixte.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners

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2012-01-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Ya know, Riv Chica Warrior would be a GREAT mixte.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aloJIo4-l8IJ. To post to this group, send email

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2012-01-07 Thread Liesl
for the name, that is! -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

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2012-01-07 Thread Liesl
" Just reporting that there's a name out there that I betevery one of you (yes, pal Liesl, justifiably famed Riv Chica Warrior (uh- oh!) included) will like. Seriously, a real goody." I have great trust and can't wait. -Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subsc

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2012-01-07 Thread grant
Ask any living relatives--I wanted to BE an Indian when I was a kid. Read all about them, was one for Halloween a lot. Know they got super shafted. Don't feel personally responsible for that, but am no less ashamed on behalf of us anybodys for it for being out of the loop. Still like Rosco Bubbe, B

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2012-01-07 Thread Joe Bernard
I kinda doubt anyone considers "Redskins" an appropriate moniker these days - which G mentioned - so to relate it to the topic of Indian names he might use is a little silly. Correlating names to cigarette sales is a bit much, also. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

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2012-01-07 Thread George Schick
"...I'd stick to animal names. Saluki was a great name..." Hey, hey, hey! Can it be my little Havanese? His name is Kozmo. On Jan 7, 12:21 pm, hobie wrote: > Don't some native american tribes now own gambling casinos? They sure sell > alot of cigarettes. "If you can't lickem you might as well

Re: [RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-07 Thread hobie
Don't some native american tribes now own gambling casinos? They sure sell alot of cigarettes. "If you can't lickem you might as well join em". I'd stick to animal names. Saluki was a great name. Check out the great Youtube videos of these dogs running. We all know how well GPs bikes ride. A wor

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2012-01-07 Thread William
Leaving aside the political considerations and treating names of bikes as just names of bikes, for some reason I find super long bicycle names endearing. Kona named a cruiser after the tiny fish "humuhumunukunukuapua'a". The Native American placename to fill that spot is clear: "Touch not a

Re: [RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The southeast has some of the most beautiful Indian names: Chattahoochee, Amicalola, Hiawassee, Tallulah, Waleska. Monongahela from Pennsylvania -- not to mention Allegheny and Appalachia. Nazlini, Kayenta, Chilchinbito, Teec nos poz, To'Hajiilee (with the Navajo glottal stop), Tohatchi, Dennehot

Re: [RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-07 Thread Peter Morgano
How about more animal names equus? Cimarron? On Jan 6, 2012 10:03 PM, "Allingham II, Thomas J" < thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googl

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2012-01-07 Thread Marty
If the kids' bike re-surfaces, I think Minnehaha sounds about right because kids fall a lot. (OK - so you have to be from Minneapolis to get that one.) Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the w

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2012-01-07 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
"Never apologize, and never explain. It's a sign of weakness." I found your post thought-provoking. On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:26 AM, "Leslie" wrote: > What did I post last night?!?! > > My apologies! I get to thinking, then writing, and don't stop I start > to build foundations of point

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2012-01-07 Thread Bill Carter
Thanks for pointing that out, I'd missed it. I doubt he'd use the name "Hiawatha" itself out of consideration for Jim Thill, but it sounds like he may be playing with the idea of using one out of the Longfellow work. It would certainly go along with the use of "Rivendell" and various product name

Re: [RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-07 Thread Leslie
What did I post last night?!?! My apologies! I get to thinking, then writing, and don't stop I start to build foundations of points, and never return to finish them... I'll refrain from late-night postings, and put such on a blog somewhere instead... Hope I didn't upset anyone. -L --

Re: [RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-07 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Grant did in the original Blug post. On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:51 AM, "Bill Carter" wrote: > I'm surprised no one in this discussion has mentioned one of Grant's > favorite literary characters, Hiawatha. > > On Jan 6, 11:47 pm, Liesl wrote: >> On Jan 6, 10:41 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> My 2

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2012-01-07 Thread Bill Carter
I'm surprised no one in this discussion has mentioned one of Grant's favorite literary characters, Hiawatha. On Jan 6, 11:47 pm, Liesl wrote: > On Jan 6, 10:41 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > > > My 2 cents is..I think Native-American traditions and names and such are > > very cool, and worthy of honor

