[sage-devel] Re: Directions for idioms of free objects and free abelian groups

2014-04-21 Thread Simon King
Hi Travis, On 2014-04-20, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > Hey Simon, >I believe John was referring to the catalog of groups (which I forgot > about, thanks!) and proposing a similar catalog for algebras (which I > support). Exactly. And I was proposing to move these catalogs where they belong to

[sage-devel] Re: Directions for idioms of free objects and free abelian groups

2014-04-21 Thread Simon King
Hi John, On 2014-04-20, John H Palmieri wrote: > If I type "Groups().", nothing helpful is returned, Of course not. But if you type "Groups.", then something helpful is returned, and if you do "C = Groups()" and later "C." then it is, too. And if one turns "bla()" and other stuff into static met

Re: [sage-notebook] Re: [sage-devel] sagenb.org

2014-04-21 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:30 PM, kcrisman wrote: >> >> >> >> Who takes care of sagenb.org nowadays? >> >> e.g. maintenance and security? >> > >> > Jason Grout took care of it for the last few years. He posted that he >> > will not be able to take care of it (and also >> > http://sagecell.sagemath

Re: [sage-devel] sagenb.org

2014-04-21 Thread kcrisman
> > >> > >> Who takes care of sagenb.org nowadays? > >> e.g. maintenance and security? > > > > Jason Grout took care of it for the last few years. He posted that he > > will not be able to take care of it (and also > > http://sagecell.sagemath.org/) recently, and asked for volunteers. > >

Re: [sage-devel] sagenb.org

2014-04-21 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:48 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: >> Hi >> >> Who takes care of sagenb.org nowadays? >> e.g. maintenance and security? > > Jason Grout took care of it for the last few years. He posted that he > will not be able to take

Re: [sage-devel] sagenb.org

2014-04-21 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > Who takes care of sagenb.org nowadays? > e.g. maintenance and security? Jason Grout took care of it for the last few years. He posted that he will not be able to take care of it (and also http://sagecell.sagemath.org/) recently, and

[sage-devel] sagenb.org

2014-04-21 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Who takes care of sagenb.org nowadays? e.g. maintenance and security? Regards, Jan -- .~. /V\ Jan Groenewald /( )\www.aims.ac.za ^^-^^ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop re

[sage-devel] Re: dot2tex

2014-04-21 Thread Volker Braun
We do carry the patch for the issue with scientific notation in Sage. There seems to be no ticket or corresponding commit on the new repo, but the old issue tracker says "transferred": https://code.google.com/p/dot2tex/issues/detail?id=29 -- You received this message because you are subscribe

[sage-devel] dot2tex

2014-04-21 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear dot2tex fans, Kjell, the developer of dot2tex just got in touch with me. I haven't been following seriously the work on the integration of dot2tex in Sage lately, so please answer! - Forwarded message from Kjell Magne Fauske - Dear Nicolas, dot2tex is back from the dea

[sage-devel] Ticket #10963: axioms and more functorial constructions

2014-04-21 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Sage developers, Here is an update on the progress on #10963. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 09:56:51PM -0700, Nils Bruin wrote: >On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:38:35 PM UTC-7, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > This isn't about > correctness or performance or sufficient testing, it's a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: bug with FinitelyGeneratedMatrixGroup (worked with previous version)

2014-04-21 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
> Volker wrote: > But having an iterator would be nice even for infinite > finitely-generated groups. +1 On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:10:13PM +, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > it does not look obvious how you can ensure that the stream will not > have repeated elements (without keeping the previous s

[sage-devel] Re: Building Sage with GCC 4.9

2014-04-21 Thread leif
leif wrote: Is there already a ticket for issues with GCC 4.9? I think I'll open a (small) metaticket soon. (Release of 4.9.0 is scheduled for Tuesday, so we'll presumably face it soon in some distros.) Depending on when Sage 6.2 gets released, we may also release some 6.1.2 with only fixe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-21 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi It seems everything is sagemath or libc6, except: (sage-sh) root@kontiki:exec$ pwd /usr/lib/sagemath/local/lib/R/bin/exec (sage-sh) root@kontiki:exec$ for i in `ldd R|egrep ' /lib| /usr/lib'|awk '{print $3}'`; do dpkg -S $i; done|awk -F: '{print $1}'|sort -u libc6 libgcc1 *libgfortran3libgo

[sage-devel] Re: bug with FinitelyGeneratedMatrixGroup (worked with previous version)

2014-04-21 Thread Volker Braun
I don't think you can do that in general, this sounds like it would be awfully close to deciding whether a fp group is finite or not. So if the group is really infinite then iterating all the way needs infinite memory in addition to infinite time. I'm fine with that. Sometimes you just need a c

[sage-devel] Re: bug with FinitelyGeneratedMatrixGroup (worked with previous version)

2014-04-21 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-04-21, Volker Braun wrote: > On Monday, April 21, 2014 10:37:11 AM UTC+1, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: >> >> We should probably add a "category" optional argument to MatrixGroup, >> so that we can specify this when we build the group. > > > But having an iterator would be nice even for infin

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-21 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: Yes, in a sage subshell, those all point to /usr/lib/sagemath/... Note that there are also executables deeper in the Sage tree (but hopefully /most/ in subfolders named 'bin'), e.g. and notably $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/R/bin/exec/R. $ find . -name bin ./local/gap/gap-4.7.4

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-21 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi And the dependencies reduce to: libc6 libexpat1 libfontconfig1 libgcc1 libssl1.0.0 libstdc++6 Regards, Jan On 20 April 2014 15:29, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > > On 20 April 2014 14:50, leif wrote: > >> Jan Groenewald wrote: >> >>> On 19 April 2014 17:15, leif >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-21 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Yes, in a sage subshell, those all point to /usr/lib/sagemath/... Regards, Jan On 21 April 2014 11:28, leif wrote: > Jan Groenewald wrote: > >> I am suprised at these not being contained in sage: >> > > Ahem, run that from within a Sage subshell? > > (We don't set DT_RUNPATH, but currently

Re: [sage-devel] Re: bug with FinitelyGeneratedMatrixGroup (worked with previous version)

2014-04-21 Thread Volker Braun
On Monday, April 21, 2014 10:37:11 AM UTC+1, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: > > We should probably add a "category" optional argument to MatrixGroup, > so that we can specify this when we build the group. But having an iterator would be nice even for infinite finitely-generated groups. -- You rec

Re: [sage-devel] Re: bug with FinitelyGeneratedMatrixGroup (worked with previous version)

2014-04-21 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 09:17:16AM -0700, Volker Braun wrote: >The problem is that we don't have an algorithm to find out that the group >is finite (short of generating all elements). So it is placed in the >"Groups" category instead of "FiniteGroups", and that doesn't have an >iter

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-21 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: I am suprised at these not being contained in sage: Ahem, run that from within a Sage subshell? (We don't set DT_RUNPATH, but currently rely on sage-env setting up LD_LIBRARY_PATH appropriately.) 0 root@kontiki:/usr/lib/sagemath/local/bin#for i in *; do ldd $i | egrep

[sage-devel] Re: Difficulty with Galois group

2014-04-21 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-04-19, Kannappan Sampath wrote: > Hello sage-devel: > > I am trying to prepare a notebook for a SAGE demo at my institute. In rying > to compute the Galois group, I am stuck here. SAGE complains that I have to > install KASH while I already have KASH installed. > > > sage: K. = NumberField