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joyed the 300 field in question.
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I just cataloged the book corresponding to OCLC #702491897. When I
looked
at the record, the 300 read:
319
ate: 03/02/2011 02:17 PM
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Quoting John Attig :
Karen was using the outdated full draft of RDA. The entries in the
RDA Registry were also taken from that draft, and will need to be
revised in the light of subsequent changes.
Actually, I was looking at the registry list of vocabularies which
were derived from the R
When one has questions about RDA and is so closely involved in the
import of RDA to one's work, wouldn't prudence argue for acquiring a
copy of the standard in question? Even if one wishes to eschew RDA's
use generally and wants to avoid the ongoing subscription costs, there
is now a paper version
Adam L. Schiff said:
>What I do not understand is, since this was a PCC BIBCO record ...
>why Ms. Tomares did not simply write in private to the University of
>Chicago ...
But then we would have missed a very informative exchange for all, e.g.,
whether or not there are standard values in RDA for
2/2011 12:40 PM
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to:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>] On Behalf Of Mike Tribby
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>> While NYPL would like t
Deborah Tomaras commented:
>I do not correct British spellings when I see records by UKM etc.
I'm not sure "correct" is the right word here, because from the point
of view of some, you are changing the standard spelling to a dialect
one, apart from the standardization Karen Coyle proposes.
With
What I do not understand is, since this was a PCC BIBCO record, and since
the BIBCO liaisons are easily found on the PCC website
(http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/bibco/bibcoliaisons.html), why Ms. Tomares
did not simply write in private to the University of Chicago to inquire
about the record. T
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First, if
Karen was using the outdated full draft of RDA. The entries in the RDA
Registry were also taken from that draft, and will need to be revised in
the light of subsequent changes.
In the published version, the element is called "Colour Content"; the
"British" spelling is used because the editori
icators
or subfields.)
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First, if an English speaker uses English as t
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Everyone:
The book in question was cataloged by University of Chicago, an American
cataloging agency, presumably therefore supposed to be using American
spellings for things. The book itself was in Swedish, so would not have
said anywhere specifically that it had "all beautiful colo(u)red
illustra
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>While NYPL would like to politicize it,
An alleged initiative to which you are contributing by replying in this
manner.
As to whether patrons care
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>While NYPL would like to politicize it,
An alleged initiative to which you are contributing by replying in this manner.
As to whether patrons care whether illustrations are in color or in black and
white, in my experience lots
>While NYPL would like to politicize it,
An alleged initiative to which you are contributing by replying in this manner.
As to whether patrons care whether illustrations are in color or in black and
white, in my experience lots of public and school library patrons do care about
that, and probab
> Weinheimer Jim :
> Considering all of this, maybe "illustrations (some
> coloured, a few beautiful, several less than aesthetically
> pleasing, and a couple downright nasty)" isn't so bad after
> all!
>
That comment may be put in a "paradata" area by end users if we had really
participated "
Hal Cain wrote:
My point is that what we provide in cataloguing should be accurate as
far as it goes, and it should go as far as is reasonably foreseeable
to be useful.
Absolutely agreed, but my point is: in the environment we are entering
willy-nilly, where everyone and everything is supp
Quoting Weinheimer Jim :
I think Jonathan is absolutely right. Cataloger time is valuable,
and at least I *very much* hope cataloger time will become
increasingly valuable in the future (since the opposite is a
terrifying possibility!). It has always been the case that creating
bibliograp
Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Because like I said, I suspect that whether illustrations are present in color
or not is not of much concern to 99% of patrons 99% of the time. In fact, if
you think about it too hard it's a bit frustrating that expensive cataloger
time is being spent marking down whet
Deborah Tomares posted:
>319 pages : |b illustrations (some coloured, all beautiful), maps ; |c 25
>cm.
One of the disadvantages of RDA's spelled out words, is that spellings
vary. My understanding is that each library is to follow its own
practice, and the rest of us should leave it alone.
The
Quoting Jonathan Rochkind :
Which is why in an ideal world, if we care about whether the
illustrations are colored or not (and I suspect the time is LONG
gone when our patrons or we actually DO), there would be a data
element in the record which marked, in a machine interpretable way,
whe
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I just cataloged the book corresponding to OCLC #702491897. When I looked
at the record, the 300 read:
319 pages : |b illustrations (some coloured, all beautiful), maps ; |c 25
cm.
I've corrected the spelling of "coloured
I just cataloged the book corresponding to OCLC #702491897. When I looked
at the record, the 300 read:
319 pages : |b illustrations (some coloured, all beautiful), maps ; |c 25
cm.
I've corrected the spelling of "coloured" to American usage--is there an
RDA provision I'm missing about this, or wa
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