RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Recommendations?

2009-07-17 Thread Barry
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Recommendations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Cort Buffington > > wrote: > >> > >> Tony, > >> >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Recommendations?

2009-07-17 Thread Cort Buffington
You nailed it! The dipoles are more versatile, easier to move, easier to store, and take lightning better when they're on top. At least that's my experience, I'm sure we all have differing experiences. On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 PM, crackedofn0de wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Recommendations?

2009-07-17 Thread crackedofn0de
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Cort Buffington wrote: > > Tony, > > Obviously this is an area where many of us have very strong opinions. > I tried very hard to love fiberglass radomed colinears. I tried very > hard, but came back to the exposed dipole as the antenna of choice > every ti

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna

2008-10-03 Thread Randy
--- I probably should have done a Google Search. My first choice was to search for the manufactor of the antenna first. Radio Frequency Systems. . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ed Yoho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Randy wrote: > > --- One person says one thing...Like I've said before; I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna

2008-10-03 Thread Ed Yoho
Randy wrote: > --- One person says one thing...Like I've said before; I know nothing > about Motorola products... If you know nothing about it, you might want to at least do a simple Google search for: super stationmaster 220-3an If you did, you would see $1046.00 is the correct list price for

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna

2008-10-03 Thread Randy
--- One person says one thing...Like I've said before; I know nothing about Motorola products... . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > $3,000 new? Tessco list price is $1,046.00 > > Joe > > Randy wrote: > > I have a Repeater antenna. Radio Frequency Systems,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-27 Thread skipp025
> Chuck > WB2EDV > > > > - Original Message - > From: Keith, KB7M > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice > > > The area served by man

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-26 Thread Chuck Kelsey
About 275 - 280 feet. Chuck - Original Message - From: "Laryn Lohman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:39 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice > Chuck, how far vertically above the portables would that 420-style

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-26 Thread Laryn Lohman
Chuck, how far vertically above the portables would that 420-style antenna have been, considering the hills in the area, etc. Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We had a DB-420 style antenna (actually it was made by Signals, but it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-26 Thread Chuck Kelsey
7 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice The area served by many of our radio sites (we are in Central Utah), sit at approximately a 12 degree downtilt from the sites. Most of these sites are at 3000-4000' AGL. In some cases, we have opted for lower gain

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-26 Thread skipp025
Simple... The largest Decibel, Sinclair, Telewave or similar folded dipole style antenna you can manage to put in the air. Antennas are probably the only part of the "free lunch rule"... when applied to radio system coverage. There are two types... the standard folded dipole "Dec

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-26 Thread Keith, KB7M
The area served by many of our radio sites (we are in Central Utah), sit at approximately a 12 degree downtilt from the sites. Most of these sites are at 3000-4000' AGL. In some cases, we have opted for lower gain antennas to cover close in areas better. We designate repeaters as local or wide a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-26 Thread Laryn Lohman
I've not seen "overshoot" from relatively low AGL sites either. Maybe someone could bring up some examples of this happening, with details? Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed. I think what I was trying to say was there were

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-25 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 25, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Laryn Lohman wrote: Hi Larry, yeah... reading back through it I transposed 408 and 420. > Nate, perhaps you could clarify that paragraph... > > Anyway, I was just comparing published vertical beamwidth numbers for > various bands/manufacturers/gains. Within a degree

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-25 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think the comments about where you want to put your signal > apply as much as some folks would have you believe. Even though the > 408 pushes more gain to the horizon, it still is rated for something

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-25 Thread Ron Wright
9ee/r >From: gervais fillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/24 Sat AM 08:06:27 CST >To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice > >Hi all >we have been using here >Sinclair SRL-210 a4 for many y

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-24 Thread gervais fillion
Hi all we have been using here Sinclair SRL-210 a4 for many years ,they are well built,4 dipoles . they have been cloned by many telecom compagny as Comprod too we have tested Fiberglass antenna,after a time the coating of the fibreglass dissapear and the fiber of the fiberglass broke due to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Choice

2007-11-24 Thread Paul R. Dumdie Jr
Derek, Going to the higher gain antenna may cause shadowing in some areas close in to the repeater site if its up real high. I also like the DB-408 antennas and am using them on my systems. The fiberglass antennas are OK also, But if they take a lightning hit they are gone. I had an ASP copy of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-28 Thread Steve Allred
The Telewave unit is a tuned circut type too (low pass VHF / high pass UHF), just much more robust. They are capable of running at a much higher power level than the Amateur type. They are also weather proof (with proper connector sealing) if you want to "break out" your feedline at the top of t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-27 Thread w5zit
meter input. 73 - Jim W5ZIT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 8:58 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question I don't think any of them have cavities in them. I would suspect that the telewa

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-27 Thread va7rs
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > At 4/27/2007 06:34, you wrote: > >> How about a diplexer from Comet or Diamond? I looked into this > > They work fine provided you use the model WITHOUT the pigtail leads, IOW > all connectors must be directly on the diplexer. Use only coax with > silver-plated braid

