I've been 0.5 Hz off with the encoder & had no problems decoding on Moto
Spirit pagers.
-- Original Message --
Received: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:57:33 AM CST
From: Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two Tone Sequential Paging
At 11/27/2005 08:49, you wrote:
>There is also a new data set from SRTM (the Shuttle Radar Topography
>Mission) where a majority of the earth's surface was measured using
>microwave interferometry. The accuracy isn't necessarily superior to
>existing data (I think 50 feet was the predicted elevat
What does it take to get a GMRS license in the US now?
I did GMRS stuff in the mid 1980s, but have no idea what the current
requirements are today. I have a Explorer post asking me to help.
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I think we've been had. This is obviously a joke isn't it?
73,
Al, K9SI
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:10:07 -
From: "us_communications1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: trying to build my first repeater
the fact that they are mobiles and the design of the power supply
make litt
Hello Ed,
I'm using an external controller.
I think the flat response sounds best. I wired T855 output
PIN 1 (Line I/P1) via the controller to the T856 inputs
Audio1/Audio2 (Pin6/5). If I use the RX's Audio 1/2 outputs
I have a strange, loud noise on the audio.
73
Bernd
--- In Repeater-Builde
Here is a link to a pll (true FM) vhf Mastr II on Ebay. Throw that
old junk away and use one of these and you'll have a great sounding
reliable repeater.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5835754755&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
If you are really into tubes I know a
Hi Larry,
I have both the Red Book and the Yellow Book here in case he
needs either one ... but I most likely have the original manual
on the radios he has too.
Neil
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>
> He will probably need a copy of "The Red Book" or "The Yellow Book" to get
> it goi
I'm in the TAB Books #1212 only ... name and picture.
Neil
nj902 wrote:
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Careful, my picture is in the Ken Sessions Book - Tab Books #1212."
> _
Almost like the Heath-quit W5M audio amplifiers?
Neil
nj902 wrote:
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote: " Ok, I'll bite... what does "TAS" stand for?"
> ___
>
> TAS = the absolute sound [www.theab
Now you know where we are ... where are you?
We meet every Wednesday - late morning at 11:30am ... talk-in is
on 146.70 or 147.36 MHz
Neil
skipp025 wrote:
>
> Invite us up for lunch some time... you
> and any other group member are always welcome
> to join us...
> s.
>
> > Neil McK
...
skipp025 wrote:
>
> > Perhaps I did not make myself clear. The repeater
> > i am building will be nearly hi-fidelity audio and
> > such is why i intend to use tube equipment.
>
> Z.! oop's I fell asleep. A tube
> repeater gear means you're obviously not paying the
> uti
He will probably need a copy of "The Red Book" or "The Yellow Book" to get
it going. People who were into converting old tube-type Motorola gear back
in the 60's - 70's to the ham bands will know what those two books were.
However, the "G" series receiver wasn't a good Repeater receiver even when
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Careful, my picture is in the Ken Sessions Book - Tab Books #1212."
__
I have the original hardcover published by Editors and Engineers Ltd.
I also
Ahhh,yes! Bill,Bob and Lloyd...what a machine!
Coy Hilton wrote:
> If anyone still has a BBL paging terminal manual System III, System
> IV or System VI it should be in the section under the Output Module.
> This module was basically the same in all the units.
>
> 73
> AC0Y
>
> --- In Repeater
re: Tom says thanks (regarding the Hamvention input)
[paste]
Hi Skipp..
Please pass along my thanks for the ideas. Obviously, we
can't implement all of them due to space or other
considerations, but they do give us a basis for gauging
interest.
Thanks again!
Regards,
Tom
[end paste]
Anythin
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
" Ok, I'll bite... what does "TAS" stand for?"
___
TAS = the absolute sound [www.theabsolutesound.com]
A high end audio publication.
Actually - I was just thinking - maybe we
Invite us up for lunch some time... you
and any other group member are always welcome
to join us...
s.
> Neil McKie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> We have one of those in Bend, Oregon each week.
>
> Neil - WA6KLA
>
> skipp025 wrote:
> >
> > Email me direct if you can't find him...
> Perhaps I did not make myself clear. The repeater
> i am building will be nearly hi-fidelity audio and
> such is why i intend to use tube equipment.
Z.! oop's I fell asleep. A tube
repeater gear means you're obviously not paying the
utility bill. An old GE EP-38 has got t
We have one of those in Bend, Oregon each week.
Neil - WA6KLA
skipp025 wrote:
>
> Email me direct if you can't find him...
> I see him each wednesday at the super
> secret electronics geek lunch in
> Sacramento... plus I have his phone
> numbers and an alternate email address.
>
> skipp
Eric -
Thanks for the information.
