Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Paul Mundt
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:48:25AM +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote: For Suspend2, we ended up converting the LZF support to a cryptoapi plugin. Is there any chance that you could use cryptoapi modules? We could then have a hope of sharing the support. Using cryptoapi plugins for the compression

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 06:05 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having very low CPU usage (the best of those written and GPL'd, there is a slightly better one

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 13:59 +0900, Paul Mundt wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:48:25AM +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote: For Suspend2, we ended up converting the LZF support to a cryptoapi plugin. Is there any chance that you could use cryptoapi modules? We could then have a hope of

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-27 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:34:26 +0400 Alexey Dobriyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patch below is so-called reiser4 LZO compression plugin as extracted from 2.6.18-rc4-mm3. I think it is an unauditable piece of shit and thus should not enter mainline. Like lib/inflate.c (and this new code

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-27 Thread Ray Lee
On 8/27/06, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:34:26 +0400 Alexey Dobriyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patch below is so-called reiser4 LZO compression plugin as extracted from 2.6.18-rc4-mm3. I think it is an unauditable piece of shit and thus should not enter

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-27 Thread David Masover
Andrew Morton wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:34:26 +0400 Alexey Dobriyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patch below is so-called reiser4 LZO compression plugin as extracted from 2.6.18-rc4-mm3. I think it is an unauditable piece of shit and thus should not enter mainline. Like lib/inflate.c

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-23 Thread Laurent Riffard
Le 22.08.2006 15:08, Alexander Zarochentsev a écrit : Hello, On 12 August 2006 17:26, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 03.08.2006 17:07, Laurent Riffard a écrit : Le 03.08.2006 08:09, Alexander Zarochentsev a écrit : On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006 21:55,

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-22 Thread Alexander Zarochentsev
Hello, On 12 August 2006 17:26, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 03.08.2006 17:07, Laurent Riffard a écrit : Le 03.08.2006 08:09, Alexander Zarochentsev a écrit : On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006 21:55, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello What kind of

Re: Reiser4 stress test.

2006-08-22 Thread Andrew James Wade
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:23, Hans Reiser wrote: Thanks Andrew, please be patient and persistent with us at this time, as one programmer is on vacation, and the other is only able to work a few hours a day due to an illness. No problem. I'll post what I find to the list; the posts will

Re: Reiser4 stress test.

2006-08-22 Thread Andrew James Wade
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:23, Hans Reiser wrote: Thanks Andrew, please be patient and persistent with us at this time, as one programmer is on vacation, and the other is only able to work a few hours a day due to an illness. No problem. I'll post what I find to the list; the posts will

Re: Reiser4 stress test.

2006-08-21 Thread Hans Reiser
Thanks Andrew, please be patient and persistent with us at this time, as one programmer is on vacation, and the other is only able to work a few hours a day due to an illness. Hans

Re: reiser4 nfsroot problem

2006-08-17 Thread Prakash Punnoor
Am Donnerstag 17 August 2006 18:35 schrieb Prakash Punnoor: Hi, Using the reiser4 patch 3 for 2.6.17 with a 2.6.18-rc4 kernel (I ported the reiser4 patch by hand with help of mm kernel...) I wasn't able to boot a nfsroot client with the image residing on a master with reiser4 partition. The

Re: reiser4 nfsroot problem

2006-08-17 Thread Alexander Zarochentsev
Hello, On 17 August 2006 20:38, Prakash Punnoor wrote: Am Donnerstag 17 August 2006 18:35 schrieb Prakash Punnoor: Hi, Using the reiser4 patch 3 for 2.6.17 with a 2.6.18-rc4 kernel (I ported the reiser4 patch by hand with help of mm kernel...) I wasn't able to boot a nfsroot client

Re: reiser4 nfsroot problem

2006-08-17 Thread Prakash Punnoor
Am Donnerstag 17 August 2006 19:36 schrieb Alexander Zarochentsev: Hello, On 17 August 2006 20:38, Prakash Punnoor wrote: Am Donnerstag 17 August 2006 18:35 schrieb Prakash Punnoor: Hi, Using the reiser4 patch 3 for 2.6.17 with a 2.6.18-rc4 kernel (I ported the reiser4 patch by

