Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-23 Thread Robert Jeffares
there are two solutions 1 make sure you overschedule that last hour clock. 2 figure out how an event at the end of the log [chainto] is being called at midnight. Have you got a time sync just before it? Put the time sync at 11:55 then schedule close to 5 minutes and let the chainto event happen

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-22 Thread Jorge Soto
, October 21, 2011 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes Rob, the issue is that when you select the checkbox to add the Chain-To event at the end of your logs, it creates the Chain-To as a Timed Event.  So if it fires before midnight, then the next day's log loads (which also has a Timed Eve

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-21 Thread Benjamin D. Fillmore
Rob, the issue is that when you select the checkbox to add the Chain-To event at the end of your logs, it creates the Chain-To as a Timed Event. So if it fires before midnight, then the next day's log loads (which also has a Timed Event at midnight to load the NEXT day's log) and it gets trigg

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Fred Gleason
On Oct 19, 2011, at 12:55 38, Reid Fletcher wrote: > I can't try it right now, but isn't it possible to specify the log date > in a CHAIN command by using metacharacters instead of a hard > coded date? No, not right now. Cheers! |---

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Rob Landry
001...@interpring.com> To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes It occurs to me that it would be nice if tomorrow's log were loaded by appending it to today's while today's is still

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Jorge Soto
10:37 AM Subject: Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes It occurs to me that it would be nice if tomorrow's log were loaded by appending it to today's while today's is still running, the time of each event being adjusted by adding to it the projected end time of today's log. Midnight woul

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Rob Landry
It occurs to me that it would be nice if tomorrow's log were loaded by appending it to today's while today's is still running, the time of each event being adjusted by adding to it the projected end time of today's log. Midnight would become just another time, and not a seam separating "today"

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Tim Camp
Greetings, This really sounds like you are trying to re-invent the wheel here. I have six stations chaining everyday some hitting a top of the hour network news and never one problem. You either put in plenlty of extra songs and use a timed event or time out your programing as best you can and p

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Reid Fletcher
I can't try it right now, but isn't it possible to specify the log date in a CHAIN command by using metacharacters instead of a hard coded date? I'm proposing that one codes a timed CHAIN set to trigger at, oh say, 1 minute into the new day. It would be in every log. At 1 minute into the new da

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Jorge Soto
__ From: Benjamin D. Fillmore To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes The music IS overscheduled, but the import dumps everything that it decides won't fit in the clock -- which eliminates the overschedule

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Rob Landry
I wonder what you're doing that I'm doing differently. Do you have any timed events in the last hour of the day (i.e. after 11 P.M.)? I have none. Some of my stations have timed events at 10:56 P.M. and 12:56 A.M., but none have any timed events after 11 P.M. Rob On Wed, 19 Oct 2011, James

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Tim Camp
It may put your time off a little if you are running early but just chain the next day at the end of your log. No timed event. On Oct 19, 2011 7:01 AM, "James Gamblin" wrote: > Hey Rob, > > Ours did it last night. We usually add a few songs at the end of the day, > for > insurance. The fellow t

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread James Gamblin
Hey Rob, Ours did it last night. We usually add a few songs at the end of the day, for insurance. The fellow that usually takes care of that had a couple of days off. Most were fine, but we got bit last night. Woke up @ 4 am to a silent station. Sure wish the next day would just load. James

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Rob Landry
I've never seen this happen. My clients' stations often run out of log before midnight; the next day's log loads a bit early but plays just fine. I usually have a long filler scheduled just before 3 AM with a station ID after it that is set to start at 3AM, so a couple minutes of the filler ma

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Stan Fotinos
No, just set up extra events using RDlogmanager music scheduler On 19/10/11 4:36 PM, Benjamin D. Fillmore wrote: > So it's still coming back to manually inserting music after the merge > process dumps the music we already overscheduled. > > Okay. > > On 10/19/2011 3:17 AM, Stan Fotinos wrote: >> T

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Benjamin D. Fillmore
So it's still coming back to manually inserting music after the merge process dumps the music we already overscheduled. Okay. On 10/19/2011 3:17 AM, Stan Fotinos wrote: > Then I would add events into RDlogmanager to prevent that. > > On 19/10/11 4:13 PM, Benjamin D. Fillmore wrote: >> Then it wo

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Stan Fotinos
Then I would add events into RDlogmanager to prevent that. On 19/10/11 4:13 PM, Benjamin D. Fillmore wrote: > Then it would leave the same situation. If there's not an overfill in > that hour, then the automation ends. > > The music IS overscheduled, but the import dumps everything that it > deci

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Benjamin D. Fillmore
Then it would leave the same situation. If there's not an overfill in that hour, then the automation ends. The music IS overscheduled, but the import dumps everything that it decides won't fit in the clock -- which eliminates the overscheduled music. Leaving us back with a log that may or may

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Stan Fotinos
Yes it will, but it's there as a precaution. As log as you have enough events/music before hand then that timed event (can be a music track) will start say at 11:59 even though you have enough music to take you up to say 00:10 the next day. On 19/10/11 4:04 PM, Benjamin D. Fillmore wrote: > I'm

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Benjamin D. Fillmore
I'm not sure if I followed that, but I'll take a look tomorrow, when the internet is back up (I can't reach the machine right now). Won't STOP actually stop the automation, preventing the chain event from ever firing, without user intervention? On 10/19/2011 2:56 AM, Stan Fotinos wrote: > Whe

Re: [RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Stan Fotinos
When have a timed event always at the end of the log to make sure that that does not occur. So make sure the log is full or over and the last event is a timed event and has a Stop transition to it (before the chain) and only start when you want it to change over. Hope this helps Stan On 19/

[RDD] Chain To Woes

2011-10-19 Thread Benjamin D. Fillmore
We are experiencing a random but recurring problem. Sometimes the chain-to event will happen slightly before midnight. The problem is that when this happens, the next log loads, and then at midnight, the log forces the NEXT chain-to event to trigger which either puts us on the wrong day's log