Dear Judy,
Since retiring in 2003 I have not been closely following discussions of
RDA. It seems to me that in some cases "first statement of responsibility" will
be difficult or impossible to ascertain. I do not think it is far-fetched it
imagine: 1. A bilingual text with one right-to-lef
Thursday, February 19, 2009
Attached is a note I recently sent to John Myers. He replied that I
should send it on my own instead of having him mediate it. Since the list is
about to close down for a few days starting tomorrow I'm sending it in its
original state. Comments are most welcome-
Wednesday, February 11, 2009
Concerning "romanization" and "transliteration":
1. Romanization is narrower in terms of the target script into which
one converts--it applies to changes to roman script only.
2. Transliteration is narrower in terms of the source script from which
one conv
Monday, October 27, 2008
Dear Mac,
I totally applaud your last sentence. A catalog is of a collection or
its not a catalog. Well there are union catalog but aside from thelm.
Regards,
Jim Agenbroad
In a message dated 10/24/2008 10:44:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Tuesday, July 2, 2008
Dear Martha,
I think I congratulated you when I first learned of your M.Mann
award. I'll just add I think that one of the benefits is that it raises the
credibility ov everything you say or write in the profession. Keep it up!
Regards,
Jim Agen
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Perhaps along with defining the catalog we should define bibliographic
and the differences between them. They are words we use frequently but may
writers and readers may not have the same understanding of one or both of them.
I've been off the internet for
Saturday, February 9, 2008
If those working on RDA seek another topic for their energym I suggest that
standardizing filing rules for OPACs would be appropriate. It would simplify
matters for both users (one set of fining rules to learn) and vendors (one
set of rules to implement).
Regar
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
It seems to me that a premise of RDA is that the cataloging community must
"catch up" with information technology or go down the drain. Does anyone doubt
that information and database technology will continue to expand faster than
RDA's developers can dream? For examp
Thursday, December 20, 2007
Dear Mac,
I'm surprised that as living in the west you didn't mention Portland
Oregon too.
On a little more serious note, I'm overwhelmed by the volume of the
new draft sections of RDA. It's more pages than I'd want to copy. In your
reading did you enco
Sunday, December 9, 2007 (I'm 73 teday)
Dear Mac,
I think a major motivation of both RDA and the Future of Bib.Control
WG is the irrational fear that Google, and their commercial digitizing
brethren will make libraries superfluous or marginal. I don't agree. So long
as they
can only off
Saturday, Ocotber 13, 2007
In order to avoid "throwing out the baby with the bathwater" one must first
agree on what are the essentials that should be retained and what are
outdated matters that should be discarded. I sense that the agreement is
lacking.
While new media are all about us the rul
Saturday, October 13, 2007
Dear Mac,
I've been away for a week. I will read the Feliciter and Amer.Libs. RDA
articles. I liked your comment. I syspect Am.Libs. won't print the Gorman
and Yee articles as they might erode sales of RDA of which ALA is one
publisher. (In other words point out
Thursday, September 4, 2005
Wide electronic distribution of the list/index of free floating LCSH
subdivisions with instructions would also be helpful IMHO. But subject
access--LCSH,
LCC, Dewey decimal, Bliss, Cutter, UDC, etc.--though worthy topics may all
be beyond the current scope of the RD
Friday, June 29, 2007
At present AACRE defines:
1. "Parallel title. The title proper in another language and/or script." and
2. "Alternative title. The second part of a title proper that consists of
two parts, each part of which is a title; the parts are joined by or or its
equivalent in anot
Thursday, June 7, 2007
According to C.A.Cutter (4th ed, 1904, p.12) the first two objects of a
catalog are:
1. To enable a person to find a book of which either (A) the author, (B) the
title [or] (C) the subject is known.
