Re: Installing Fedora Core with root on Reiserfs

2005-07-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 21 July 2005 10:04, Edward Shishkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My phrase "reiserfs.ko located on reiserfs" sounds bad, and I should > clarify that the reiserfs.ko is contained in the initrd with other > binaries/scripts, and this initrd looks fine from the standpoint of > kernel/reise

Re: Installing Fedora Core with root on Reiserfs

2005-07-19 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 19 July 2005 01:59, Jeff Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If the root file system is reiserfs then reiserfs.ko will (or at least > >> should) be included in the initrd. > > > > Right, but initrd is in /boot which is not something separate: it is on > > the same reiserfs root parti

Re: Installing Fedora Core with root on Reiserfs

2005-07-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Monday 18 July 2005 06:01, Edward Shishkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FC4-test3 (and perhaps FC4) installs its own version of grub which seems > to interact incorrectly with reiserfs. The problem is that reiserfs.ko > module located on reiserfs partition can not be loaded. Firstly there is no

Re: Write-once file system

2003-06-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 03:09, Jason Holt wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Fong Vang wrote: > > I don't think turning the write option off during write is a good idea. > > All file systems running reiserfs should make the file write-once. File > > systems that do need to be rewriteable will use ext3 or

Re: xattr

2003-06-19 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:55, Chris Mason wrote: > > So the longest value I've used is 38 bytes. > > Then data=journal mode will do what you want. You'll get atomic writes > up to 4k. If you really don't want data=journal for the rest of the FS, > we can make an option for using data logging on xatt

Re: xattr

2003-06-19 Thread Russell Coker
On the topic of atomic xattr operations on ReiserFS as needed for the new LSM/SE Linux operations. On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:52, Chris Mason wrote: > How big are the xattrs you have in mind? We can get atomic writes of 4k > in length but beyond that things get more difficult. Most of them will be

xattr

2003-06-16 Thread Russell Coker
What is the status of xattr support in 2.5.x? How is journalling of xattr's being handled? For correct operation of SE Linux we need to have the xattr that is used for the security context be changed atomically, and if a file is created and immediately has the xattr set then ideally we would ha

another IDE-DISK issue in 2.4.21-rc3

2003-05-30 Thread Russell Coker
I have finally installed 2.4.21-rc3. I compiled the base IDE driver into the kernel but make the ide-disk driver a module (to save RAM on machines without IDE hardware). Following is a selection from the kernel message log. As you can see I get some nasty and worrying error messages when the

Re: Multiple data streams...

2003-04-02 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 19:28, Anders Widman wrote: >Is this supported, or will it be supported by ReiserFS? >I use this feature quite quite much.. Maybe this is something to >add to ReiserFS? > >There is very brief info at Microsoft's website: Does MS support multiple data streams p

Re: International Web Services/XML Conference & Expo -July 28-30, 2003, Toronto, Canada

2003-03-29 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:57, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I'd like to report this to the sender's ISP, but can't find the Received: > header from when it entered Namesys. Where is it? The ReiserFS list has always munged email so you can't report spam. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security

Re: filesystem corruption ?

2003-03-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:07, Oleg Drokin wrote: > I've learn in the school that if you put some bit amount of plumbum in It's better known in English as "lead". The problem with lead is that it's poisonous and soft. Having to wash your hands after touching your computer could get annoying. Other

Re: Corrupted/unreadable journal: reiser vs. ext3

2003-02-12 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:26, Anders Widman wrote: > >> Unplanned downtime do cause lot of harm to any business. > > > > It's better to stop when there's a serious error than to blindly continue > > and make things worse. > > I (and I think no one else) never said continue blindly. Most > use

Re: OT: Swapfile to RAM relation with 2.4.2X+

2003-02-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:47, Manuel Krause wrote: > In the beginning of 2.4.0+ a relation of swapfile-to-RAM of 2-to-1 was > recommended. Due to my several system changes to come in those times I Such recommendations are only generalisations. Ignore them and look at what your system is doing. If y