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-14 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Saturday 12 August 2006 17:26, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 03.08.2006 17:07, Laurent Riffard a écrit : Le 03.08.2006 08:09, Alexander Zarochentsev a écrit : On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006 21:55, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello What

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-14 Thread Laurent Riffard
Le 14.08.2006 13:50, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello On Saturday 12 August 2006 17:26, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 03.08.2006 17:07, Laurent Riffard a écrit : Le 03.08.2006 08:09, Alexander Zarochentsev a écrit : On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-12 Thread Laurent Riffard
Le 03.08.2006 17:07, Laurent Riffard a écrit : Le 03.08.2006 08:09, Alexander Zarochentsev a écrit : On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006 21:55, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello What kind of load did you run on reiser4 at that time? I just formatted a

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-09 Thread Christian Trefzer
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 12:01:42AM -0400, David Masover wrote: A warning isn't good? Would you rather it be an error? Of course not. It merely appears inconsistent to offer a root fs choice that may cause severe problems at bootup time. When I went to install my first SuSE (brand-new 6.1 at

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread Sander Sweers
On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 20:05 -0400, David Masover wrote: Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello David, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:23:01 AM, you wrote: Sounds good. I don't have an ubuntu to test with at the moment, though. Well, both MS Virtual PC and VMWare are free of charge, so installing

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread Christian Trefzer
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 01:09:42PM -0400, David Masover wrote: Christian Trefzer wrote: Few people keep a 32MB ext2 for /boot purposes these days, so it really is imperative that grub can read kernel images off a reiser4 /. I think there are patches, but I do keep a 32 meg ext3 for

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread Sarath Menon
On 8/8/06, Christian Trefzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grub is a bootloader and as such should (as an optimum) be able to grab kernels off of any fs. I guess patches are accepted by upstream developers? Grub v1 (The one we all know) is alpha status according to their devs. Its no longer under

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 2:05:23 AM, you wrote: Under what, though? I don't want MS crap on my OS X (need that for work ATM), and I can't imagine they've ported it to Linux. I have no reason to boot Windows except for games, and if I was going to do that, I may as well shrink

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread Christian Trefzer
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 04:23:16PM +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: I tried to create a kernel package with reiser4 for ubuntu-server (dapper) They ship a 2.6.15 (heavily modified) kernel upon which the current reiser4-for-2.6.17-3.patch applies fine but unfortunately miscompiles, eg.

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread David Masover
Christian Trefzer wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 04:23:16PM +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: There also is an issue with grub. The kernel alone is fine for creating partitions (or loop devices) but with grub not patched we can't install boot partitions. No biggy, I guess, but still a problem.

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Monday, August 7, 2006, 7:09:42 PM, you wrote: I mean, having Grub support everything would be nice, but if you're reformatting anyway, I don't think it's that imperative. I have come up to that conclusion too. If someone would be getting an r4-enabled kernel on an already

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread David Masover
Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello David, hi I have built today an r4-patched ubuntu kernel package (yes, debs!) Sounds good. I don't have an ubuntu to test with at the moment, though. Please note, that this is done all under virtualization (Microsoft Virtual PC). Not to nitpick, but isn't

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:23:01 AM, you wrote: Sounds good. I don't have an ubuntu to test with at the moment, though. Well, both MS Virtual PC and VMWare are free of charge, so installing is a real snap. Not to nitpick, but isn't that emulation? Or have they actually done

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread David Masover
Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello David, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:23:01 AM, you wrote: Sounds good. I don't have an ubuntu to test with at the moment, though. Well, both MS Virtual PC and VMWare are free of charge, so installing is a real snap. Under what, though? I don't want MS crap on my

