[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-06 Thread EricP
Patrick, Will repsectfully disagree. I weight considerably more than my wife. And yet she has always had the ability to coast downhill faster than me. Without trying. Even more bothersome, this is on her bike with upright mountain bike bars and not fast wheels by any means. As to weight,

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-06 Thread Anne Paulson
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:11 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Will repsectfully disagree.  I weight considerably more than my wife. And yet she has always had the ability to coast downhill faster than me.  Without trying.  Even more bothersome, this is on her bike with upright mountain bike

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-06 Thread Patrick in VT
On Aug 6, 6:11 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Patrick, Will repsectfully disagree. I weight considerably more than my wife. And yet she has always had the ability to coast downhill faster than me. how big a hill? perhaps it's possible that she's still more aero (even with a non-aero

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-05 Thread Angus
This time we stopped for beer and took them back to our starting point and enjoyed a cold frothy beverage coupled with casual conversation while dodging mosquitoes in the cool evening air. Overall a very pleasant and satisfying time. These scenarios are what makes riding with others enjoyable for

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-05 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/4/10 9:57 PM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:44 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Anne presents a concise thought exercise, pertinent to the original post.  While I agree that subtle differences in weight can make significant differences

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I rode my 559X22MM shod, lightwheeled Riv Commuter (~ 22 lbs with fenders, Tubus Fly, SON, Edeluxe, rear lights) with small load today, and I was having a blast standing to accelerate out of corners and on rises. Why? Yesterday I rode the heavy Sam Hill with its heavy, 622X33.33 wheels (and, to be

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: When you crest out 60 seconds behind yourself, and the other you is riding a skinny-tired bike downhill at speed over even slightly degraded pavement, the you riding the phenomenally stable, large-tire allowing

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-04 Thread charlie
Well yesyou would go slower with all that baggage breaking the wind and a higher bar position, I assume, making you less aerodynamic. Your climbing would also be slower. What I am talking about is minor weight differences (as the original poster mentioned) like between a 23 pound bike and

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-04 Thread Angus
Ignoring weight changes of a fully loaded touring magnitude...the biggest difference to bicycle speed I've noticed is due to tire choice. When I purchased my All-Rounder many years ago it felt like a bit of a dog and was about 1.0 - 1.5 mph slower than my Road Standard. A tire change (Ritchey

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-04 Thread EricP
Still not convinced what, if anything, makes a difference. The bike that happens to be under me when I ride fast is usually a bike with 29x2.1 wide semi-knobby tires and handlebars about 6 to 8cm above the saddle. Again, like the original poster, my testing is very unscientific. Just about 1,000

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-04 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:51 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: What I am talking about is minor weight differences (as the original poster mentioned) like between a 23 pound bike and say a 29 pounder. Those differences can't amount to much OK, let's say I compare my 23 pound bike

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-04 Thread charlie
I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier in Washington State.no matter where I go I have steep hills, its quite aggravating really. My gearing is 22x32x44 32-12 if that tells you anything. I'd rather carry the cookies so I could eat them but I see your point. You are correct, a lighter bike is

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-04 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:46 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier in Washington State.no matter where I go I have steep hills, its quite aggravating really. My gearing is 22x32x44 32-12 if that tells you anything. I'd rather carry the cookies

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-04 Thread doug peterson
Anne presents a concise thought exercise, pertinent to the original post. While I agree that subtle differences in weight can make significant differences in speed and/or time, I'll gladly haul the cookies. dougP On Aug 4, 2:01 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-04 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:44 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Anne presents a concise thought exercise, pertinent to the original post.  While I agree that subtle differences in weight can make significant differences in speed and/or time, I'll gladly haul the cookies. Of course, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce
. From: cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 8:37:39 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data I am betting it is not the weight of the bikes-- or only to a very small degree. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-03 Thread charlie
Holy Cow!..The only way one bicycle is (noticeably) faster than another is if your position is more aerodynamic. Tire size can make a difference but bike weight (unless it is considerable) can only make a difference in a climb. The real difference is how hard you pedal and whether or not

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-03 Thread charlie
Yea.I think we are on the same page. Hope I didn't come across wrong initially. I just went through this with several bikes and thought for sure one particular bike was my faster bike and it turned out to not be ( on one particular ride on one day). I recently made a stem and saddle

Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Photos of Rodeo and build specs ... please? Patrick equally slow on all his bikes Moore On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:27 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Holy Cow!..The only way one bicycle is

[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data

2010-08-02 Thread cm
What i think is even most interesting is that the bike you ride when you want to keep up (which i take to mean go fast) isn't the fastest. I think that the type of riding you do on a bike would have more to do with the average speed than the weight of the bike itself. If I rode my go-fast bike to