[RE-wrenches] Best Battery

There has been a lot of great information that has been shared. This list is truly awesome! My takeaway is that, if Li-Ion is going to be used in a system with an old FX inverter, probably the Discover would be the best choice. Due to cost and potential compatibility issues, a better

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hese parameters: >> >> >> >> 1. DOD for flooded L16s: 50% >> >> 2. DOD for Blue Planet: 100% >> >> >> >> I hope I am wrong. >> >> >> >> Also, we often install battery arrays that are upwards of 4,000 AH. For

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gust 9, 2020 12:02 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Battery Wrenchel have been very happy with all my Blue Planet battery systems, best battery you will install. Jerry On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 11:19 AM mailto:drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>

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t;> >> >> >> 1. DOD for flooded L16s: 50% >> >> 2. DOD for Blue Planet: 100% >> >> >> >> I hope I am wrong. >> >> >> >> Also, we often install battery arrays that are upwards of 4,000 AH. For >> example, we installed 5,668

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looded L16s: 50% >>> >>> 2. DOD for Blue Planet: 100% >>> >>> >>> I hope I am wrong. >>> >>> >>> Also, we often install battery arrays that are upwards of 4,000 AH. For >>> example, we installed 5,668 of East

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ce. William Miller *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Shafer *Sent:* Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:02 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Battery

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.@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]] On Behalf Of Jerry Shafer Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:02 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Battery   Wrenchel have been very happy with all my Blue Planet battery systems, best battery you will install. Jerr

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t design? Is it > practical to install 9 cabinets? Does the system detect and compensate for > circulating currents in this many parallel strings? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > William Miller > > > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-

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tect and compensate for > circulating currents in this many parallel strings? > > Thanks in advance. > > William Miller > > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of Jerry Shafer > Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:02

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nches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [3]] ON BEHALF OF Jerry Shafer SENT: Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:02 PM TO: RE-wrenches SUBJECT: Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Battery Wrenchel have been very happy with all my Blue Planet battery systems, best battery you will install. Jerry On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 11:19

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in this many parallel strings? Thanks in advance. William Miller *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Shafer *Sent:* Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:02 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Battery Wrenchel have been very happy

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Kirk I would be interested in your amended programming with outback and blue planet Jerry On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:43 AM Kirk Herander wrote: > http://outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/appnotes/lithium_app_note.pdf > > This doesn't explain it, just omits older FX inverters from the Outback >

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I agree on the Trace and Xantrex SW's for offgrid. Bullet proof and easy to install. I could never go back though to not having the graphics that a networked system enables. Just to easy to look at a 24 hour battery graph and see that the battery charged. Also multiple banks can be looked at.

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I agree, the AES has a much friendlier voltage range.  Thanks for sharing, Dave.  I also do not use the RE Optics, I've moved away from Outback as well, after having issues with the FXR line, tech support, and wiring in the tiny enclosure that comes with the Radians.  Had decent luck with

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Ah that was the metric I didn’t understand the 2-10, is minutes. got it j > On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar > wrote: > > I have forwarded this to Schneider. They gave me a case number in 30 minutes. > I disagree that "all" Li batteries need this. Obviously

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Appreciate forwarding this to Schneider.  So you never had any issues programming their monitoring system or getting it connected to the internet via the customer's router? What is the LBCO recommended for the Li+ batteries you are using?  Default on many inverters for FLA is 42 or 44 volts,

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I have forwarded this to Schneider. They gave me a case number in 30 minutes. I disagree that "all" Li batteries need this. Obviously simplyphi does need LBCO to be increased. The LBCO delay does help at 10 minutes from 2 minutes default BTW. I have not had your issues with tech support.

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It relates specifically to Simpliphi, but all brands of Li+ need much higher LBCO set points compared to Lead acid. Hysteresis and time don't fix the fact that once the batteries shut off before the inverter, the entire system is inoperable, with no charging available from the PV.  It creates

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http://outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/appnotes/lithium_app_note.pdf [http://outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/appnotes/lithium_app_note.pdf] This doesn't explain it, just omits older FX inverters from the Outback compatible list. In terms of programming, I did not use Blue Planet's

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Hey Ray, Your comment on Schneider LBCO relates to which brand? Sympliyfi? Curious because I will send this in again. I did last time and they said to make sure the config person knows that you can also set the default LBCO hysteresis from 2V to 10V and the LBCO time from 60 seconds up to 600

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For some reason (that I never got an answer to from Outback or Blue Planet) older FX inverters are not compatible with Blue Ion LFP batteries. The newer FXR series are. Considering one only needs to change slightly charge voltages, duration, etc. to meet BI recommendations, it's a mystery why

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Kilovault Pl AGM for backup power, i am replacing C 15 year old backup power batteries now much cheaper when cycling is infrequent. By the way most AGM need cycling. On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 3:10 PM Ken Schaal wrote: > Any thoughts on Kilovault that Morningstar is teaming up with? > Time for me

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My favorite right now is Simpliphi: company has been around since 2002, and as the name implies, they are simple to install.  There is no external monitoring or comm, just an output breaker on each battery that can be reset if the internal BMS ever shuts down for any reason.  We've done

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Hi Kirk, Can you explain why it wouldnt work? Just setpoints. Jay > On Aug 9, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Kirk Herander wrote: > >  > For some reason (that I never got an answer to from Outback or Blue Planet) > older FX inverters are not compatible with Blue Ion LFP batteries. The newer > FXR

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I have outback FX systems operating for years now, the lab l had used FX's and midnite systems, it does need to be 48 volts nominal. Jerry On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 4:13 PM Kirk Herander wrote: > For some reason (that I never got an answer to from Outback or Blue > Planet) older FX inverters are not

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P.S. The system consists of an old Outback FX inverter and an MX60, with a 2600 W array. --- On 2020-08-09 13:12, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote: Hello Wrenches, What is the best Li-Ion battery to use with an off grid system? Thanks, Drake Athens Electric --

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HI Drake, I think it really depends on what inverter you have, what the size is, what features you want and why do you want lithium? For example to me, as they are black boxes, I will only use one that has a physical external monitor, not only a web based, which at this point is pretty much

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I looked at this and decided on a new set of Rolls flooded lead calcium for my grid-tied backup system. On 8/9/2020 1:10 PM, Ken Schaal wrote:  Any thoughts on Kilovault that Morningstar is teaming up with? Time for me to replace my 10 yr old. Deka AGMs. Not many outages, mostly float. No TOU

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Any thoughts on Kilovault that Morningstar is teaming up with? Time for me to replace my 10 yr old. Deka AGMs. Not many outages, mostly float. No TOU rates. Net metered. Thanks Ken Schaal CommonWealth Solar On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 4:01 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar < offgridso...@sti.net> wrote:

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My favorite are Discover AES and Fortress Power. They both communicate open loop with Schaner Electric. The best battery I have installed as of this date. Always like Surette and US battery for FLA. Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't"

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Wrenchel have been very happy with all my Blue Planet battery systems, best battery you will install. Jerry On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 11:19 AM wrote: > Hello Wrenches, > > What is the best Li-Ion battery to use with an off grid system? > > Thanks, > > Drake > Athens Electric > > -- >

[RE-wrenches] Best Battery

Hello Wrenches, What is the best Li-Ion battery to use with an off grid system? Thanks, Drake Athens Electric -- ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: