Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Kevin Custer
Your watt meter is lying to you. Your transmitter power is down for some reason Kevin Custer w9mwq wrote: Ok, I know this sounds silly, but my repeater is now hearing better than it transmits. Here's the setup, the the issue. I have a Maggorie (no comments) HiPro transmiitter running

RE: [Repeater-Builder] More power, Scotty!

2005-01-25 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Mathew Quaife wrote: Sounds like a ground issue. Your Astron 35 amp power supply is actually 26 amps normal, 35 amps surge. How much power are you running? Some of the other techs can correct me if I am wrong, but to tie them together you have to use some diodes to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More power, Scotty!

2005-01-25 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:00 PM 1/24/2005 -, you wrote: While building out my repeater empire, I discovered that an Astron RM- 35 does not like providing 30 amps continuous :) So, I thought I would run the latest repeater on a separate power supply. However, the controller, an Arcom RC-210, would not

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I know this sounds silly, but my repeater is now hearing better than it transmits. ... __ If the repeater receive is still fine and the talk out range is

[Repeater-Builder] Pinout needed for the Kenwood PG-4H cable (for RBI-1)

2005-01-25 Thread jumping_jackass
I'm trying to find the pinout for the Kenwood to Doug Hall RBI-1 cable. Kenwood no longer makes these cables. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Short spacing on vhf repeaters.

2005-01-25 Thread Brent
Thank, you all for the the help and support - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Short spacing on vhf repeaters. Brent wrote: Has anybody had to ask

[Repeater-Builder] Need help on wacom cans

2005-01-25 Thread Brent
Need help Id'in the following wacom cans, I can not locate any info on the web pertaining to the following the model WP 447L4/547L2 Thanks Brent -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 ---

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread Mark Boden
When I converted my 224 to VHF amateur band, the element length went from 35 inches (150mhz unit) to 37 inches (144mhz). The spacing on the elements was somewhat limited by the new harness length. Had to work with it a good bit to get somewhat equal spacing on the pole. Had to lengthen

[Repeater-Builder] GE Master II history dates

2005-01-25 Thread Ralph Hogan
Have had some hams in the club asking about the GE Master II equipment I use for all of our repeaters. Can any one answer the question of what year was the Master II introduced and when was it last produced? thanks, Ralph W4XE Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help on wacom cans

2005-01-25 Thread Doug
http://www.seits.org/duplexer/duplexer.htm May be of some assist. 73, Doug On 1/25/05 01:19:03, repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Need help Id'in the following wacom cans, I can not locate any info on the web pertaining to the following the model WP 447L4/547L2 Thanks Brent --

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help on wacom cans

2005-01-25 Thread Doug
447L2 listed here.perhapsthey or WACOM can supply the info you need. Best regards, Doug, GM7SVK http://www.telewave.com/pricelist/Telewave-Wacom-Crossref.txt On 1/25/05 01:19:03, repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Need help Id'in the following wacom cans, I can not locate any info

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pinout needed for the Kenwood PG-4H cable (for RBI-1)

2005-01-25 Thread Richard D. Reese
Doug still has them available http://www.dheco.com Simply tell him how many you want. 73 Richard D. Reese http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:13 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I'm wondering the same thing. A spectrum analyzer would tell you more information. You may be putting out that much power, but on several frequencies. You already stated that the PA can get flakey. I'd look there first. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Kevin is quite correct. Tis the phasing harness construction that determines downtilt of a corporate feed antenna (or physical tilt of the antenna). Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 24,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Pinout needed for the Kenwood PG-4H cable (for RBI-1)

2005-01-25 Thread jumping_jackass
I know but I have all of the parts here ready to solder and the radios are built into such a cool rack mount panel. I really want the cables to be an exact length and dressed so nicely. Besides with the correct pinout I could be done in an hour instead of waiting weeks for the shippment. Jeff

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Pinout needed for the Kenwood PG-4H cable (for RBI-1)

2005-01-25 Thread Ken Arck
At 02:31 AM 1/25/2005 -, you wrote: I know but I have all of the parts here ready to solder and the radios are built into such a cool rack mount panel. I really want the cables to be an exact length and dressed so nicely. Besides with the correct pinout I could be done in an hour instead of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Master II history dates

2005-01-25 Thread Doug Bade
Basing on sales we did in or around the beginning and the end of the productions and digging into the memory banks ... Someone may be able to pinpoint closer butthis should be pretty close... 1971 I believe was the first Mastr II mobile production, State of Ohio took delivery of about

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread Kevin King
There is a model folded dipole I saw for 30 megs that had tunable rods at the top of the loops. It had a set screw an could be field adjusted. But then this is lowband and it was more to save weight and make the antenna tunable across more of the band. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Dave Gingrich
On Jan 24, 2005, at 18:28, w9mwq wrote: Ok, I know this sounds silly, but my repeater is now hearing better than it transmits. Here's the setup, the the issue. I have a Maggorie (no comments) HiPro transmiitter running 2 watts into a Vocom Amp running 160 Watts into the duplexer, 130

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Either your wattmeter is lying, or you have one of two worse problems.. 1) Check your TX with a spectrum analyzer. I'll bet that your on-frequency power is down. A wattmeter reads power on all frequencies - spurs or on frequency. I was bit by that oversight years ago. A 6m 100w TX that used

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:30 PM 1/24/05, Dave Gingrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2005, at 18:28, w9mwq wrote: Ok, I know this sounds silly, but my repeater is now hearing better than it transmits. Here's the setup, the the issue. I have a Maggorie (no comments) HiPro transmiitter running 2 watts

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Master II history dates

2005-01-25 Thread Dave Gingrich
On Jan 24, 2005, at 20:46, Ralph Hogan wrote: Have had some hams in the club asking about the GE Master II equipment I use for all of our repeaters. Can any one answer the question of what year was the Master II introduced and when was it last produced? I have a fairly late model UHF

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More power, Scotty!

2005-01-25 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I've done things like this before. (dual power supplies) As long as I tied the negative leads together I never had a problem. -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:09:02 PM CST From: dekk5fm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

[Repeater-Builder] bracket size

2005-01-25 Thread Jeff Corkren
Hello RB group. I'm mounting a Cellwave PD455-5 Super Stationmaster on a 5 foot face tower at 750 feet. I have a 18 inch, 24 inch and 36 inch standoff to chosefrom. Which one should I use ? Also do I need an upper mast support ? If sowhatis recommended.Thanks ! Jeff Corkren/W5PPB

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Mathew Quaife
Well have to rule out the wattmeter, I have two of them, both gave the same results, one being bird wattmeter and the other being Yaesu YS-500. The antenna has only been in-service since September. If it was the antenna, would it not be noticed on the RX as well, which is not having any

RE: [Repeater-Builder] bracket size

2005-01-25 Thread Mathew Quaife
If the tower will support the 36 use it. Also putting a support at the top keeps the antenna from getting beat up. Mathew From: Jeff Corkren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:48 PM To: Repeater Builder Subject: [Repeater-Builder] bracket size

[Repeater-Builder] Transistor Checking

2005-01-25 Thread w9mwq
Just need a short memory replacement here please. I'm working on an Astron 35 amp power supply, hope to get it going again. I'm checking the transistors in the unit, and not sure if I remember correctly. On my vom, in the diode checking position, I should have a dead short from case to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Transistor Checking

2005-01-25 Thread Q
If you have an old ECG catalog,it has an excellent tutorial on how to test semiconductors. w9mwq wrote: Just need a short memory replacement here please. I'm working on an Astron 35 amp power supply, hope to get it going again. I'm checking the transistors in the unit, and not sure if I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Kevin Custer
Dave Gingrich wrote: Ok, I know this sounds silly, but my repeater is now hearing better than it transmits. I would vote for a failure of the Diamond antenna. I would bet one or more sets of the set screws holding the elements together have come loose. When this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Transistor Checking

2005-01-25 Thread Kevin Custer
w9mwq wrote: Just need a short memory replacement here please. I'm working on an Astron 35 amp power supply, hope to get it going again. I'm checking the transistors in the unit, and not sure if I remember correctly. On my vom, in the diode checking position, I should have a dead short

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You need to check the entire transmitter, not just the exciter. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:17 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Correct. Phelps Dodge did this on their VHF low-band antennas only. I'm not saying that drilling a hole at the ends of the loops and adding a bolt to extend them won't work. I'm saying that actually extending the loop is a better choice form a mechanical standpoint. Chuck WB2EDV -

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Transistor Checking

2005-01-25 Thread Mathew Quaife
Ok, that is what I thought, then I was checking them right. But I let the blue stuff out a bit ago. I have to astron power supplies, one pops the fuse then I turn it on, the turns on, but no voltage out. Took the 723A chip out of the one and put it in the other and blue smoke rolled. Killed a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I would have said bad antenna as well except that it appears to be receiving quite nicely. However, that would be suspect #2 after a dirty transmitter is ruled out. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Dave Gingrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Mathew Quaife
Ok, well if I set me service monitor up on the transmitter, put my selectivity to 20dBm, and the display to 10Db, what should I be looking for on the spectrum analyzer. I'm getting the manual out now to see if it gives instructions on transmitter testing. Mathew -Original Message-

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread russ
True but when you change the harness to get down tilt (PER DB) you also change the spacing. (Also per DB) . It is also just cheaper to buy a new DB-224 for the two meter Ham band. You get a new antenna and it will work for many years. Lord knows they are cheaper then grits. 73 Russ, -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help on wacom cans

2005-01-25 Thread russ
Wacom was 100% bought by TX/RX in NY. They do have most of the info on the older Wacom duplexers. - Original Message - From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help on wacom cans

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help on wacom cans

2005-01-25 Thread CookTowersInc
All true, You can contact TX/RX Phone: 716-549-4700 There address is 8625 Industrial Parkway Angola, NY. 14006 We find that Mary Brown at TX/RX is most helpful to Hams in matters like this. Dean, Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread CookTowersInc
This is also why you get different spacing on the dipoles. It also depends what year in time your harness was made. Over the years they changed coax with new owners (of DB) and that also has a spacing change. Be careful. If you are and do it right you will not have to buy a new DB-224. If