Re: kernel go-slow

2003-02-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:32, Alexander Lyamin wrote: > > > One problem that has started occuring is that periodically some of the > > > machines will go really slow for a while. It's as if the CPU speed has > > > just dropped to 1% of it's regular speed. Then after 10 minutes or so > > > it will con

kernel go-slow

2003-02-02 Thread Russell Coker
I'm running a number of machines with 2.4.20 and the ReiserFS journal patches. One problem that has started occuring is that periodically some of the machines will go really slow for a while. It's as if the CPU speed has just dropped to 1% of it's regular speed. Then after 10 minutes or so it

kswapd CPU usage and heavy disk IO

2003-01-09 Thread Russell Coker
I have a server with 4G of RAM running ReiserFS for everything that matters. It has 2G of swap space free, but so far I have not seen swap usage go above 1.6M (so in normal use I could turn off swap entirely and expect not to see much difference). When it's under really heavy load (when I have

Re: !?!

2003-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:53, Anton Erofeevskij wrote: > in reiserfs filesystem > time cat sd1 | ./a.out > sd2 > 0.00user 0.05system 0:01.79elapsed 2%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k > 0inputs+0outputs (131major+43minor)pagefaults 0swaps > > in ext2 filesystem > time cat sd1 | ./a.out > sd2 > 0.00

Re: what do you do that stresses your filesystem?

2002-12-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:56, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On machines with Linux md RAID arrays that need to be remirrored, > I do end up waiting a bit (10-30 seconds) due to read starvation, but > this problem is so much better than it used to be it's hardly worth > mentioning. One thing I've done befo

/proc/mounts and data=journal

2002-12-19 Thread Russell Coker
I've applied the patches for mounting with data=journal. However one problem that I have discovered is that the data=journal status of a file system is not shown in /proc/mounts, other tunable options of a file system such as noatime are shown. I think that this is a bug. -- http://www.coker

non volatile ram devices

2002-12-04 Thread Russell Coker
I have some servers that are giving inadequate disk performance for Maildir mail spools. They are running kernel 2.4.19 (2.4.20 upgrade is planned) and using ReiserFS for everything that's important. At this stage it is impossible for me to replace disks, RAID controllers, or anything else rea

Re: other OS

2002-12-03 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 05:11, darren wrote: > Was just wondering about the possibilities of using reiserfs on my > Solaris 6 machine. > > Any chance of that? I doubt it. I can't imagine Sun (or anyone else) paying Hans enough money to do this. Veritas VXFS is good for this type of thing. Any time

2.4.20 and data logging

2002-12-03 Thread Russell Coker
How is data logging work going? Is there a patch for 2.4.20? -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russel

[reiserfs-list] back up to disk

2002-10-15 Thread Russell Coker
Here's an interesting article I just read. It's just a device with a bunch of ATA drives inside, up to 2T of storage. Probably anyone here could produce something based on ReiserFS to compete with it... Storage start-up Avamar Technologies is launching an appliance this week that it claims

Re: [reiserfs-list] Reiserfs with Samba vs NetApp Filer

2002-10-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:42, Hans Reiser wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > >See the following graph: > >http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/hardware/46g.png > > > >This shows testing a single 46G drive, two drives on different buses at > > the same time, and two drives

[reiserfs-list] This list is good for spammers.

2002-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
There has been a huge amount of spam coming through this list recently. Could the list master please take the following actions: 1) Make the list server software not strip all headers so we can see how the messages get to the list server? Then we could report spam to SpamCop, and people wit

Re: [reiserfs-list] fsync() Performance Issue

2002-04-29 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 22:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting to note your email address and what it implies... > I'm wondering if anyone out there may have some suggestions on how > to improve the performance of a system employing fsync(). I have to be able > to guaranty that every

Re: [reiserfs-list] Encryption plugin developer needed for reiser4

2002-03-12 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:43, Sam Vilain wrote: > > I've done some benchmarking of the old "international kernel patch" and > > found it to be usable on small systems. > > Done it recently? > > hoffman:~$ df . crypto/ > Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda7

Re: [reiserfs-list] O/T but expert answer needed: MS says NTFS does full data journaling

2002-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:25, Paul Robertson wrote: > > When a maching gets an Oops or BSOD condition then the kernel is > > inherantly > > > doing improper and unpredictable things with memory. Therefore > > regardless > > of > > > what file system you use it could get trashed and data could get lo

Re: [reiserfs-list] O/T but expert answer needed: MS says NTFS does full data journaling

2002-02-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:26:59 +1300, Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >Does Windows journal the metadata, data or both? > > > >Answer: Windows NT/2000 systems that utilize NTFS since NT3.1 have > >always journalled and logg

Re: [reiserfs-list] Can ReiserFS handle removable storage?

