I
never said police were not racist, nor did I say they were.
Quite
frankly I can give any opinion i want because they are mine.
Believe whatever you want, I'm
happy.
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Do a block sender on my e-mail address!!
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Hello
can someone tell me if it is
If you're going to go back, why not go back all the way. Eventually, the
land was owned by no one, except the dinasours!
As far as I am concerned we are all visitors to this land and there should
be none of this "this is mine and you took it away."
Here's a thought for you: How do we not know
What is so wrong with serving the 14 days?
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Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2000 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Interesting idea!
Here is a copy of the letter I just sent
This was the result of a real poll and showed that 22% of Americans
didn't even know that there were no sanctions against Sweden but they
had an opinion anyway in that they agreed it should be bombed.
Yes the show is humorous but most of it has a point and what they are
jabbing at isn't funny -
So as we are all visitors to this land and there should be none of this
"this is mine and you took it away," (according to you) I assume you would
have no objection to me just moving into your house and pushing you off
because as visitors the only right that we have to property is the strength
Hi Karen,
My feeling about your answer is that you're not
talking about reconciliation but about something less specific like living in
a fair country, judging by your comments below. Reconciliation is about
that too, but it refers to a particular relationship, namely, that
Responding to two challenges by Karen earlier today (yesterday Australian
time):
1) "Why does nobody jump up and call it racist when a white person dies in
custody?"
2) "... what everyone else's definition of reconciliation is."
1) "Why does nobody jump up and call it racist when a white
Come on Karen! Be reasonable! Trudy's talking about a comedy show which is
citing a real survey. The show must be taken with a grain of salt, but the
survey shouldn't (at least not more than any other survey).
Glenn Murray
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Hear hear!
And it's not as simple as that either. The cry, "Let's just forget about it
and move on" is always made by those who benefited (and continue
benefiting) from the dispossession. Coincidence? How can we move on when
this is the closest that mainstream Australia comes to admitting
The Sydney Morning Herald
Revealed: human rights whitewash
Date: 17/03/00
By MARK RILEY, Herald Correspondent in New York
Politically explosive findings that placed Australia in direct violation
of international human rights conventions were dumped from a
United Nations report on mandatory
Hi again Karen,
Before you start making claims such as these, have a think about your own
situation. If it wasn't for such affirmative action policies, you wouldn't
even have access to the computer you're typing on. More to the point, you
wouldn't be allowed to voice your opinions, much less
THE AGE
Howard damned on four fronts
By MICHAEL GORDON
Friday 17 March 2000
The Howard Government stands condemned for its blatant expediency,
hypocrisy,
inconsistency and cant on the issue of mandatory sentencing.
Expediency, because it is prepared to use the weight of numbers in its
party
If anyone wants to send a white feather to the MPs and Senators who
misplaced their consciences when the crunch came but can't get any
physical white feathers, I have a jpeg of a white feather which can be
sent in an email.
Let me know if you want me to forward it. If you send it, make sure you
Bruce Baird MP
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Senator
I wouldn't mind, thank Trudy. I'm gonna try to get some feathers today, but
just in case...
Glenn Murray
"I am a peanut"
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Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:58 AM
To: RecOzNet2
Subject: [recoznet2] White feather email
Trudy,
Perhaps you have decided to write these people off
completely for now and into the future, in which case, send your feather.
But if you think you might like to influence them at some time in the future, I
think you would be much better off writing a letter expressing your concern in
Graham,
You may be right and I appreciate your thoughts on this but there are
also many who disagree with you and it is for those people that I made
it available.
I haven't written the pollies off at all and I know that this has some
way to go. A white feather would cause someone like John
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0003/17/pageone/pageone2.html
Should the Prime Minister allow a conscience vote on mandatory
sentencing?
Trudy
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Trudy is basically right - on the surface it does seem as if the 'Liberal
Nine' have put careers ahead of principle. Still, it might be too early to
tell (as she has suggested) whether they have just beaten a tactical retreat
or if they are in fact 'Howard's Cowards'. It's one thing to vote
Funny, how people see things differently! ;-)
When I heard him say that last night, I thought it was a Howard inspired cop-out. This
is just the sort of
thing Howard would say to confuse the issue and misdirect the focus of what was really
being discussed.
IF, and it's a big 'if', politicians
ABC News
Thu, 16 Mar 2000 23:03 AEDT
Liberal rules out crossing
floor on sentencing
A key Federal Liberal MP, Brendan Nelson, has
ruled out crossing the floor to overturn mandatory
sentencing laws for juveniles.
Brendan Nelson is one of several MPs who
strongly oppose mandatory sentencing, who
I don't see the others as cowards because they are just being themselves. They never
claimed to have a conscience and hold out crossing the floor only to back down and
slink away when Howard put his foot down.
The dissenters had the numbers to pass the bill. Crossing the floor is not unknown
Hi Tim,
I searched high and low for that letter in the print edition and the online version
and it has not been
published. Maybe they will do so tomorrow for the weekend edition but if they don't, I
will contact the
Herald and ask about it.
Trudy
tdunlop wrote:
PS: Trudy: Have you come
Graham's probably right, and really, it's the other Libs, the ones
who wouldn't even put their hands up, who are the cowards here.
Nelson et al have at least declared themselves on this issue, and
can possibly be helpful in a future challenge to the laws. The issue
isn't going to go away.
Trudy wrote:
When I heard him say that last night, I thought it was a Howard inspired
cop-out. This is just the sort of
thing Howard would say to confuse the issue and misdirect the focus of what
was really being discussed.
IF, and it's a big 'if', politicians really behaved like that, there
tdunlop wrote:
My only point was really to address the question of how we
know we are right about something, but maybe that wasn't clear. To that
extent Nelson's comments were interesting, even if they apparently duped
people like me.
I wasn't implying you were duped. People who care and
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