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2012-01-07 Thread newenglandbike
I went to college in a town called Amherst- as awful a name, due to its history, as any word or name that has been appropriated from Native American language.But it's just a name, and better that it be used and not forgotten by the general public than otherwise. -- You received this m

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2012-01-06 Thread Leslie
On Friday, January 6, 2012 5:19:36 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: > > This is important. I work with Native people, and appropriation of > culture by Euro-Americans without asking is just not a good thing. Note > that the University of North Dakota officially discontinued its use of the > Fighting Sio

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2012-01-06 Thread Liesl
On Jan 6, 10:41 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > My 2 cents is..I think Native-American traditions and names and such are > very cool, and worthy of honor on a bicycle. I hope Grant doesn't get > spooked out of it by people claiming he's disrespecting them in some way. > Last I heard, stars 'n' stripes mo

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2012-01-06 Thread Joe Bernard
My 2 cents is..I think Native-American traditions and names and such are very cool, and worthy of honor on a bicycle. I hope Grant doesn't get spooked out of it by people claiming he's disrespecting them in some way. Last I heard, stars 'n' stripes motifs on bikes was considered a celebration o

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2012-01-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
The Wampanoag name of the leader of the Native American Indian side in King Philip's War against the new England colonists - the bloodiest in New England history - was Metacomet. He wasn't the most admirable character, according to conventional history, but he did fight to the death in a losing

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2012-01-06 Thread islaysteve
I was thinking along the same lines. (My local football team is the Redskins, if you know what i mean...Not quite the same, No, worse). Thanks for putting it into words with concrete experience to back them up Liesl. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

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2012-01-06 Thread Liesl
On Jan 6, 11:07 am, TSW wrote: > Are these tribes still extant?  I wonder what it'd be like for a > member of a tribe to see a bike named after his or her people.  Would > it be like seeing: > > "FS: 56cm Englishman" > "Anyone put Hetres on a German?" > "I really regret selling my Japanese.  My ne

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2012-01-06 Thread Peter Pesce
I don't think GP will like it, but I think "Chief" would be great. The long and laid-back nature of bike makes me think of someone who's entitled to take their time... The back-up bars also remind me of this: http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/experience/history/pages/vintage-news.aspx And

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2012-01-06 Thread EricP
One problem as I see it with that name- "How was the ride?" "Arrowing." (With apologies to Yellow Submarine.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jan 6, 10:59 am, John Price wrote: > I'm with Robert and Joe on this one - Arrowhead or something along > those lines.  I think that'd be a very cool name and

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2012-01-06 Thread George Schick
Well, this'll give away my own NE Indiana roots, but I'll opt for "Little Turtle." He was Miami Tribe leader during the early settling of the upper Midwest and figured into the French-Indian War and the War of 1812. I especially liked him because he was clever enough to realize that he could char

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2012-01-06 Thread TSW
Are these tribes still extant? I wonder what it'd be like for a member of a tribe to see a bike named after his or her people. Would it be like seeing: "FS: 56cm Englishman" "Anyone put Hetres on a German?" "I really regret selling my Japanese. My new Canadian just isn't the same." "Stolen Egyp

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2012-01-06 Thread John Price
I'm with Robert and Joe on this one - Arrowhead or something along those lines. I think that'd be a very cool name and a refreshing change (in my humble opinion) from the oddball person names Rivendell has been using of late. (Give me "Saluki" any day over "A. Homer Hilsen" - but then I have a ve

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2012-01-06 Thread Allan in Portland
Those are nice ones. I really like Bois Forte. However, contra the Calumet example, if it's still solely associated with the tribe it may not be available. And this is my last one (ok, no promises ;-)) if Tippecanoe is too cute sounding, may I suggest Wabash. Terre haute (high ground), -Allan

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2012-01-05 Thread Stonehog
There are a couple of Northern MN tribes that may qualify good naming. While Fond Du Lac may be more steel friendly in that they are in the "iron range" county of Cloquet near Duluth, I prefer the Bois Forte name for its translation as "strong wood". Seems to fit the steel/leather product motif

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2012-01-05 Thread Allan in Portland
Ugh. Of course you'll have to put up with the repeated miss-spellings of it on the interwebs. Could give eBay and Craigslist bloodhounds something to keep themselves doubly busy with. ...shouldda been Tippecanoe -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou