Re: [RDA-L] A date between 1310 and 1319

Richard, This reminds me of an earlier discussion about the use of the question mark instead of approximately. I can see your $d as: 1310?/1319?- or as: 1310/1319?- I originally put it as 1310-1319?- But that looks like the person may have only lived 9 years. The problem is one of training

Re: [RDA-L] A date between 1310 and 1319

and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Lasater, Mary Charles Sent: 02 October 2013 14:44 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] A date between 1310 and 1319 Richard, This reminds me of an earlier

Re: [RDA-L] approzimately in access points

Mac, This seems like a suggestion that would serve two purposes... 1. eliminate a very long access point ... 2. eliminate confusion about when to use 'approximately' vs. the question mark. I like this suggestion. Mary Charles Lasater -Original Message- From: Resource Description

[RDA-L] RDA authority record practice Hierarchical superior'

All, We have begun loading the Phase 2 authority records and I am reviewing these changes. I got an 'ugly surprise' when I started seeing 510 fields with $w r Hierarchical superior. I understand that our current catalog is not 'the future', but our current catalog display of many of these

Re: [RDA-L] Separate bibliographic identities Discovery Systems

I've found this discussion very interesting and can't stop myself from making a comment. When we worked on our discovery system, we did include 'see' references and limited 'see also' references in the search. So searching for Julie Andrews also retrieves children's books by Julie Edwards (for

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Conference headings created by BL

Tel.: +44 (0)1937 546806 E-mail: richard.mo...@bl.uk -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Lasater, Mary Charles

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Conference headings created by BL

Richard, I am seeing lots of BL created RDA conference headings show up for individual conferences, many using initials. The biggest difference I see is the word (Conference) added to the initials. Example: 111: 2|aWWIC (Conference)|n(10th :|d2012 :|cThera Island, Greece) I like it since it

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Conference headings created by BL

for the body. I don't think using initialisms for corporate bodies is going to help the patron. After all, sir, Just waht is the WWIC, the patron might ask. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Lasater, Mary Charles mary.c.lasa...@vanderbilt.edumailto:mary.c.lasa...@vanderbilt.edu wrote: Richard, I am

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Conference headings created by BL

. Snow, 1842. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Lasater, Mary Charles Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:16 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Conference headings

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for

of authority control. Mary Charles -Original Message- From: J. McRee Elrod [mailto:m...@slc.bc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:24 PM To: Lasater, Mary Charles Cc: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for Mary Lasater

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

Barbara, They haven't spent 15 years correcting records that were linked and changed incorrectly. I'm afraid this is another of those 'be careful what you wish for' things that you don't recognize until you have had to deal with the mess. A compromise solution would be to qualify by

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

Jonathan, Many of these records start as simple 'unique' personal name authority records. Then because we have been unable to qualify them using AACR2, the next person with that name makes it non-unique. I think you have a very valid point, one which I have followed... just let the headings

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

You are basically correct and it requires 'someone' to look at the authority record. It is not a 'machine thing' yet, but it could be, at least for some of us, if we stopped the current practice. Mary Charles -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource

Re: [RDA-L] Locally converting the LC/NACO authority file to RDA

Vince, Thanks so much for raising this issue. I will only have to 'deal with' our 1 1/2 million authority records but it will be a big project, with very little result for such an effort. We've been told that 95% of the existing name records will be 'ok' as is so I may contact my vendor and

Re: [RDA-L] Linked files

WHY does it take a new set of rules to make this change? If a name has been undifferentiated under AACR2, there is every reason to believe we will need that undifferentiated heading again under AACR2, even if the last 670 is removed. I have been 'begging' for a workable change to

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names

Adam, Thanks very much for pointing this out. Mary Charles -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 5:16 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax asch...@u.washington.edu http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff ~~ On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Lasater, Mary Charles wrote: I was also surprised by and concerned about this RDA change for conference names. Would anyone be able to supply

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

I was also surprised by and concerned about this RDA change for conference names. Would anyone be able to supply 'background' for this decision? Is this a change because of other cataloging practices? Supposed to reflect 'what you see' more closely or? Mary Charles Lasater Authorities

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

as well -- these two just popped into my head. kc Quoting Lasater, Mary Charles mary.c.lasa...@vanderbilt.edu: I was also surprised by and concerned about this RDA change for conference names. Would anyone be able to supply 'background' for this decision? Is this a change because

Re: [RDA-L] FRBR

I also agree. Earlier today I saw the PCC Discussion Paper on RDA implementation. Perhaps this message would be an appropriate response. That position paper seems oblivious to the current 'real' environment. Mary Charles Lasater Authorities Coordinator Vanderbilt University From: Resource

Re: [RDA-L] FRBR

Kevin, I agree with Laurence Creider There is a near total disconnect between the discussion and the conclusion. I couldn't even figure out how to respond to it. I am not 'anti' RDA, but it is clear that RDA is not finished (subjects???) and the Toolkit is very hard to use. Finally the TEST

Re: [RDA-L] FRBR

However, we must all remain aware that as we become 'indoctrinated' into the rules we are less likely to question them. This is something I point out each time I conduct NACO training. We should continue to question. The new trainees always have questions and too often the answer is 'because