Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person

2018-03-20 Thread solar1online
t;Ray" To: Cc: Sent: 20-Mar-2018 21:15:19 + Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person Rianai have 3 major issues when used off grid. 1) The phantom load when I checked was over 30 watts continuous. That's over 700 w-hr/ day. 2) They need pure sine wave

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2018-03-20 Thread Ray
___ *P*Please consider the environment before printing this email. *From:*RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> *On Behalf Of *cwarfel *Sent:* Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:48 AM *To:* re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person What are

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2018-03-20 Thread Dana
esday, March 20, 2018 11:48 AM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person What are the issues with tankless water heaters? I have heard them described as having "issues", but I haven't read anything that describes what they are. They

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2018-03-20 Thread cwarfel
tion ProfessionalTM: Cert #031508-90 *From:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> *On Behalf Of *Drake *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:00 PM *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person Th

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2018-03-20 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
this is not >>>> an >>>> all-electric >>>> off-grid building.) >>>> >>>> The main benefit, as far as I understand it, is that you can get by >>>> with >>>> a >>>> smaller unit, with a smaller heating eleme

Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person

2018-03-20 Thread cwarfel
arch 15, 2018 1:00 PM *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person This discussion has been a great help. The house is built and the plumbing is in, but could be modified. Wood stoves are not a likely solution. I think we need a

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2018-03-20 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
into the situation. >> >> Here are two brand names that I know of. >> Vertical mount: renewability >> Horizontal mount: ecodrain >> >> I have not used these products, so I cannot endorse any of them, just >> though it may be worth consideration. >> &g

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2018-03-20 Thread Barton Churchill
> > Daniel Young, > NABCEP Certified PV Installation ProfessionalTM: Cert #031508-90 > > *From:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> *On > Behalf Of *Drake > *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:00 PM > *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.

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2018-03-20 Thread Drake
stallation ProfessionalTM: Cert #031508-90 From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of Drake Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:00 PM To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person This discussion

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2018-03-19 Thread cwarfel
;re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> *On Behalf Of *Drake *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:00 PM *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person This discussion has been a great help. The house is built and t

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2018-03-19 Thread Daniel Young
oun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of Drake Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:00 PM To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person This discussion has been a great help. The house is built and the plumbing is in, but could be mo

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2018-03-15 Thread Darryl Thayer
se that never bathe to the high schooler that needs >> 3 showers a day. In the northeast water heating can be up to 19% of the >> total household energy load for the year. Also, I would recommend the air >> source heat pump water heaters if you have significant humidity or

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2018-03-15 Thread cwarfel
56>    *From:* Barton Churchill [mailto:bar...@solarips.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:31 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person  You first need to know your ground temperature. Then figure a delta to 1

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2018-03-15 Thread Darryl Thayer
are typically under insulated and can lose > 2kWh/day in standby losses. > Â > Mike Kocsmiersky > Principal > Spirit Solar Inc. > (413) 734-1456 > Â > Â > Â > *From:* Barton Churchill [mailto:bar...@solarips.com <bar...@solarips.com>] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2

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2018-03-15 Thread Drake
4, 2018 7:31 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person  You first need to know your ground temperature. Then figure a delta to 100 or so degrees. Most but not all showerheads flow 2.5gpm and showers are typically 10 minutes. You can then find a calculator online to c

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2018-03-15 Thread Darryl Thayer
Sorry I could not find much data but here is what I found Here is some of my data, take with a grain of sault. Well pump ½ hp drawdown 60 feet, start surge 1500 Watts running watts 500 watts runtime 25 seconds 40-gallon bladder tank. 40 to 60 PSI. Two people in the house about 60 years old,

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2018-03-15 Thread frenergy
Drake,             It would help to knowis this duplex already built? and considering where you live, is a woodstove being considered for space heat? Bill Feather River Solar Electric Bill Battagin, Owner 4291 Nelson St. Taylorsville, CA 95983 530.284.7849 CA Lic 874049 www.frenergy.net

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2018-03-15 Thread cwarfel
. Mike Kocsmiersky Principal Spirit Solar Inc. (413) 734-1456 *From:*Barton Churchill [mailto:bar...@solarips.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:31 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person You first need to know your ground temperature. Then figure

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2018-03-15 Thread Bill Hennessy
www.berkssolar.com From: "drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org" <drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:19 PM Subject: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person Hello Wrenches, Is there

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2018-03-15 Thread Mike Kocsmiersky
-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person You first need to know your ground temperature. Then figure a delta to 100 or so degrees. Most but not all showerheads flow 2.5gpm and showers are typically 10 minutes. You can then find a calculator online to calculate how many Btus are required to raise water

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2018-03-15 Thread jerrysgarage01
Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Darryl Thayer <darylsol...@gmail.com> Date: 3/14/18 4:14 PM (GMT-10:00) To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person Sorry to say nothing, but a few

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2018-03-14 Thread Darryl Thayer
Sorry to say nothing, but a few years ago I did a study on off grid and on grid houses and some had electric resistance water heaters and one with a Heat pump water heater. If I can find the data I will send. However, it varied a lot most the families were for 2 or 3 people The variation made

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2018-03-14 Thread Barton Churchill
You first need to know your ground temperature. Then figure a delta to 100 or so degrees. Most but not all showerheads flow 2.5gpm and showers are typically 10 minutes. You can then find a calculator online to calculate how many Btus are required to raise water temp for your delta per gallon.

[RE-wrenches] Electric Water kWh/ person

2018-03-14 Thread drake . chamberlin
Hello Wrenches, Is there a good way to estimate the power that will be consumed for electric water per person per day? We are estimating the amount of power that will be used by an all electric duplex, and the water heater amount seems high. The current model we have claims 3493 kWh/ year per 26