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Look at this:
150 Large type books
450 Large p
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:26 PM
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Thomas said:
>The edition statement is used to identify the resource in two main ways:
>1. help identifying the manifestation by recording what's on the manifestation
>(this should be done if "Large print edition" is on the resource).
>2. distinguish the manifestation from similar ones
If the l
f Kevin M Randall
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Sent: July-31-13 7:23 PM
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Mac Elrod wrote:
> If the item says "Large print edition" seems to me that belongs in
> 250, just as you indicated f
Mac Elrod wrote:
> Kevin said:
>
> >But field 340 would be where you would record the font size itself as a
> >descriptive aspect.
>
> What does this accomplish for patrons, if 340 is not in brief display?
What good does the language code in 008/35-37 do? Or the place of publication
in 008/15
Kevin said:
>But field 340 would be where you would record the font size itself as a
>descriptive aspect.
What does this accomplish for patrons, if 340 is not in brief display?
Records have *purposes*, one of which is to identify for patrons what
they seek. That an item is large print is more
Mac Elrod wrote:
> If the item says "Large print edition" seems to me that belongs in
> 250, just as you indicated for "Abridged edition". Field 340 is far
> too late for identification of the resource.
Yes, it would still be appropriate to record "Large print edition" as an
edition statement,
Deborah said:
>But we need to think of data as data, now more than ever. Font size is a
>particular type of data. If the text in a book is 'large print' then 0.4.3.1
>and 0.4.3.2 principles guide us to add that data, but we need to add it as
>the correct Font size element (in MARC 300$a or 340$n),
y 31, 2013 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?
Kristen Northrup posted:
>I guess my real question is why so many catalogers are now skipping
>both the 250 and the 300 [large print] phrase for these records.
Perhaps
Kristen Northrup posted:
>I guess my real question is why so many catalogers are now skipping
>both the 250 and the 300 [large print] phrase for these records.
Perhaps because the WEMI and fuzzy language make RDA difficult to
apply? Perhaps because too many cataloguers are attempting to follow
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?
If the resource has an edition statement on one of
RDA 2.5.14 provides an optional addition: “If a resource lacks an edition
statement but is known to contain significant changes from other editions,
supply an edition statement, if considered important for identification or
access. Indicate that the information was taken from a source outside the
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ent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 J. McRee Elrod posted:
>>"We do not create records as an end in themselves for bibliographic
utilities or catalogues,
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 J. McRee Elrod posted:
>>"We do not create records as an end in themselves for bibliographic utilities
>>or catalogues, but as a service to patrons in identifying what they seek."
Similarly, identifying abridged vs unabridged audio books is an attribute
patrons strong
>>Whether or not it has an edition statement, you could (would be
>>advised to) >add Font Size (3.13) "large print", in either the 300$a
>>or 340$n or both
>True. But in the absence of a GMD, or a large print icon, a 250 large
>print edition statement (transcribed or supplied) would give helpful
Deborah said:
>Whether or not it has an edition statement, you could (would be
>advised to) >add Font Size (3.13) "large print", in either the 300$a
>or 340$n or both
True. But in the absence of a GMD, or a large print icon, a 250 large
print edition statement (transcribed or supplied) would gi
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
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Kr
Kristen Nortrup posted:
>There's nothing obvious in RDA that indicates a statement on the t.p.
>verso like 'Large print edition' no longer gets a 250.
With the absence of the GMD "[text (large print)]", and in the absence
of an RDA content term for large print, this edition statement is
vital.
Forgot to add that they were all ELvl blank.
From: Northrup, Kristen D.
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:26 PM
To: 'Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access'
Subject: Still doing edition statements for large print?
There's nothing obvious in RDA that indicates a statement
There's nothing obvious in RDA that indicates a statement on the t.p. verso
like 'Large print edition' no longer gets a 250.
But I just did four consecutive large print books (standing order) that were
all missing the 250 and were all DLC/pcc'd with 10+ symbols in the 040. Which
is the sort of
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