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-06 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
I know it is very easy to create ubuntu kernel packages (I have done a few) I might try to do one for current dapper kernel for i386. But it would have to wait due to time my personal constraints (projects, etc.) Answering myself... I tried to create a kernel package with reiser4 for

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-04 Thread David Masover
Theodore Tso wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:55:57AM -0500, David Masover wrote: If I understand it right, the original Reiser4 model of file metadata is the file-as-directory stuff that caused such a furor the last big push for inclusion (search for Silent semantic changes in Reiser4):

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-03 Thread Alexander Zarochentsev
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006 21:55, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello What kind of load did you run on reiser4 at that time? I just formatted a new 2GB Reiser4 FS, then I moved a whole ccache cache tree to this new FS (cache size was about

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-03 Thread Theodore Tso
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:55:57AM -0500, David Masover wrote: If I understand it right, the original Reiser4 model of file metadata is the file-as-directory stuff that caused such a furor the last big push for inclusion (search for Silent semantic changes in Reiser4): The furor was caused

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: [...] Are there any on the list who know of rpm's for Suse/Redhat/Mandrake that include reiser4? Suse excluded reiser4 from 10.1 because they want to keep the kernel cleaner than

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 10:55 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: [...] Are there any on the list who know of rpm's for Suse/Redhat/Mandrake that include reiser4? One more

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Hans Reiser
Marcel Hilzinger wrote: Am Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 10:55 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: [...] Are there any on the list who know of rpm's for

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
It's quite late for inclusion in the next Ubuntu release, but who knows. Maybe it is not, it's a playground, Mark would not hesitate to postpone Edgy's release if it requires polishing the whole thing due to edgy features. Could you contact him for us, and ask? It is more convincing when users

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Sander Sweers
On 03/08/06, Maciej Sołtysiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's quite late for inclusion in the next Ubuntu release, but who knows. Maybe it is not, it's a playground, Mark would not hesitate to postpone Edgy's release if it requires polishing the whole thing due to edgy features. Could you

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-03 Thread Laurent Riffard
Le 03.08.2006 08:09, Alexander Zarochentsev a écrit : On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006 21:55, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello What kind of load did you run on reiser4 at that time? I just formatted a new 2GB Reiser4 FS, then I moved a whole ccache

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-02 Thread Hans Reiser
Sander Sweers wrote: With the approval of Namesys I would like to add a new entry to the wiki frontpage. It would be very appreciated.

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Hans Reiser
Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:26:55 +0100 Denis Vlasenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reiser4 thread seem to be longer than usual. Meanwhile here's poor old me trying to find another four hours to finish reviewing the thing. Thanks Andrew. The writeout code is ugly,

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-08-01 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Monday, July 31, 2006, 11:46:34 PM, you wrote: You must be new here... ;-) I wanted to point out that because: Options B and C are all that ever seems to happen when reiserfs-list and lkml collide. and: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant. The

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 20:18 -0600, Hans Reiser wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: The writeout code is ugly, although that's largely due to a mismatch between what reiser4 wants to do and what the VFS/MM expects it to do. Yes. reiser4 writeouts atoms. Most of pages get into atoms via

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:24:37 +0400 Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The writeout code is ugly, although that's largely due to a mismatch between what reiser4 wants to do and what the VFS/MM expects it to do. Yes. reiser4 writeouts atoms. Most of pages get into atoms via

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 07:33 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:24:37 +0400 Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The writeout code is ugly, although that's largely due to a mismatch between what reiser4 wants to do and what the VFS/MM expects it to do.