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread rtoplus
Hi all I've followed this thread with great interest seeing that our club just purchased a DB224E to replace an aged stationmaster. Question...We ordered the 138-150 mHz model, Tessco part # 62446. There was nothing in the paperwork referencing element spacing or anything else along those

Re: [Repeater-Builder] bracket size

2005-01-25 Thread CookTowersInc
There are questions that need to be answered! Are you using the tower for a reflector? The rule of thumb is to be at least 1 wave length off the face of the tower at the transmit frequency some times more. We need to know what you want for a pattern? Omni get your DB-455 away from the tower.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread CookTowersInc
Well we all deal with Tessco but when you deal with the large box house you get NO consumer service. And no tech support. Yes you could have ordered your 224 from Tessco tuned for your transmit but you would have had to wait for it. Good luck! Dean, Yahoo! Groups Links To

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread kf4vgx
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Gingrich wrote: Ok, I know this sounds silly, but my repeater is now hearing better than it transmits. I would vote for a failure of the Diamond antenna. I would bet one or more sets of the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Mathew Quaife
Actually, I'm thinking it may have been nothing at all, other than plain old band conditions. Same user went 50 miles from the repeater, and it worked the way it was suppose to. His xmit into the repeater was normal, but his rx of the repeater was back where is was suppose to be. I've done

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Daron J. Wilson
If a 2 meter repeater antenna is broken, it'll affect both receive and transmit, and likely have severe duplex noise which again he doesn't complain about having that either. We tried a TRAM dual band antenna, looks just like the diamond type of setup, on UHF repeater. It worked well,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Mathew Quaife
This very well could have been it as well, never checked the antenna, it had snowed here, yesterday was nearly up to 32 degrees, might have melted some ice off the antenna. Whatever it was, it's back to normal this morning. Mathew -Original Message- From: Daron J. Wilson

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Jim B.
w9mwq wrote: Ok, I know this sounds silly, but my repeater is now hearing better than it transmits. Here's the setup, the the issue. I have a Maggorie (no comments) HiPro transmiitter running 2 watts into a Vocom Amp running 160 Watts into the duplexer, 130 out to the antenna, fed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Dave Gingrich
On Jan 25, 2005, at 9:59, Mathew Quaife wrote: This very well could have been it as well, never checked the antenna, it had snowed here, yesterday was nearly up to 32 degrees, might have melted some ice off the antenna. Whatever it was, it's back to normal this morning. OR...

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread Mathew Quaife
I agree, I took and antenna up and down a temporary tower many of times before placing in on an 85' tower for permanent installation. Helps to have a hazer on a tower to work with. Makes it nice. Mathew -Original Message- From: Chuck Kelsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
The thread concerns taking an out of band antenna down to the ham portion of the band - necessitating a new harness and different spacing. If yours is for the correct range, it's ready to inspect and put up. Never hurts to go over everything before taking it up in the air. Chuck WB2EDV

[Repeater-Builder] IFR 1600S service monitors fs

2005-01-25 Thread johnmichaelwelton
Just want to pass along for those looking for a nice service monitor, TekNet has several IFR 1600S that were just taken out of service from a cellular phone manufacturer. These units do full cross band duplex, spectrum analyzer/tracking generator and built in scope/DMM/SINAD. These

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
First of all, there are other people on this list that are more qualified than I am regarding the use of a spectrum analyzer. That said, you are looking to see only one large spike come up on your frequency when you turn the transmitter on. If you see a whole bunch of spikes (more than one, I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 05:55 AM 1/25/05, you wrote: Hi all I've followed this thread with great interest seeing that our club just purchased a DB224E to replace an aged stationmaster. Question...We ordered the 138-150 mHz model, Tessco part # 62446. Tessco is a out of sight, out of mind organization. They do not

[Repeater-Builder] Re: IFR 1600S service monitors fs

2005-01-25 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, johnmichaelwelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just want to pass along for those looking for a nice service monitor, TekNet has several IFR 1600S ... _ I can recommend them as well. I bought an

[Repeater-Builder] Off Topic: Looking for a job?

2005-01-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
As many of you know, I've been looking for permanent employment for a while (10+ years in computer networks integration / administration / support). I received this in email from a friend and I don't think I'll be applying... The $35 per day per diem raises the salary to over $4300/mo or

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224 Loop Lengths for 145.110 Mhz?

2005-01-25 Thread rtoplus
Thanks all for the infowipes nervous perspiration drops off brow I thought it would be fine, but I wanted to make sure. We will be side mounting the antenna so I will be ordering the DB5001 mounting kit. 73 Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892 Yahoo! Groups Links *

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Master II history dates

2005-01-25 Thread edctexas
I can't comment on when the production of MII stopped but it started in 1969. I think it was the fall. It was along time ago and other than the Micor there don't seem to be any other radios as good. 73 Ed K3SWJ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: