[sage-devel] Re: reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-28 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 2014-08-28, P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com wrote: Never used slrn, so I am just guessing that your terminal might be lacking in some aspect. Did you try urxvt? Never heard of it before. A duckduckgo search tells that it is a terminal emulator. What can it do what konsole (that's what

[sage-devel] Re: reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-28 Thread Simon King
PS: On 2014-08-28, P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com wrote: --=_Part_2178_941130182.1409191972645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Never used slrn, so I am just guessing that your terminal might be lacking in some aspect. Did you try urxvt? I just installed urxvt, and use it right

Re: [sage-devel] reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-28 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Well, I think you didn't understand me or I don't understand you. There is already numpy, scipy and matplotlib in Sage and there is no obstruction whatsoever to use it. One has to turn off the preparser, otherwise you might see really odd errors. I agree (probably needs better

Re: [sage-devel] PyCon talk proposal

2014-08-28 Thread Daniel Krenn
Am 2014-08-26 um 11:58 schrieb Viviane Pons: a reminder that you still have until 15th of September to submit a talk for PyCon 2015 in Montreal. I read some of you are attending SciPyEurope or EuroPython and that's great! [...] - have you developed or are you using some framework or something

Re: [sage-devel] reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-28 Thread William A Stein
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Travis Scrimshaw tsc...@ucdavis.edu wrote: Well, I think you didn't understand me or I don't understand you. There is already numpy, scipy and matplotlib in Sage and there is no obstruction whatsoever to use it. One has to turn off the preparser, otherwise you

Re: [sage-devel] taskforce: documentation

2014-08-28 Thread William A Stein
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: I've read most of the comments which did roll in in the last few days. One repeated topic was about the documentation. I'm curious if there is currently anyone working on improving it? I think the reference

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Function for subposet search

2014-08-28 Thread Nathann Cohen
(At the super market) Doesn't it work better if you also do induced=true for the transitive closure thing too ? Nathann On Wednesday, August 27, 2014, Jori Mantysalo jori.mantys...@uta.fi wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2014, Nathann Cohen wrote: Does Sage has a function to check if poset A contains

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Function for subposet search

2014-08-28 Thread Nathann Cohen
(sitting in the living room) Yes, you do need this induced=True otherwise the chain contains all other (smaller) posets :-P Sorry 'bout that. And it should be much faster than the listing from your trac ticket (which you can close if your problem is solved, or recycle into a ticket to implement

Re: [sage-devel] PyCon talk proposal

2014-08-28 Thread mmarco
The spanish python conference (PyConEs) will happen in november. I am thinking about proposing myself for a short presentation of Sage. El jueves, 28 de agosto de 2014 09:07:11 UTC+2, Daniel Krenn escribió: Am 2014-08-26 um 11:58 schrieb Viviane Pons: a reminder that you still have until

Re: [sage-devel] PyCon talk proposal

2014-08-28 Thread Viviane Pons
Good! I just discovered there is a PyConFr. I might go there as well and submit a talk. Daniel: good news ;) I hope to see you there in Montreal then! 2014-08-28 10:47 GMT+02:00 mmarco mma...@unizar.es: The spanish python conference (PyConEs) will happen in november. I am thinking about

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 21:00:49 UTC+2 schrieb Travis Scrimshaw: IMO there are three big issues with the current Sage Windows VM: 1 - It's slow because it runs within the VM (which also causes some usability issues with multiple webpages by the OS setup); this also has high

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread William A Stein
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Emil Widmann emil.widm...@gmail.com wrote: Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 21:00:49 UTC+2 schrieb Travis Scrimshaw: IMO there are three big issues with the current Sage Windows VM: 1 - It's slow because it runs within the VM (which also causes some

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: remove python spkg and use pip instead

2014-08-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:11:47 PM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-08-27 21:01, Julien Puydt wrote: but on a general basis people are quite welcoming of sensible contributions. Depends on the project. Whenever I think a patch is good for upstream, I do submit it upstream.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2014 11:30:21 UTC+2 schrieb wstein: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Emil Widmann emil.w...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 21:00:49 UTC+2 schrieb Travis Scrimshaw: IMO there are three big issues with the current Sage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
The script to build the VM is here: https://bitbucket.org/vbraun/sage-virtual-appliance-buildscript If anybody wants to adapt it to build a minimal VM in addition to a full (ready-for-development) one then I'd be happy to run it twice. On Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:18:18 AM UTC+1, Emil

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
These links suggest bridged networking, with you should NOT do unless you are aware of the security implications. The VM uses NAT networking which makes it only accessible from the computer running the VM. For development you can just ssh into the VM (again, only from the host running the VM

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: remove python spkg and use pip instead

2014-08-28 Thread William A Stein
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori jpfl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:11:47 PM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-08-27 21:01, Julien Puydt wrote: but on a general basis people are quite welcoming of sensible contributions. Depends on the project.