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread David Masover
Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: Do you think that if reiser4 supported xattrs - it would increase its chances on inclusion? Probably the opposite. If I understand it right, the original Reiser4 model of file metadata is the file-as-directory stuff that caused such a furor the last big push for

Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-01 Thread Sander Sweers
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 13:28 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello David, Monday, July 31, 2006, 11:46:34 PM, you wrote: You must be new here... ;-) I wanted to point out that because: Options B and C are all that ever seems to happen when reiserfs-list and lkml collide. and:

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Nate Diller
On 8/1/06, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:24:37 +0400 Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The writeout code is ugly, although that's largely due to a mismatch between what reiser4 wants to do and what the VFS/MM expects it to do. Yes. reiser4

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-01 Thread Alexander Zarochentsev
Hello Ingo, there is a new reiser4 / lock validator problem: On Sunday 30 July 2006 22:57, Laurent Riffard wrote: === [ INFO: possible circular locking dependency detected ] --- mv/29012

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Nate Diller
On 8/1/06, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: Do you think that if reiser4 supported xattrs - it would increase its chances on inclusion? Probably the opposite. If I understand it right, the original Reiser4 model of file metadata is the file-as-directory

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-01 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello Sander, Tuesday, August 1, 2006, 8:10:34 PM, you wrote: Yes, and in case of gentoo there are already people maintaining an ebuild which pull in r4 on the wiki. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Reiser4_With_Gentoo-Sources Debian has reiser4progs and kernel-patch-2.6-reiser4: - stable:

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-01 Thread Sander Sweers
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello Sander, Hey Tuesday, August 1, 2006, 8:10:34 PM, you wrote: Yes, and in case of gentoo there are already people maintaining an ebuild which pull in r4 on the wiki. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Reiser4_With_Gentoo-Sources

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread David Masover
Nate Diller wrote: On 8/1/06, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: I could be entirely wrong, though. I speak for neither Hans/Namesys/reiserfs nor LKML. Talk amongst yourselves... i should clarify things a bit here. yes, hans' goal is for there to be no

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread Hans Reiser
I think that most of our problem is that we are too socially insulated from lkml. They are a herd, and decide things based on what thoughts echo most loudly. That none of the shy developers working for me actively post on lkml hurts us quite a bit. It might even be socially effective to shut

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread David Masover
Hans Reiser wrote: I think that most of our problem is that we are too socially insulated from lkml. They are a herd, and decide things based on what thoughts echo most loudly. To be fair, it's not the whole lkml you have to convince, just the few people directly responsible for filesystems

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread Dan Oglesby
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 03:08 -0500, David Masover wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: It might even be socially effective to shut down reiserfs-list until inclusion occurs. Maybe. It will be an inconvenience for me, if we have to. I'm not even on LKML, and I'd rather not be -- even this list can

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-07-31 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello What kind of load did you run on reiser4 at that time? On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 20:57 +0200, Laurent Riffard wrote: === [ INFO: possible circular locking dependency detected ] ---

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-07-31 Thread Laurent Riffard
Le 31.07.2006 21:55, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello What kind of load did you run on reiser4 at that time? I just formatted a new 2GB Reiser4 FS, then I moved a whole ccache cache tree to this new FS (cache size was about 20~30 Mbytes). Something like: # mkfs.reiser4

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Monday, July 31, 2006, 1:30:47 AM, you wrote: Amen. I do not want to see Reiser4 not succeed because of politics, and it really looks like the only way to win the political war is not to play. The technical stuff is really the last way in, but neither side has said anything

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread David Masover
Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello David, - it is more expensive to: a) succeed at kernel inclusion b) argue c) waste time You must be new here... Options B and C are all that ever seems to happen when reiserfs-list and lkml collide. Is option A possible? The speed of a nonworking

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-30 Thread David Masover
Christian Trefzer wrote: Hi, I booted 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 today and later filled up my /opt partition by accident, and guess what, reiser4 did not screw up : D Hmm, I'm curious, though... How does it react to a few billion files? Sorry, I can't test this, but I will be testing MythTV, if not

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-30 Thread Joe Feise
Christian Trefzer wrote on 07/30/06 15:38: Hi, I booted 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 today and later filled up my /opt partition by accident, and guess what, reiser4 did not screw up : D Lucky you. I tried -rc2-mm1 today, and out of habit, the first thing I do is an fsck on my reiser4 partitions. And

Re: portage tree (Was: Re: reiser4 status (correction))

2006-07-23 Thread Hans Reiser
Thanks Christian. You can go ahead and add something to our wiki pointing to it if you would like. This might help tide people over until the repacker ships. Hans

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-23 Thread Hans Reiser
Mike Benoit wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 07:34 -0500, David Masover wrote: The compression will probably mostly be about speed. Remember, if we're talking about people who want to see tangible, visceral results, we're probably also talking about end-users. And trust me, the vast majority

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-22 Thread Hans Reiser
David Masover wrote: And it's not just databases. Consider BitTorrent. The usual BitTorrent way of doing things is to create a sparse file, then fill it in randomly as you receive data. Only if you decide to allocate the whole file right away, instead of making it sparse, you gain

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-22 Thread Mike Benoit
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 23:53 -0600, Hans Reiser wrote: We have 3 levels of optimization: 1) at each modification, 2) at each flush, and 3) at each repack. Each of these operates on a different time scale, and all 3 are worthy of doing as right as we can. Now, the issue of where should

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-22 Thread David Masover
Mike Benoit wrote: Could you not also write a small little app that gathers all kinds of stats about a file system and sends it to a Namesys server in hopes of finding better statistical data? I'm sure there are thousands of users Assuming the results are all made available, essentially

portage tree (Was: Re: reiser4 status (correction))

2006-07-22 Thread Christian Trefzer
Hi, The portage tree is such a fine testing object since it should be sort of a best case scenario for reiser filesystems, and needs no real backup in case of a screwup during tests. I've been on Gentoo for years now, used reiser3 since the days when you had to patch it into a 2.2 kernel and

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-22 Thread Mike Benoit
On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 07:34 -0500, David Masover wrote: The compression will probably mostly be about speed. Remember, if we're talking about people who want to see tangible, visceral results, we're probably also talking about end-users. And trust me, the vast majority of most of my

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-22 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello Andreas, Saturday, July 22, 2006, 1:06:54 AM, you wrote: On 17:45 Fri 21 Jul , David Masover wrote: Question, then: Can the ext2 defrag work on a raw ext3 partition, without having to convert it first? Dunno, but I don't think so I tried that once, back in 2002 i think. defrag

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-22 Thread David Masover
Mike Benoit wrote: code. Even just compressing that small portion though I could probably save between 5-10GB. The difference is though I can do a df before, and a df after, and I can instantly see I got my moneys worth. Same with encryption. In the case of encryption, it's also got

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread Hans Reiser
David Masover wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: On a more positive note, Reiser4.1 is getting closer to release Good news! But it's been awhile since I've followed development, and the homepage seems out of date (as usual). Where can I find a list of changes since v4? By out of date, I

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread Sarath Menon
Sigh, no, the repacker will probably be after 4.1 The list of tasks for zam looks something like: fix bugs that arise debug read optimization code (CPU reduction only, has no effect on IO), 1 week est. (would be nice if it was less) review compression code 1 day per week until it

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread David Masover
Hans Reiser wrote: I am not sure that putting the repacker after fsync is the right choice Does the repacker use fsync? I wouldn't expect it to. Does fsync benefit from a properly packed FS? Probably. Also, while I don't expect anyone else to be so bold, there is a way around fsync

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread Mike Benoit
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 02:44 -0600, Hans Reiser wrote: fix fsync performance (est. 1 week of time to make post-commit writes asynchronous, maybe 3 weeks to create fixed-reserve for write twice blocks, and make all fsync blocks write twice) write repacker (12 weeks). I am not sure that

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread David Masover
Mike Benoit wrote: Tuning fsync will fix the last wart on Reiser4 as far as benchmarks are concerned won't it? Right now Reiser4 looks excellent on the benchmarks that don't use fsync often (mongo?), but last I recall the fsync performance was so poor it overshadows the rest of the performance.

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread Mike Benoit
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 16:06 -0500, David Masover wrote: Mike Benoit wrote: Tuning fsync will fix the last wart on Reiser4 as far as benchmarks are concerned won't it? Right now Reiser4 looks excellent on the benchmarks that don't use fsync often (mongo?), but last I recall the fsync

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread Andreas Schäfer
On 14:37 Fri 21 Jul , Mike Benoit wrote: No Linux file system that I'm aware of has a defragmentor, but they DO become fragmented, just not near as bad as FAT32 used to when MS created their defragmentor. Forgotten ext2? ;-) Funny thing: If your ext3 got too fragmented: convert it back to

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread David Masover
Mike Benoit wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 16:06 -0500, David Masover wrote: Mike Benoit wrote: Tuning fsync will fix the last wart on Reiser4 as far as benchmarks are concerned won't it? Right now Reiser4 looks excellent on the benchmarks that don't use fsync often (mongo?), but last I recall

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread David Masover
Andreas Schäfer wrote: On 14:37 Fri 21 Jul , Mike Benoit wrote: No Linux file system that I'm aware of has a defragmentor, but they DO become fragmented, just not near as bad as FAT32 used to when MS created their defragmentor. Forgotten ext2? ;-) Funny thing: If your ext3 got too

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread Andreas Schäfer
On 17:45 Fri 21 Jul , David Masover wrote: Question, then: Can the ext2 defrag work on a raw ext3 partition, without having to convert it first? Dunno, but I don't think so pgp3cS9WVSQCi.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread Mike Benoit
Your detailed explanation is appreciated David and while I'm far from a file system expert, I believe you've overstated the negative effects somewhat. It sounds to me like you've gotten Reiser4's allocation process in regards to wandering logs correct, from what I've read anyways, but I think

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread Hans Reiser
Mike Benoit wrote: On top of that, I don't see how a repacker would help these work loads much as the files usually have a high churn rate. I think Reiserfs is used on a lot more than squid servers. For them, 80% of files don't move for long periods of time is the usual industry statistic

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-21 Thread David Masover
Mike Benoit wrote: Your detailed explanation is appreciated David and while I'm far from a file system expert, I believe you've overstated the negative effects somewhat. It sounds to me like you've gotten Reiser4's allocation process in regards to wandering logs correct, from what I've read

Cannot display some characters anymore [reiser4-2.6.17-1] (was Re: reiser4 for 2.6.16 (version 3))

2006-07-20 Thread Frieder Bürzele
: Frieder Bürzele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: reiser4 for 2.6.16 (version 3) Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: Hello ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiser4-for-2.6/2.6.16/reiser4-for-2.6.16-3.patch.gz contains the most recent reiser4 code which is considered stable

Re: reiser4 status (correction)

2006-07-20 Thread David Masover
Hans Reiser wrote: On a more positive note, Reiser4.1 is getting closer to release Good news! But it's been awhile since I've followed development, and the homepage seems out of date (as usual). Where can I find a list of changes since v4? By out of date, I mean things like this:

Re: reiser4 OOPSes and panics when out of memory

2006-07-19 Thread Jake Maciejewski
Thanks. Now with debug enabled I've gotten: http://people.msoe.edu/~maciejej/patches/AMD64_reiser4_debug/20060719/panic1.txt.gz http://people.msoe.edu/~maciejej/patches/AMD64_reiser4_debug/20060719/fsck1_--check.txt.gz

Re: reiser4 OOPSes and panics when out of memory

2006-07-19 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 07:28 -0600, Jake Maciejewski wrote: Thanks. Now with debug enabled I've gotten: http://people.msoe.edu/~maciejej/patches/AMD64_reiser4_debug/20060719/panic1.txt.gz the attached patch fixes a problem nikita-2967 reports about. Would you please check whther it

Re: reiser4 OOPSes and panics when out of memory

2006-07-19 Thread Jake Maciejewski
I haven't hit nikita-2967 again, but I got several other interesting results. The first panic didn't cause corruption: reiser4 panicked cowardly: reiser4[pdflush(16048)]: scan_by_coord (fs/reiser4/flush.c:3431)[nikita-3435]: Kernel panic - not syncing: reiser4[pdflush(16048)]:

Re: reiser4: possible circular locking dependency

2006-07-18 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 12:24 +0200, Laurent Riffard wrote: Hello, I just got this warning: === [ INFO: possible circular locking dependency detected ] --- nautilus/3229 is trying

Re: reiser4 OOPSes and panics when out of memory

2006-07-18 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 00:52 -0600, Jake Maciejewski wrote: Thanks for the patch, but I can still reproduce the problem. I've been running the attached program to try to speed up the testing process a bit. Interrupting and restarting the compilation loop also seems to help. ok If I

Re: reiser4 OOPSes and panics when out of memory

2006-07-17 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 12:44 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has my previous post (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=reiserfsm=115259665831650w=2) been overlooked, or have I not provided enough information? Do I need to reproduce these issues on 2.6.18-rc1-mm2? Should I be trying any

Re: reiser4 OOPSes and panics when out of memory

2006-07-17 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 18:10 +0400, Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: Hello On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 12:44 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has my previous post (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=reiserfsm=115259665831650w=2) been overlooked, or have I not provided enough information? Do I

Re: reiser4 OOPSes and panics when out of memory

2006-07-17 Thread Jake Maciejewski
Thanks for the patch, but I can still reproduce the problem. I've been running the attached program to try to speed up the testing process a bit. Interrupting and restarting the compilation loop also seems to help. If I had hours to wait, it would probably crash eventually without additional

Re: reiser4 oops

2006-07-10 Thread Jake Maciejewski
I tried 2.6.17-mm6 (was the latest at the time) and reiser4 still always fails when it runs out of memory. My test has been building a kernel with enough jobs to exhaust memory. Expecting problems, I began by testing reiser4 with debugging enabled. The first time, I got the panic below after

Re: reiser4 oops

2006-07-07 Thread Jake Maciejewski
It doesn't look like this issue has been fixed: http://people.msoe.edu/~maciejej/patches/AMD64_reiser4_debug/20060702/reiser4_kio_http.txt.gz Again fsck showed a clean filesystem. Should I try -mm? This is somewhat difficult to reproduce because the critical factor seems to be using all

Re: reiser4 oops

2006-07-07 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 01:18 -0600, Jake Maciejewski wrote: It doesn't look like this issue has been fixed: http://people.msoe.edu/~maciejej/patches/AMD64_reiser4_debug/20060702/reiser4_kio_http.txt.gz Again fsck showed a clean filesystem. Should I try -mm? Yes, please try to check

Re: Reiser4 cowardly panic 2.6.17-mm5

2006-07-06 Thread Joe Feise
This seems to be fixed with 2.6.17-mm6. -Joe Joe Feise writes: I consistently get cowardly panic errors during bootup with 2.6.17-mm5 (I also had that with -mm3, and had hoped -mm5 would have fixed it.) It corrupts the partition this is happening on (/var) I don't have dmesg or syslog

Re: Reiser4 on top of software raid 0 (dmraid) - another problem

2006-07-05 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 14:56 -0400, Diego Pinheiro wrote: I'm having another problem when running reiser4 on top of software raid 0 (dmraid)... I can work the filesystem fine (mount, copy, create, delete, move, etc...) - even big ammount of data ( 3Gb) as a separate (non / - root

Re: Reiser4 Kernel OOPS on fs/reiser4/plugin/file/file.c:2294 (perhaps the same as the one reported in 2006-07-03 22:24:29?)

2006-07-05 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
that other mail posted on the mailing archives, which I have no idea how to reference it from here... the meta-data of such email is: List: reiserfs Subject:Re: reiser4 oops From: Jake Maciejewski maciejej () msoe ! edu Date: 2006-07-03 22:24:29 Message-ID

Re: reiser4 oops

2006-07-03 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 22:24 -0600, Jake Maciejewski wrote: I'm seeing this on 2.6.16.20 with the -4 patch, amd64 with preempt. The OOM killer was called even though I have 1GB RAM and 4GB swap. My logs are available at:

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