[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

If it's raining raining, I wear a Grunden's rain cape with Rivendell Splats and leggings. If it's cool with intermittent or threatening rain I have a Chrome Storm hoodie I use with water repellent Gander Mountain pants. I also have some Chrome Storm boots which are great on bad weather. Marc

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Some spendy shoes that I purchased earlier this year: http://arcteryx.com/ProductFind.aspx?language=EN&category=Footwear&subcat=Shoes We have had some wet weather lately, of the kind that would have inundated my previous go-to gore tex hikers and blundstones, and these worked dandy. Stiff so

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Wool, Ventile and waxed cotton all bring a smile to my face Worth the extra $ IMO. On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 11:18:37 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > What works for you in the rain when it is 60 degrees or colder? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

I love it, Lynne! Works for me. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 10:57:01 AM UTC-6, Lynne Fitz wrote: > > you grin sardonically, I snark. Upper left coast; it's what we do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

On 10/02/2015 12:57 PM, Lynne Fitz wrote: you grin sardonically, I snark. Upper left coast; it's what we do. A reaction to the climate - perpetual rain and darkness? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

you grin sardonically, I snark. Upper left coast; it's what we do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Lynne, you don't say of whom you speak. "Someone doesn't get wet in the rain," aye? No need for snarky passive aggressive. I'll make a leap and presume you refer to me. Grin. Though you didn't ask for it, I presume your hypothesis needs more data. Here is some. Currently here in sunny, dry Colo

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Wool layers are pretty good. Baselayer, sometimes two, and a wool jersey. I know someone doesn't get wet in the rain, but I hypothesize that that person lives somewhere that doesn't get the persistent rain that happens on the east and upper west coasts. Man, there is NOTHING like riding the fi

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Welp, 400-800$US is outta my price range so Ventile and Cottonanalogy and Scholler is out. I got the J&G Waterproof/Breathable helmet cover and jacket. It looks massively vented with the top half of the garment separated from the bottom half all the way around, and not just a vent on the back. B

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

A wool and Schoeller fabric option. On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 10:18:37 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: > > What works for you in the rain when it is 60 degrees or colder? -- You received this message bec

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Tony, great questions! First, Cotton analogy is in my experience superior to double ventile because of the capillary action that draws liquid moisture away to the outer layers. So a double ventile jacket will keep the wet out, it is less efficient at getting the wet out. Hilltrek, I believe, is

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

I would argue that on longer events you will be more aerobic than anaerobic, and thus sweating less at any given moment. With a Cotton Analogy jacket in all day rain I have stayed wonderfully dry. I spent several years trying everything I could, and the lesson I learned is I should have bought

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

You asked what did people wear in the rain in days of yore before the "waterproof/breathable" idea and sales pitch ? Most of the time when I rode in the rain, I'm speaking of the late 70's early 80's, I had a Bellwether "water resistant" jacket that of course wetted out , but it rea

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

On 10/01/2015 07:02 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: For Will and Patrick, any issues ordering from Hilltrek or customer service notes. I like the idea of that sort jacket but hate to purchase something that spendy both site unseen and from overseas. Can you confirm if the euro VAT gets removed fo

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

For Will and Patrick, any issues ordering from Hilltrek or customer service notes. I like the idea of that sort jacket but hate to purchase something that spendy both site unseen and from overseas. Can you confirm if the euro VAT gets removed for US purchasers? And one more thing if your willi

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

This info I need is mainly for long events. I do pretty good in the rain on commutes and sub-30 mile rides. Easy to stay warm on summer rides. So, sounds like for longer events there is no such thing as staying dry, so warm is the thing. I'm already wool clad head to toe when I ride. So just nee

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

I am just tickled pink to hear a woman proclaim that wool bras are lifesavers. And right here on this list! I, too, am a fan of the wooly supports in cold wet climes. You go, Riv Chica! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To un

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

On 09/30/2015 06:52 PM, William deRosset wrote: One other note: My comment "you're going to get wet" is not necessarily true if you're not riding hard. Then the balance between sweat rate and waterproofness is different. Balance of sweat rate and waterproofness can also be affected by the