Paul Yonge
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:56 PM, Eric Lemmon wrote:
> Paul,
>
> The definitions of Line A and Line C are found in Part 2 of the FCC
> Rules:
>
> "Line A. Begins at Aberdeen, Washington running by great circle arc
> to the intersection of
> 48N, 120
...
nj902 wrote:
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "us_communications1"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "...WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS DIRECTION OF HOW OTHERS DID THIS.
> the radios are 30+ years old so i can't believe that i am the
> first to think of using the higer quality tube
Rick & Charlotte -
Thanks for the reference to the map. It looks like Line A goes right
through Syracuse so I now have a choice of six channel pairs instead
of eight channel pairs to use on a GMRS repeater.
Paul Yonge
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Rick & Charlotte wrote:
> http://ftp.fcc.g
Hi Reid,
It's not the same site you're thinking... but I've been
able to make one play from your old repeater site. But
a lot has changed since you were up there.
You needed to get rid of the silly gear and get a
heavy duty Midland Mobile... :-)
cheers,
skipp
ps: Email me direct Reid.
Richard -
Thanks for your prompt response to my query.
Paul Yonge
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:41 PM, Richard wrote:
> http://ftp.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/canline/linea.html
>
> And
>
> http://ftp.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/canline/
>
>
> Richard, N7TGB
>
>
>
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Ok, I'll bite... what does "TAS" stand for?
Richard, N7TGB
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of nj902
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: trying to build my fi
Email me direct if you can't find him...
I see him each wednesday at the super
secret electronics geek lunch in
Sacramento... plus I have his phone
numbers and an alternate email address.
skipp
skipp025 at yahoo.com
> Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> You still on the
The transmitter in its present form - mobile chassis mount ... is
20% duty cycle at best.
us_communications1 wrote:
>
> the fact that they are mobiles and the design of the power supply
> make little difference an any piece of equipment can be
> re-engineered to perform a needed task.
T
Hi
I would like to know how to programme of these radios, can you help me ?
Thanks in advance
David - PU2PJT
GG66TA - SP/BRASIL
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--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "us_communications1"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"...WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS DIRECTION OF HOW OTHERS DID THIS. the
radios are 30+ years old so i can't believe that i am the first to
think of using the higer quality tube equipment. ..."
_
What frequency pair are you planning to put this on?
By the model numbers you gave, I seriously doubt the FCC will
allow those radios on any commercial 2-way radio frequency.
If going into the amateur radio band, you will need to adjust
the transmitter deviation to conform with your
Paul,
The definitions of Line A and Line C are found in Part 2 of the FCC Rules:
"Line A. Begins at Aberdeen, Washington running by great circle arc to the
intersection of
48N, 120W, thence along parallel 48N, to the intersection of 95W, thence by
great circle arc
through the southernmost point
http://ftp.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/canline/canline.html
for a map of the lines
On 27 Nov 2005 at 18:41, Richard wrote:
> http://ftp.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/canline/linea.html
>
> And
>
> http://ftp.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/canline/
>
>
> Richard, N7TGB
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: R
At 02:37 AM 11/28/2005 -, you wrote:
>First, who ever trained you must have been a brother to Maxwell Smart.
>How do you plan to get "the richest/fullest audio" with +/-5KC
>deviation.
<---Not to mention that a proper metaphor would be about the winkest link
in the chain. After all, the ab
http://ftp.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/canline/linea.html
And
http://ftp.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/canline/
Richard, N7TGB
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of cism211
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogrou
First, who ever trained you must have been a brother to Maxwell Smart.
How do you plan to get "the richest/fullest audio" with +/-5KC
deviation. You should spend more time learning about building quality
repeaters and less time in the past.
A well designed class A amplifier will give you quali
At 01:10 AM 11/28/2005 -, you wrote:
>WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS DIRECTION OF HOW OTHERS DID THIS. the radios
>are 30+ years old so i can't believe that i am the first to think of
>using the higer quality tube equipment. this equipment is very
>expensive and i was fortunate to have it donated
the fact that they are mobiles and the design of the power supply
make little difference an any piece of equipment can be re-engineered
to perform a needed task. all that is needed is time and ability.
simultaneous transmit and receive will be addressed by seperate
antennas.
WHAT I AM LOOKING
Perhaps I did not make myself clear. The repeater i am building will
be nearly hi-fidelity audio and such is why i intend to use tube
equipment. i worked in commercial 2 way radio in the 1960's and
worked in broadcasting in the 1970's. tube equipment in highly
reliable if properly maintained, w
The FCC GMRS license application refers to the prohibition of using four GMRS
frequencies
"North of Line A and east of Line C." Can someone help me find out where those
lines are?
Paul Yonge
Syracuse NY
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If anyone still has a BBL paging terminal manual System III, System
IV or System VI it should be in the section under the Output Module.
This module was basically the same in all the units.
73
AC0Y
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Bernie,
>
>
Nate, I did a h 2 h comp with the commercial s/w I
have purchased for well over $10K a few years ago. The
results were far more accurate with RM than the
commercial stuff a few years old, and better yet it
was "FREE" from a fellow ham radio operator.
Hence my original posting regarding the use of
Dave,
You still on the list?
Kevin
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Bernd Maestling wrote:
> Hello,
>
> since my T800 is working now I have a question about the
> "audio-mode" jumpers in the TX-module.
>
> What is the best setup for an HAM-repeater. I tried
> the different modes and I thin I got the best results
> with flat response. Compressor-mode seems to bit
Your training and preference are great for hi-fi audio
equipment, but repeaters are optimized for weak
signals with voice only, and as such, fidelity is not
one of their strong points. 50 - 3500 Hz is about the
limit, and the user radios will make it sound even
worse.
Today's solid-state communica
The capacitors are expensive because they were removed from a Vintage
Fender Guitar Amplifier. People seeking to restore amplifiers of this
vintage will pay big bucks for them.
Last year I sold 2 vintage Fender amplifiers for my brother, a 1962
Vibrolux, and a 1964 Vibroverb like Stevie Ray Va
Well, it is like this ...
us_communications1 wrote:
>
> I attempting to build my first repeater. I have always preferred
> to have the best audio quality for my equipment. My training has
> always told me that tube equipment delivers the richest/fullest
> audio. So I have been rounding up
Good!!
See you when you get here ...
Neil
Ken Arck wrote:
>
> At 03:29 PM 11/27/2005 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > Also, those caps are probably not made anymore ...
> >
> > Since I have some here, would you like to buy them Ken?
>
> <---Heh, I happen to have a few of 'em in the junkb
I attempting to build my first repeater. I have always preferred to
have the best audio quality for my equipment. My training has always
told me that tube equipment delivers the richest/fullest audio. So I
have been rounding up all the tube equipment I can find. The equipment
is all motorola an
I sold a 5 lb spool of "Western Electric" on eBay awhile ago for over 100
dollars, PT Barnum was definitely right.
Joe
Ken Arck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 03:19 PM 11/27/2005 +0100, you wrote:
> >Can someone share why this ítems are so expensive???
>
> <---Because PT Barnum was rig
Juan,
These look to be the OEM caps used in
several models of Fender Music Amps. These are like gold to folks that restore
these amps. Very collectable!!
Wayne
-Original Message-
From:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
At 03:29 PM 11/27/2005 -0800, you wrote:
>
> Also, those caps are probably not made anymore ...
>
> Since I have some here, would you like to buy them Ken?
<---Heh, I happen to have a few of 'em in the junkbox myself. I'll see your
caps and raise you mine
Ken
-
Also, those caps are probably not made anymore ...
Since I have some here, would you like to buy them Ken?
Neil
Ken Arck wrote:
>
> At 03:19 PM 11/27/2005 +0100, you wrote:
> >Can someone share why this ítems are so expensive???
>
> <---Because PT Barnum was right? :-)
>
> Ken
> ---
What?
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Arck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, but curiosity.
At 03:19 PM 11/27/2005 +0100, you wrote:
>Can someone share why this ítems are so expensive???
<---Be
At 03:19 PM 11/27/2005 +0100, you wrote:
>Can someone share why this ítems are so expensive???
<---Because PT Barnum was right? :-)
Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of state-of-the-art repeater con
Can someone share why this ítems are so expensive???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5831794303&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web.
To u
skipp, I could never get my 6M rcvr quiet on the site you refer to,
remember? despite a pass filter ahead of the rcvr, it was no solution
to on-channel grunge, besides a mix from the CHP LB nearby also. Ah well!
W6MTF
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I need some help from someone who has used a Hamtronics REP-200
repeater on 6 meters.
I am trying to get a REP-200 up with a Wacom duplexer built and
tuned for the frequency pair. The Hamtronics was ordered pre-built
and tuned for the oeprating pair.
It has not been used for around 4 years, a
Jeff DePolo WN3A wrote:
[snipped Jeff's long detailed reply...]
Thanks Jeff, that was very informative for someone who's never used the
commercial software.
I still wish someone would do "head to head" comparisons against all the
packages sometime, but I doubt anyone will.
Head to head softwa
Neil,
Maybe, I thought it was on Cedar Hill with the rest of the TV transmitters.
Guess I will have to research that, I am a little closer to that transmitter
than the Cedar Hill sites, hope it does not affect me too much.
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[
The new version does have some nice features, so I keep both around for
now. You should download the new version & try running a comparative set
of plots. Initially they will not agree at all due to the change in the
way "urban" or "city" loss is implemented (simple checkbox in old version,
p
Yeah, when Mobilecomm (now Arch) decomissioned their 30 and 40 MHz paging
systems here on the east coast, lowband Decibel and Celwave pass cavities
were a dime a dozen (or often free). I scooped up as many as I could store,
probably 50 or so. All but a few are in service on 6m repeaters, most of
Before Ebay came on line... people were giving away low
band cavities at the flea markets. I hauled about 8 home
while my friends laughed at the trailer full of large
tubes.
Although they still laugh about it... I have the cavities
in service. Well... maybe they were also laughing at
the T
If you build it... they will come.
S.
> "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am about 45 miles away from a channel 2 high
> powered TV station, should I be worried about
> the repeater I am building?
> Paul
>
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I keep both in stock... email me direct (off
the list for pricing and information). Since
you're reportedly in India it might be practical
to refer you to someone in your area.
cheers,
skipp
www.radiowrench.com
skipp025 at yahoo.com
> "hamradio_india" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
I believe the spec is defined in EIA-374 but I don't have a copy of that
document (EIA/TIA documents aren't distributed freely). Maybe somebody else
has a copy.
--- Jeff
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mai
Hm I'm using the older versionI N T E R E S T I N G.any other comments on the newer versionmaybe we should take this the RadioMobile Group.. Lloyd KD4HTW[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11/27/2005 08:03, you wrote:>I've found that Radio Mobile is very accurate. maybe not 100% but
Bernie,
The information you seek is contained in EIA-374-A, entitled "Land Mobile
Signaling Standard." This document was published in March 1981, but
withdrawn in November 2002. I'll check on its status when I get to work
on Monday.
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
dallasreact112 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does
Pretty loose, I'd say about +- 1% would still work.
Thats about all the tolerance they could get with mass
produced reeds. Even more might work, but they
definately don't have to be dead on.
Joe
--- dallasreact112 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody in group know the frequncy tole
Zetron specs their encoders at +/- 0.1% so a decoder would need to be
wider than that. I'm sure some are more tolerant than others.
Chuck
WB2EDV
dallasreact112 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody in group know the frequncy tolerance of generated audio
> tones used in two tone sequential paging? I
> I keep hearing about this better data from commercial propagation
> software but can't find any reference to it on any of their marketing
> material nor references to how they actually do it -- even
> assuming it's
> proprietary, I don't even see hints about it anywhere.
A lot of the original 3
At 11/27/2005 08:03, you wrote:
>I've found that Radio Mobile is very accurate. maybe not 100% but very,
>very close in my usage. (mobile VHF 50w to repeaters/bases in eastern
>SC) I do model my mobiles with unity gain antennas to give me "cushion"
>with actual usage(gain antennas). Even when
I've found that Radio Mobile is very accurate. maybe not 100% but very, very close in my usage. (mobile VHF 50w to repeaters/bases in eastern SC) I do model my mobiles with unity gain antennas to give me "cushion" with actual usage(gain antennas). Even when modeling line of sight path propagat
I would agree with every word...a bit of time and it does the job well.
Doug
- Original Message -
From: "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?
My persona
I sure wish I could locate cans for that price..
If you hear of any let me know..
mike
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:50 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Rep
Are you referring to KDTN - Denton Texas?
ERP is only 100 kW ... at 412m HAAT
Neil - WA6KLA
Paul Finch wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am about 45 miles away from a channel 2 high powered TV station,
> should I be worried about he repeater I am building?
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Messa
My personal experience with Radio Mobile has been very good. I have done
about 30 different amateur and commercial transmitter/repeater plots
with this free software and it has predicted coverage exceedingly well.
I have taken most of my RM plots and field verified them myself.
The other side o
Hello,
I am about 45 miles away from a channel 2 high powered TV station, should I
be worried about he repeater I am building?
Paul
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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:06 PM
To: Rep
Hussien Reda
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Hello,
since my T800 is working now I have a question about the
"audio-mode" jumpers in the TX-module.
What is the best setup for an HAM-repeater. I tried
the different modes and I thin I got the best results
with flat response. Compressor-mode seems to bit a bit
noisy. Whats about pre-emphaised
Hello ...
Seems the TEK-37 / TEK37A is the adapter only. Manual number
68-81121A01
As I remember - one version fits the portable test set ... has a
tiny slide switch (or two?) on it
The other fits the TEK-5 Metering panel and has no switches on it.
I believe I have the rest
Hi,
Does anybody in group know the frequncy tolerance of generated audio
tones used in two tone sequential paging? I know one can get away with
+/- 1hz on PL encoding and it will generally still work.
73
Bernie Parker
K5BP
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