2. To show what the library has (D) by a given author, (E) on a given
sub
Monday, May 14, 2007
I think the reason for using a controlled vocabulary was not for sharing
data among libraries but to bring together (aka "collocate") items with of an
author who uses a variety of names or forms of a name (Twain vs. Clemons), or
on a subject whose name varies (death penalty
Thursday, April 19, 2007
A background paper for the May 9 meeting of the Working Group on the
Future of Bibliographic Control can be found at:
_www.loc.gov/bibliographic-future/meetings/index.html_
(http://www.loc.gov/bibliographic-future/meetings/index.html) It raises
three questions
Thursday, April 5, 2007
It may be unrealistic to expect the archival and electronic resources to
communities adopt all the details of AACR rules--they may not need them. It may
also be unrealistic to expect libraries to dilute their rules for these
communities when libraries still need them. I
Tuesday, March 20, 2007
Dear Mac,
Bravo! I agree with most of what you say, but not the 600/650 example
If an item is a biography a more general 650 (Arichitects--Great
Britain--Biography for Christopher Wren) is not what should be first.
Concerning vocabulary, is it possible that n
Mac,
As you said, "It's hard to say nicely that the emperor is naked."
Regards,
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Wednesdy, February 21, 2007
I think several years ago the late Professor Hans Wellisch of Univ. of
MD library school wrote an article proposing that we do away with inverting
personal names entirely. I'm not sure in what journal.
Regards,
Jim Agenbroad ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:
Saturday, November 11, 2006
Some form of vernacular script access to names of authors would be nice. I
gather we must wait for the draft chapters on authority control and references
to see what, if anything, they propose. The draft for public comments report
of the ALCTS Task Force on Non-Englis
Saturday, October 7, 2006
Dear Diane,
Better thee than me. A long time ago at Rutgers library school Ralph
Shaw supposedly said, "Information science is librarianship by amateurs". In
the same vein I suspect metadata is cataloging by amateurs and FRBR is a fad
borrowed from database desig
Friday, September 1, 2006
One need not look to remote places and times for sacred scriptures entered
under their author, more locally and recently there is Science and health by
Mary Baker Eddy. If it is not so regarded by Christian Scientists please
accept my apologies.
Regards,
Thursday, August 31, 2006
In the first sentence of my suggestion yesterday about nonroman/vernacular
references, what I say about catalogers using RLIN and OCLC to assign
vernacular headings could be understood to say they do so for all languages and
scripts. To clarify: RLIN and OCLC support in
Wednesday, August 30, 2006
On this list I have twice asked what, if anything, RDA will do about
vernacular (i.e., nonroman) access points which catalogers using RLIN or OCLC
have assigned for several years. I have had no answer. I conclude this has not
been decided and may appear in the p
Tuesday, August 22, 2006
Dear Michael, Mac and RDA_L'
A bit of history may be of some slight interest. Searching the on LC
catalog one finds:
1. Control number: 16-025649, has main entry: 100 Fugger family (for an
inventory of the part of the archive medieval merchant family)
2. Control num
Wednesday, August 9, 2006
I have read draft chapters 6 and 7. In my opinion, a major problem with RDA
is the lack of any mention of headings in other scripts, also known as
vernacular access points. Will they be mentioned in a subsequent chapter? I'll
say
no more now about their desirability i
Monday, July 17, 2006
If chapter 13 said "to align the bibliographic naming of works with
established ways in which users refer to works" as Mr. Eversberg suggests,
would this
include at least allowing the giving of titles of works of nonroman origin
in their original script? 'Tis a consumation
Thursday, July 13, 2006
A recent contributor to this list said he or she had not seen a card
catalog that distinguished in filing between main and added entries for a
person. The old LC filing rules (pre-John Rather rules) did make this
distinction.
I do not know if the "frozen" LC card
Thursday, July 13, 2006
Dear Mac,
I completely agree with you about the alternative title and have long
thought so. My recollection is that considering it part of the title proper
was due to the desires of French librarians and dates back to near the start of
ISBD's--maybe when the 'I' wa
Wednesday, July 12, 2006
I have read the draft versions of chapters 6 and 7 but did not see any
mention of a topic of interest to me: Will RDA provide for access points in the
original script to resources issued in nonroman scripts? Will something be in
part 2?
Background. For a few lang
Monday, March 27, 2006
In both these rules a person uses two names but in 22.2B2 both names get
headings while in 22.3B1 only the predominant name gets a heading. In the first
case one of the names is a pseudonym and the other a real name and the names
reflect different "bibliographic identities"
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