[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-11 Thread Jim Whorton
Pam, I think you have got this figured out. I admit I have let a few rides be ruined by obnoxious drivers. A close scrape is scary, and then it makes me angry, and then I am bothered by this feeling that I need to restore balance to the universe by waving a middle finger. That's the feeling

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread David Hallerman
I entirely agree. I mostly successfully avoid giving those unskilled auto drivers the finger. However, as I wave in a friendly way, but with my heart burning, I think how I’m still giving the rotten person my middle finger, just camouflaged by its four friends. Dave, who does not trust any driver

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
I was a teenager during the 1970s bike boom and loved riding my 10 speed everywhere. I rode for fun, fitness, socializing, commuting, errands, and eventually competition. I came to believe the bicycle could help transform our culture, bringing a more humane pace to our lives. I no longer believe

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread Jared Wilson
I wrote this up a day or two ago and hesitated to post but after talking with Ariel I've decided to share, apologies to Jim if it doesn't meet group guidelines. Last New Years Eve, 2021, my wife and I set out for one last ride of the year, venturing through wine country just outside of San Lui

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread Jared Wilson
I wrote this up a day or two ago and hesitated to post but after talking with Ariel I've decided to share, apologies to Jim if it doesn't meet group guidelines. Last New Years Eve, 2021, my wife and I set out for one last ride of the year, venturing through wine country just outside of San Luis

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread Trevor Bradshaw
Longtime lurker and Riv owner here. Last summer while riding my Riv Road I was run over by a truck rolling through a stop sign. I went down and the truck rolled over my bike and right shoulder. It's spooky being under a moving vehicle like that. I was pretty mangled, cuts, fractures, dislocated

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Putting on the Admin Cap... In the past I've pulled threads like this as they veered quickly and strongly off topic and tended to end up in Polemic-ville. I'd like to remind everyone, particularly newer members, of the narrower focus of this group. It's by design and has generally served us we

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread Wesley
I've been riding for many years in many places, and my worst experience (one of very few dangerous experiences) was this past summer. Near my house is a four-lane crossing over a freeway where the freeway is dug into a narrow channel, so it's not a long crossing and does not require a climb. Tr

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread 'JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ken, you just reminded me of many years ago on a quiet countryside 2 lane road, I was riding to the right and I assume it was kids that threw a full big cup of ice filled liquid in what kind of car I have no recollection. Yea they got me and I really wanted to get them but was too stunned. Peopl

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-10 Thread Ken Yokanovich
*Preface: I don't condone my choice of action* Years ago, I had a group of teens hit me with a full gallon-sized (or metric equivalent) bottle of Gatorade thrown out the car window as they swerved uncomfortably close to me. It was early morning and I presumed they were on their way to school. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Steven Sweedler
I completely agree about communication, I point to where I am going and wave a lot, I do try to keep my finger salute in my head only, it rarely improves anything. Steve On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 7:40 AM Pam Bikes wrote: > I haven't read all the posts except the first one but couple of things...

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Pam Bikes
I haven't read all the posts except the first one but couple of things... I teach Cycling Savvy ( https://cyclingsavvy.org/event/3-part-workshop-charlotte-nc-oct-21-23/2022-10-21/) which teaches communication and cooperation. I never use the one finger salute, I always use the friendly wave a

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Berkeleyan
RBW content - I owe my 1998 Rivendell LongLow Custom to getting doored in west Berkeley. I was coming back from (high carbohydrate) lunch at Jack-in-da-Box and was pedaling my lugged steel Centurion past parked cars when a door swung open and caught me in the ribs - immediate full stop. A painf

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread George Schick
These are difficult issues for all of us, but the door often swings both ways. A couple of years ago I had stopped at a point where a bike trail crosses a major state highway, waiting for the light to change so I could proceed across the intersection. On the opposite side of the intersection

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep. I use a mirror and always have a "bail off to the right" plan. Which won't be helpful if I'm on the bridge over the channel and the bail-off is way down there in shallow water! On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 3:32:41 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote: > My bike trail was closed for two weeks in April

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread aeroperf
My bike trail was closed for two weeks in April, 2020, so I rode 2 miles on the 45mph road to get to the next county where it was still open. I stayed well to the right of the shoulder white line, but one day a passing driver came close enough to clip my rear-view mirror. Handlebars went hard r

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Please be very cautious when choosing to engage with drivers. Only they know what lurks in their minds at that moment. Curtis Yielding to a 3000 pound mass of steel is a wise decision. On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 2:59 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > I moved this year and there's a 55mph 4-lane highway I use

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I moved this year and there's a 55mph 4-lane highway I use a lot, I don't love the speeds as the cars fly by but the emergency lane is wide and I don't worry about it too much. What PISSES ME OFF are the honkers who do it just to startle me cuz I guess it's hilarious. Not a fan. On Sunday, Oc

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Ian A
I had an incident last year thar still affects me. I was rolling along in the shoulder, enjoying the day en route the donut shop turnaround point (30 miles out, 30 back) when a pick up driver tried sideswiping me. He had to aim for me, this was intentional. My reactions meant I swerved clear, a

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I got "the honk" a couple weeks ago. I was on a residential street that narrows down from 35mph posted limit to 25 as it comes around a tight curve and shoots downhill. At the crest I took the lane with the knowledge that shortly I would be rolling at near 25 and a big black lifted pickup came

[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

2022-10-09 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
Scary. In the other direction, I got a good foot planted on the hood of an obnoxious Bentley that was being disrespectful of bicycle cross traffic. The driver looked super pissed and horribly distraught all at once. Not a Joe Bell, but the paint was pretty nice. I’ll do the same to any car, but