2002-01-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:28, Oleg Drokin wrote: > > USB by it's nature is something external to the system. Unplugging a USB > > cable with a mounted drive attached should (IMHO) get the same result as > > unplugging an Ethernet cable with an NFS mount in progress. This means > > processes go into

[reiserfs-list] transient hard drive error causing problems

2002-01-16 Thread Russell Coker
Below is the relevant portion of my dmesg output. I get a status error on my first hard drive (it's a transient thing after a hard reset). There are a few issues here: The dmesg output does not tell me which partition the error refers to! I can presume that it's related to the error on hda, b

Re: [reiserfs-list] Journal Questions

2002-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:11, pesarif wrote: > 1. How big is the journal? 32M. It is possible to change this, but currently that requires recompiling your kernel (and running an altered mkreiserfs). Then a regular kernel won't mount them. It's painful enough that you don't want to do it. Hans h

Re: [reiserfs-list] When will Reiserfs be ready?

2002-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:42, _nasturtium wrote: > > All of the blathering and silliness removed. Short version: Russell > > made a few comments to explain some stuff on the assumption that > > Nasturtium was actually asking honest questions. Nasturtium made a > > number of ad hominem attacks. Blah

Re: [reiserfs-list] When will Reiserfs be ready?

2002-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:14, Andre Pang wrote: > Some people need to run Windows to run various applications. > It has many apps available which Linux does not; accept it. If Absolutely. In this case if you are doing sales then you MUST have MS software. There are enough hassles in applying for a

Re: [reiserfs-list] magic is useless & Determining File Types

2002-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:49, Hans Reiser wrote: > >There is an issue of going completly overboard, > >"attribute/subattribute/subsubattribute" anybody? This is certainly an > >overall interesting idea. How about "file//acl" for accessing ACLs? This > >does mean though you *MUST* have a filesystem spe

Re: [reiserfs-list] When will Reiserfs be ready?

2002-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:15, _nasturtium wrote: > > > I was reading the FAQ on www.namesys.com and it seems Reiser4 is > > > sponsored (but not endorsed by...) by DARPA (Defence Advanced Research > > > Projects Agency?). That seems like a good source of funds compared to > > > your support business -

Re: [reiserfs-list] magic is useless & Determining File Types

2002-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:12, Hans Reiser wrote: > >I'm quite familiar with the hardware that Russell talks about (I've > >had to debug more than one borked CCW chain in my life ;). Although > >*conceptually* an indexed file is a directory, the IBM mainframe > >channel does some things that take the

Re: [reiserfs-list] When will Reiserfs be ready?

2002-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:48, _nasturtium wrote: > > > > What has happened to NTFS performance? During the Windows NT 3.5 > > > > days it was the slowest FS in production use, particularly for small > > > > files. Has this changed? (Should I go from FAT32 to NTFS on my > > > > laptop windows partiti

Re: [reiserfs-list] When will Reiserfs be ready?

2002-01-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:14, _nasturtium wrote: > I was reading the FAQ on www.namesys.com and it seems Reiser4 is sponsored > (but not endorsed by...) by DARPA (Defence Advanced Research Projects > Agency?). That seems like a good source of funds compared to your support > business - your Support pa

Re: [reiserfs-list] magic is useless & Determining File Types

2002-01-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 01:15, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote: > Same thing for BeOS - floppies are FAT16 format (you can format for > BFS but with the journal etc, there's 300KB of space for data), > there's also FAT32 for Windows disk partitions and several other > file systems. Some, like Mac HFS supp

Re: [reiserfs-list] XDSM and ReiserFS

2001-12-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OK, so shopper.com has an LTO tape drive for only U$2800, and cartridges > > for U$95 for a 100GB tape ($.95/GB). It also has 80GB IDE drives for > > $139 ($1.73/GB), and 160GB drives for U$289 ($1.80/GB). Choosing the > > 80GB drive for co

[reiserfs-list] Re: XDSM and ReiserFS

2001-12-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:41, you wrote: > > DLT and other magnetic tape are a much better option than DVD. > > DLT drives storing 15G on a tape are common I believe. > > Increasing the capacity of tape is much easier than increasing > > the capacity of disks (you can always make bigger reels and > >