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Fascinating, Will. My experience, to go into greater detail, is sweat gets things damp inside when I'm climbing, but then evaporates within 10-20 minutes of my activity level dropping (faster if a downhill descent with lots of airflow). Rather like a cotton t-shirt on a summer day. It gets wet

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

One other note: My comment "you're going to get wet" is not necessarily true if you're not riding hard. Then the balance between sweat rate and waterproofness is different. I dry off pretty quickly once the rain stops with the stuff I outlined above. Internally-generated heat and the wind bla

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Dear Patrick, I get wet on all-day rides if it is raining, either from wind-driven rain, or from my own cooling system. I can stay comfortable, but I won't stay dry. I've tried cotton analogy. Yep, it is great stuff, but it doesn't keep up with my sweat rate if I'm riding hard. Others: I don'

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

On 09/30/2015 05:33 PM, Lungimsam wrote: Wow. Some of the prices on waterproof/breathable jackets online are unbelieveably high. Ventile isn't cheap either. (Not even close to cheap.) What did cyclists do back in the pre-1970 years, when their probably weren't lots of "breathable" artifi

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Also forgot to mention pants--I use the levi's commuter collection. I've had their commuter jeans which are waterproof for about a year and they have worked well. I also just wear normal rain boots On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 11:18:37 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > What works for you in

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Waxed cotton capes weren't particularly expensive. They work. On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: > > Wow. Some of the prices on waterproof/breathable jackets online are > unbelieveably high. > > What did cyclists do back in the pre-1970 years, when their proba

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Likely that many of them wore wool, which gets wet but keeps you warm. Or perhaps plastic- or rubber-coated fabrics. On a side note, there was an expedition a few years ago that climbed Mt. Everest wearing clothing in the style of the 1920s. Wool, silk, canvas, etc.—very Riv-ish. They found tha

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Wow. Some of the prices on waterproof/breathable jackets online are unbelieveably high. What did cyclists do back in the pre-1970 years, when their probably weren't lots of "breathable" artificial fiber materials those days? Were they paying an arm and a leg for rainwear back then? -- You

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

The notion that "you're going to get wet" if it rains all day and you're out in it is not true. Demand better from your clothing, because it is possible. Cotton Analogy (I believe only available from Hilltrek, keeps me dry all day regardless of activity level. There is no need to settle for try

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

You might want to look into a Sierra Designs 60-40 Parka. I have one of the originals. Great ventilation. The original production had Ventile Cotton lining. Don't know if the re-issued line does. But my guess is it still sheds water well and vents well. On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 11

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Dear Lungimsam, Effective full fenders come immediately to mind. Are you riding to work, or out for a tootle, or out all day? 1. To work (running errands, etc): Take it easy, block the wind, and keep the rain off of the core. Civilian clothes, SPD shoes, and a double-Ventile jacket. Cap with b

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

That's the issue - the cold. What to wear to keep warm and dry. Although on long events maybe one cannot keep dry. Riding in summer heat on a long event in the rain is one thing. Doing it in the cold is another. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

wool jersey, wool baselayers, wool cap, wool sports bra (these are LIFESAVERS), wool capris/knickers. Wool socks. Showers Pass Elite jacket Rain Legs Booties Helmet cover Of course, I'm planning to be out there for 200km or further. I know I will not stay dry. I aim for warm. -- You receive

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

Ventile. Specifically, on top, Hilltrek's Cotton Analogy Ventile. http://www.hilltrek.co.uk What makes this vastly superior to every other rainwear option such that it is worth the price in money and weight? Simple: -- Like others, it is waterproof from the outside in so rain won't get you wet

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

I mostly use my Patagonia torrent shell has zippers at the armpit which is nice. Also use this as a winter wind jacket layering deep winter wool underneath it. If don't know if it's going to rain or not, I carry my lightweight Columbia jacket, which goes into its own pocket. On Wednesday, Sept