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-27 Thread Gary Schafer
peater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of crackedofn0de > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:34 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:34 AM 4/27/2007, you wrote: >I was thinking about going with a Diamond product (they at least have >a metal housing) and swapping out any UHF connectors for N types.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:34 AM 4/27/2007, you wrote: >How about a diplexer from Comet or Diamond? I looked into this >recently for a similar application and couldn't tell the difference >between the expensive Telewave crossband couplers and the dime-a-dozen >amateur diplexers. <---I'm using a Diamond one on one of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-27 Thread no6b
At 4/27/2007 06:34, you wrote: >How about a diplexer from Comet or Diamond? I looked into this They work fine provided you use the model WITHOUT the pigtail leads, IOW all connectors must be directly on the diplexer. Use only coax with silver-plated braid (RG-214, 223, 142 or 400) or hardline

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-27 Thread crackedofn0de
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/26/2007 4:39:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > cross band coupler > > > Thanks that sounds like the ticket. Seems like the way to go > > > JA How about a dip

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-26 Thread JHCCRadio
In a message dated 4/26/2007 4:39:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cross band coupler Thanks that sounds like the ticket. Seems like the way to go JA ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Antenna Question

2007-04-26 Thread Steve
JA, Since you have good quality duplexers already, i would go with the "cross band coupler" that Telewave makes. This is a very good commercial grade product, reasonably priced and is designed for repeater applications. I am using similar duplexers, a cross band coupler and a Diamond X- 500HNA

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-06 Thread VE3ID
alf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:N8BQN%40sbcglobal.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:06 AM > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggesti

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-06 Thread Tony King - W4ZT
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:06 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions > > > > OK .. how many of you were immediately thinking of the &q

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-06 Thread Mike Perryman
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions OK .. how many of you were immediately thinking of the "barrel of tools up the tower" story? (raises hand) Nate Duehr wrote: Clip the pulley to something sturdy up-top, and have your buddy who thought he was getting out of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-06 Thread N8BQN
OK .. how many of you were immediately thinking of the "barrel of tools up the tower" story? (raises hand) Nate Duehr wrote: Clip the pulley to something sturdy up-top, and have your buddy who thought he was getting out of doing the hard part down at the truck -- pull the heavy stuff up to you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-05 Thread Mike Reed
- Original Message - From: "Nate Duehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions Steve Hutzley wrote: > I inherited this repeater system. And I'm still learning as I go.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-05 Thread Nate Duehr
Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote: > The only problem we have here in Florida is with the salt air. When > close to the Gulf the salt has eaten the exposed elements after > about 8 years, but most do not have a problem. We often coat the > joints for added protection. Ice can be a problem

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-05 Thread Nate Duehr
Steve Hutzley wrote: > I inherited this repeater system. And I'm still learning as I go. There > is alot of work to do both inside and outside of the shack. The shack > and 160' tower is located on private property owned by a ham, so access > and tower work is not an issue. > The tower came of

[Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-05 Thread Steve Hutzley
I appriciate everyones suggestions of either a station master or a DB-*** antenna. I inherited this repeater system. And I'm still learning as I go. There is alot of work to do both inside and outside of the shack. The shack and 160' tower is located on private property owned by a ham, so acc

[Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-04 Thread Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator
Steve, One other comment about the DB224 folded dipoles. One can arrange the 4 dipoles to squeue the pattern. My repeater is on the Gulf of Mexico and don't need to much west coverage. It can also help distortion of the pattern from side mounting. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@

[Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-12-04 Thread Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator
Steve, I agree with most of the replies. One can tell a serious repeater builder by he/she not taking the typical Ham route and look for rugged antennas and feedline. I have a DB224 folded dipole here at 1175 ft above ground for about 10 years. Local club just replaced one over 25 years old.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Tony L.
Our club's 1151-2 Station Master was installed professionally in 1990 and is still going strong. No SWR problems at all and excellent wind rating. I'd highly recommend you spend the extra $150 for a top notch antenna. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Sean Fitzharris" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater antenna??

2005-06-21 Thread Bob Dengler
At 6/17/2005 04:57 AM, you wrote: >The GAMMA MATCH is somewhat narrow banded and if there is any weather >conditions involved such as ICE, the antenna will detune quite >quickly >thus rendering the antenna to be useless till the ice thaws from the >matching device. >I would look at something else!!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater antenna??

2005-06-17 Thread steve
D]> To: Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater antenna?? > The GAMMA MATCH is somewhat narrow banded and if there is any weather > conditions involved such as ICE, the antenna will detune quite > quickly > thus rendering the antenna to be useless

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater antenna??

2005-06-17 Thread Gary
The GAMMA MATCH is somewhat narrow banded and if there is any weather conditions involved such as ICE, the antenna will detune quite quickly thus rendering the antenna to be useless till the ice thaws from the matching device. I would look at something else!! 73's Gary - W5GNB --- In Repeater