RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto GM300's Used With External Controller - Blank Frequency Entry

2007-03-21 Thread n3cdy
type the word blank in the freq window The radios were most likely programmed in the repeater mode of rss not radio mode. This is a normal thing to occur This is not even required unless you need to make absolutely sure that a receive radio never transmits ( ie into a preamp or multicoupler for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto GM300's Used With External Controller - Blank Frequency Entry

2007-03-21 Thread Bob M.
Just type BLANK and a bunch of spaces to fill the field up. I know you can do this to the TX freq if you want a receive-only channel, but I'm not sure you can do it to the RX freq and still have a TX freq entered. Try it and see. The MaxTrac RSS requires an RX freq but the TX freq can be blank.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto GM300's Used With External Controller - Blank Frequency Entry

2007-03-21 Thread skipp025
Well... Tried all that and the software wouldn't allow the blank entry. Per one of the other reply posts I only tried programming through the radio direct... not through the repeater software. Other than talking to the rick... what does the repeater software give or get for me? Here's a

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controller

2007-03-21 Thread Sam
Do you have to use an external controller when putting 2 radios together for a repeater? I just want a simple RX TX and have the TX radio PG with a 2min TOT. There are some cables on the internet that claim all you have to do is plug and play (MOTO Radiuu 16 pin). Do they really work? Sam

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VXR 7000 for sale

2007-03-21 Thread cruising7388
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controller

2007-03-21 Thread Nate Duehr
On 3/20/07, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have to use an external controller when putting 2 radios together for a repeater? I just want a simple RX TX and have the TX radio PG with a 2min TOT. There are some cables on the internet that claim all you have to do is plug and play (MOTO

[Repeater-Builder] Trielectric Amp

2007-03-21 Thread D Chubski
Please anyone have any information on a Trielectric VHF Amp Model A-2080 HBR ? Thanks Dave - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto GM300's Used With External Controller - Blank Frequency Entry

2007-03-21 Thread Charles Schmell
Skipp - Make sure you know any custom programmng of the radio in question (i.e. the 16 pin connector), then switch back and forth between repeater and radio modes in the RSS. After you get back to the repeater mode, only 1 option will be available for the TX and 1 for the Receiver. At least

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controller Recommendations

2007-03-21 Thread no6b
At 3/19/2007 18:52, you wrote: Question for the gurus: I am tuning up and donating an E.F. Johnson CR1100 repeater to the local Ham Club. They have asked me to install a talking, chirping, beeping type repeater controller (which they have offered to buy). I work with basic repeater, one each

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 conversion

2007-03-21 Thread James H Vernetti
Has anyone tried to do a 220 mhz conversion on the Mitrek?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controller Recommendations

2007-03-21 Thread Nate Duehr
On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. It has to talk, beep and chirp. Just about every controller beeps. By chirp do you mean fancy sound effects? Some of the cheaper controllers only have simple beeps won't chirp. Hahaha... I love the way you put that Bob. It won't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: anyone a member of the MSF5000 group?

2007-03-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 01:54 PM 3/20/2007, you wrote: Didn't know there is or was a MSF group. Could someone give me some info --There's one on Yahoogroups (well actually 2 but one only has 5 members so what's the point?) I took delivery of a MSF5000 a couple of days ago and there is a bit of a learning curve

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 conversion

2007-03-21 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
If your really meant what you asked, conversion to subaudiable frequencies, 220 milliHertz, the conversion would be very difficult. If you really meant 220 MHz, the conversion should be very similar to any other radio. Basically you have to convert the front end by reresonating the coils at

[Repeater-Builder] Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread ldgelectronics
Hi all, We've added a preamp to our local repeater and found that it had too much gain. It started picking up lots of garbage. Reducing the gain by about 6db seems to put it in a good operating place. We also found that by putting the 6db attenuator on the input of the preamp (right after

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread ldgelectronics
Steve, It's on 2M, single Station Master antenna with about 400 feet of 7/8 feedline. The duplexer is a BP/BR followed by a band pass can, then the pre, then the radio side. All cables are RG-400. The radio is GE Exec II. The sensitivity without the pre is about 0.35 uV. The noise floor is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto GM300's Used With External Controller - Blank Frequency Entry

2007-03-21 Thread Milt
Skipp, IIRC the GM300 will not allow a blank RX only a blank TX. Usual way to fix the issue you described is just what you did, different freq and a wierd PL or DPL, also set the RX to LOCAL. The RICK was a general do-it-all-for -you controller and can be set up as Uni-directional or

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread ldgelectronics
Ken, thanks for the input. So if I were to adjust the band pass can to have 3 db loss (it's at 0.5 db right now) and steeper skirts, it would raise the noise figure about 2.5 db as well. That seemed like a good trick at first, but still raises the noise figure. Obviously lower noise figure

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:31 PM 3/21/2007, you wrote: Ken, thanks for the input. So if I were to adjust the band pass can to have 3 db loss (it's at 0.5 db right now) and steeper skirts, it would raise the noise figure about 2.5 db as well. Yup. *Any* loss, be it in the duplexer, feedline to the antenna, etc.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
Sounds like a nice setup Dwayne. I would make sure the duplexer is tuned properly, maybe run an isolated TEE test just to be sure everything is OK. Next I would rotate the coupling loops to increase insertion loss and make the skirts steeper. What Wacom taught me to do was to take a cavity,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
I did mean coupling loops on the single band pass cavity and not the duplexer. SB On 3/21/07, Steve Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a nice setup Dwayne. I would make sure the duplexer is tuned properly, maybe run an isolated TEE test just to be sure everything is OK. N

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ldgelectronics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We've added a preamp to our local repeater and found that it had too much gain. It started picking up lots of garbage. Elaborate on the term garbage. Intermod? Users from distant repeaters? If

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 conversion

2007-03-21 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 04:19 PM 03/21/07, you wrote: Has anyone tried to do a 220 mhz conversion on the Mitrek? I've been thinking about it for a while... There are two approaches - take a UHF radio and put a modified high band front end in, and bypass a doubler, or take a high band radio and move it up. The mods

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread ldgelectronics
Darn, I meant to put that in before. I have severaldifferent units. I'd like to use an ARR with 15 db gain (1 db NF), but we also have a couple of older Lunar with about 15 db gain and some stock GE units with about 10 db. The Angle is on the list to try. One of the systems we just took out

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:21 PM 3/21/2007, you wrote: Darn, I meant to put that in before. I have severaldifferent units. I'd like to use an ARR with 15 db gain (1 db NF), but we also have a couple of older Lunar with about 15 db gain and some stock GE units with about 10 db. The Angle is on the list to try. --I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread ldgelectronics
Steve, That's good info on tuning the BP can. I will put that info in the file. I'm pretty sure the duplexer is tuned properly. The four can BP/BR is a Sinclair 202. It's got right at 1.5 db loss on each side with about 83 db of rejection on each. There area also two Sinclair BP/BR cans. One

[Repeater-Builder] Comtegra DTMF

2007-03-21 Thread Com/Rad Inc
21 Mar 2007 We have a Comtegra remote application and desire to add DTMF decode. This is a software download of some type. Need to avoid adding an aftermarket decoder if possible Ed Folta Com/Rad Inc.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread ldgelectronics
The garbage was pops, static, crackling on weak user signals. There was also some intermod that would drop the receiver on all but the strongest users. The distant users were able to go farther, but the garbage noise made it more difficult to actually use. Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG Elaborate on

[Repeater-Builder] LMR feedline revisited and revised!

2007-03-21 Thread Jay Urish
Did anybody see the ad for the 'new' LMR series feedline in this months league journal?(QST) They are going to an aluminum braid instead of the tinned copper. Its supposed to make it lighter and cheaper. Any opinions on whether this will make it more suitable for duplex work? -- Jay Urish

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread Gary Schafer
Hook your signal generator up to your system at the antenna port and measure receiver sensitivity with and without the preamp. Then with the preamp in circuit start adding attenuation between the preamp and the receiver. When you just start to loose sensitivity stop adding attenuation. That should

RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR feedline revisited and revised!

2007-03-21 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jay, You are referring to the blurb on the lower right corner of page 69 of the April, 2007, issue of QST. The notion of a lite version of any coaxial cable raises a red flag in my mind. Emotions aside, my take is that it will be LESS suitable for duplex work, and will enjoy the same low esteem

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Preamp and attenuator

2007-03-21 Thread skipp025
We've added a preamp to our local repeater and found that it had too much gain. It started picking up lots of garbage. I would ask if there is such a thing as too much gain but there can be. Normally I would would not expect gain to be a problem in a well designed - constructed system.

[Repeater-Builder] Register now for 2007 IRLP/VoIP conference

2007-03-21 Thread Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.
The date for the 2007 VoIP Conference is Friday April 13 - Sunday April 15, 2007 just before the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) conference, also in Las Vegas. The conference highlights IRLP but all VoIP systems owners and users are invited to present papers, or just attend.