Re: [reiserfs-list] funny file permission after reiserfsck

2001-12-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:15, W. Wilson Ho wrote: > Hi all, > > After I've run reiserfsck on my disk, I have a file with 0 permission: > > # ls -l > 0- 1 root root 238 Dec 11 22:52 lk > > This file is not readable. Adding "rw" permission to it does not > make it readable

[reiserfs-list] per-char IO tests

2001-12-09 Thread Russell Coker
I have released a new experimental version of Bonnie++ that includes a program to test per-char IO using putc()/getc(), putc()/getc() when linked in a non-threaded way (significantly improves performance) putc_unlocked()/getc_unlocked(), and write()/read(). Here's the results of testing my Thi

Re: [reiserfs-list] Problem in upgrading kernel 2.4.9->2.4.13, something with reiserfs?

2001-10-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:46, Petri J. Riipinen wrote: > I'm not sure where else to ask this, but I thought that it might have > something to do with reiserfs, so I decided to bother you guys because I > guess that I would find the best experts on this mailing list...;) > > The problem is this: I up

Re: [reiserfs-list] Linux 2.4.10 + reiserfs + raid

2001-10-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 07:32, Clement wrote: > I just set up a box with RH 7.1, updated with Linux Kernel 2.4.10, compiled > with reiserfs and raid support. > > I can define RAID-1 partitions and 'mkreiserfs /dev/md0' and mount/umount > the partition with no trouble at all. However, once I reboot the

Re: [reiserfs-list] pull vs. push: remind me why?

2001-09-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 19:29, Hans Reiser wrote: > I remember that pull is generally favored over push for things like copying > and synchronizing data over networks, but I completely forget why as it has > been a few years. Anyone care to remind me? When doing pull you just setup a server and let p

Re: [reiserfs-list] /etc/magic

2001-07-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:07, Nikita Danilov wrote: > Russell Coker writes: > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:39, Nikita Danilov wrote: > > > > Also here is an entry for swap files: > > > > 0xff6 string SWAP-SPACE Version 0 Swap file for 4K pages > > &g

Re: [reiserfs-list] /etc/magic

2001-07-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:39, Nikita Danilov wrote: > > Also here is an entry for swap files: > > 0xff6 string SWAP-SPACE Version 0 Swap file for 4K pages > > By the way, I just found that my perfectly valid reiserfs file-system > triggers above check. It was created on what was earlier swap dev

Re: [reiserfs-list] /etc/magic

2001-07-16 Thread Russell Coker
> > What do you think of the following? > > s/short/leshort/ > s/long/lelong/ Thanks for the suggestion guys. I have submitted a bug report to the Debian BTS. Could someone please submit bug reports for Red Hat etc? I presume that Suse is getting this right. ;) 0x10034 string ReIsErFs R

Re: [reiserfs-list] /etc/magic

2001-07-16 Thread Russell Coker
What do you think of the following? 0x10034 string ReIsErFs ReiserFS V3.5 0x10034 string ReIsEr2Fs ReiserFS V3.6 >0x1002c short x block size %d >0x10032 short &2 (mounted or unclean) >0x1 long x num blocks %d >0x10040 long =1 tea hash >0x10040 long =2 yura hash >0x10040 long =3 r5

Re: [reiserfs-list] /etc/magic

2001-07-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:56, Nikita Danilov wrote: > Russell Coker writes: > > Could someone please write up some /etc/magic entries for reiserfs? > > > > I think it should be something like: > > 0x10034 string ReIsErFs Old Reiserfs > > 0x10034 string ReIsEr2F

Re: [reiserfs-list] Re: benchmarks

2001-07-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:00, Nikita Danilov wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 02:01:09PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote: > > > > > > > > Making the server stateless is wrong > > > > > > > > why? > > > > > > Because it leads to all the problems we have seen! Why not have the > > > client

[reiserfs-list] /etc/magic

2001-07-16 Thread Russell Coker
Could someone please write up some /etc/magic entries for reiserfs? I think it should be something like: 0x10034 string ReIsErFs Old Reiserfs 0x10034 string ReIsEr2Fs New Reiserfs But that doesn't work for some reason... -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark ht

Re: [reiserfs-list] CPU useage of ReiserFS

2001-07-02 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 30 June 2001 20:29, Jens Benecke wrote: > I just had a, er, 'lively' discussion with someone claiming ReiserFS is > crap because it hogs even the fastest CPU too much, and it uses 4x as > much processing power to do metadata operations, and in general is > slower because of the journal

Re: [reiserfs-list] Frequent disk accesses (sync?) on laptop

2001-06-24 Thread Russell Coker
nie++-1.92b/ less bon_csv2html.1 bug ppp cd fg su - exit rjc@lyta:~$ sync rjc@lyta:~$ sync rjc@lyta:~$ sync rjc@lyta:~$ sync rjc@lyta:~$ sync rjc@lyta:~$ sync rjc@lyta:~$ sync > On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:33:29AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > I have my ReiserFS partitions mounted with noatime

Re: [reiserfs-list] kernel-2.4.6-pre3 to 2.2.19 NFS tests

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 22 June 2001 14:28, Christian Mayrhuber wrote: > > Try testing with Bonnie++, the file creation and deletion tests will > > give interesting results! ;) > > > > In one test I had an AIX machine that was moderately grunty (two fast > > POWER CPU's, 6 hard drives on a 160MB/s bus, 256M of

Re: [reiserfs-list] optimizing reiserfs for large files?

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 23 June 2001 01:11, Lars O. Grobe wrote: > > Also neither of those results is what you should expect from modern > > hardware. Machines that were typically sold in corner stores about a > > year ago (such as the machine under my desk) return results better > > than that. I have attac

Re: [reiserfs-list] reiserfs-raw

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Monday 18 June 2001 21:57, Henrik Nordstrom wrote: > For Squid it would become very interesting if in some time (lets say > about a year, maybe more) there is a good volatile permanent object > store similar to reiserfs-raw but with a slightly more flexible > application interface. One thing I

Re: [reiserfs-list] optimizing reiserfs for large files?

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 14 June 2001 12:18, grobe wrote: > I have a significant loss of performance in bonnie tests. The "writing > intelligently"-test > e.g. gives me 20710 kB/s with reiserfs, while I get 24753 kB/s with > ext2 (1 GB-file). How much RAM do you have? If you have more than 512M of RAM then t

Re: [reiserfs-list] kernel-2.4.6-pre3 to 2.2.19 NFS tests

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 14 June 2001 15:51, Christian Mayrhuber wrote: > I've run bonnie on nfs over a 10MBit/s network on a ext2 and > a reiserfs partition on the same disk. > > The Bad: > > The performance loss to ext2 on the same disk ist quit drastic, about > 25% and this is only over a 10MBit/s

Re: [reiserfs-list] Frequent disk accesses (sync?) on laptop

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 16 June 2001 21:37, Hans Reiser wrote: > > It's the atime update. every time you run 'sync', the sync program's > > atime is updated. the next sync writes this atime update, then sync > > gets updated again... > > thanks brent, nikita make a faq entry out of this. I have my ReiserFS

[reiserfs-list] Released Bonnie++ 1.92a

2001-06-12 Thread Russell Coker
This experimental version now has a "-z" command-line option to specify the seed for random number generation as suggested by several people on this list. When I do repeated runs of it I don't see results being any closer together than when using different random seeds. But it will hopefully

Re: [reiserfs-list] Slow quotas building process ?

2001-06-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 01 June 2001 13:34, Philippe Gramoulle wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > > I don't know if this explains the performance you are seeing, > > however I guess if you have slow CPU and high numbered UID's it > > could cause it... > > I've redone th

Re: [reiserfs-list] filesystem interfaces

2001-05-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Monday 21 May 2001 23:50, Ragnar Kjørstad wrote: > t=start_transaction(); > fd=transaction_open(t, filename, mode); > ret=transaction_write(t, fd, buffer, size); > transaction_close(t, fd); > commit_transaction(t); > > would be nice. The problem with that is what happens when you use libraries

Re: [reiserfs-list] filesystem interfaces

2001-05-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 19 May 2001 19:20, Matthias Andree wrote: > > The caller should be able to wait for fsync to complete by using poll in > > the case of asyn fsync. > > It would require introducing a special syscall, I believe. However, in > that case, fsync should also sync all meta data related to fil