[sage-devel] When the notebook tries to be smart

2014-08-28 Thread Nathann Cohen
Helll everybody ! I am having a small problem. There is a function that is meant to output a big table, and while it works fine in the console it is a mess in the notebook: from sage.combinat.designs.latin_squares import MOLS_table MOLS_table(50,1) This, because the notebook tries to be

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: remove python spkg and use pip instead

2014-08-28 Thread John Cremona
On 28 August 2014 10:54, William A Stein wst...@uw.edu wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori jpfl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:11:47 PM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-08-27 21:01, Julien Puydt wrote: but on a general basis people are quite

[sage-devel] Re: reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
Works with slrn pre1.0.2-9 (there was an old prompt about body encodings where your old slrn also failed, perhaps thats related). Screenshot: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/vbraun/UTF8/ I'm using gnome-terminal, but kterm/xterm/urxvt will all work fine. Some older (unmaintained) ones

Re: [sage-devel] When the notebook tries to be smart

2014-08-28 Thread William A Stein
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote: Helll everybody ! I am having a small problem. There is a function that is meant to output a big table, and while it works fine in the console it is a mess in the notebook: from

[sage-devel] Workshop announcement

2014-08-28 Thread Simon King
Dear Sage developers, please allow me to draw your attention to a workshop on Computations in Groups and Algebras that I am co-organising. It is Sage-related in the sense that several topics are available in Sage (groups via GAP, group cohomology by optional packages, commutative algebra via

Re: [sage-devel] reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-28 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM, William A Stein wst...@uw.edu wrote: There's nothing at all fundamentally incompatible about the preparser and numpy/scipy/cvxopt. Everything could be sorted out with a few appropriate hooks, maybe some patches, etc. yes, I think so too. But just for

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread mmarco
Iirc, it would be accessible from any machine that can access the host. It just should point to the forwarded ports -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread mmarco
Iirc, it would be accessible from any machine that can access the host. It just should point to the forwarded ports -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread kcrisman
On Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:46:27 AM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote: The script to build the VM is here: https://bitbucket.org/vbraun/sage-virtual-appliance-buildscript If anybody wants to adapt it to build a minimal VM in addition to a full (ready-for-development) one then I'd be happy

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: remove python spkg and use pip instead

2014-08-28 Thread kcrisman
But as Jeroen I always do submit patches upstream (unless it seems upstream vanished...). I even struggle to get some reaction from them when it seems they ignored or forgot my proposals. The best response I got so far was from the R folk:

Re: [sage-devel] taskforce: documentation

2014-08-28 Thread kcrisman
currently anyone working on improving it? I think the reference documentation is really good. But I can see a definite lack to make it more accessible to new users. Why not starting another branch and collect functionalities in a new way? Relevant comments. 1) There are a number

[sage-devel] Re: review requests

2014-08-28 Thread Jakob Kroeker
Hi Martin, I will even review the 16585 or at least major parts of it, but i'm currently on vacation so it will not happen before the 15th september. Jakob Am Montag, 4. August 2014 19:26:44 UTC+2 schrieb Martin Albrecht: Hi all, anyone up for reviewing: 1)

[sage-devel] #16897: use pip for Python packages

2014-08-28 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, I proposed recently on sage-devel to use pip instead of the sage-spkg script for some unpatched optional Python packages (i.e. beautiful soup, pyzmq, ...). I obtained two enthousiastics answers and then the thread definitely followed another road! I opened ticket #16897 for that... the

[sage-devel] upgrade to singular 4.0 in sage?

2014-08-28 Thread Jakob Kroeker
Hello, in the meantime the fourth patch of Singular release 4.0 is available at http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/ftp/pub/Math/Singular/SOURCES/4-0-0/ (please ignore the offered 3.1.7 version on their homepage; I don't really know why they promote v3.7) Among the re-factoring v4.0 contains a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-28 Thread Rafael Fourquet
Sorry, I had some errors in this next bit. myfun(a :: Union(EuclideanPoly, Poly)) It should have been myfun{T : Union(EuclideanPoly, Poly)}(a :: T) The first version is perfectly ok and more idiomatic in this case. You said earlier: So typically function signatures will look like

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade to singular 4.0 in sage?

2014-08-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I think one of lmonade's GSoC project was about that. But I don't think it was picked up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Function for subposet search

2014-08-28 Thread Jori Mantysalo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Nathann Cohen wrote: Yes, you do need this induced=True otherwise the chain contains all other (smaller) posets :-P But def has_isomorphic_subposet(A, B): for x in Subsets(A.list(), k=B.cardinality()): if A.subposet(x).is_isomorphic(B): return

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Jori Mantysalo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Emil Widmann wrote: IMO there are three big issues with the current Sage Windows VM: 1 - It's slow  because it runs within the VM (which also causes some usability issues with multiple webpages by the OS setup); this also has high memory usage. 2 - It's too big (I think

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Function for subposet search

2014-08-28 Thread Nathann Cohen
(In the forest) With the transitive closure ! The transitive closure AND induced= true. Append .transitive_closure() after each call to hasse_digram and it should work ! Nathann On Thursday, August 28, 2014, Jori Mantysalo jori.mantys...@uta.fi wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Nathann Cohen

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
To install the hypervisor (if you don't have a virtualization environment already) definitely requires administrative permissions. On Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:44:12 PM UTC+1, Jori Mantysalo wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Emil Widmann wrote: IMO there are three big issues with the current

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Function for subposet search

2014-08-28 Thread Jori Mantysalo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Nathann Cohen wrote: (In the forest) With the transitive closure ! The transitive closure AND induced= true. Now it seems to work! I'll continue testing, and add a function to sage. Is it pine forest? In any case, have a nice walk. -- Jori Mäntysalo (mänty=pine,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Vincent Delecroix
2014-08-28 17:44 UTC+02:00, Jori Mantysalo jori.mantys...@uta.fi: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Emil Widmann wrote: IMO there are three big issues with the current Sage Windows VM: 1 - It's slow because it runs within the VM (which also causes some usability issues with multiple webpages by the OS

[sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:13:25 AM UTC+1, Bill Hart wrote: I am again very interested in having Windows 64 ports of various packages. At the top of my list are: * GAP * Singular * Pari/GP by the way, GAP once used to support OS 9, the old Apple's OS, natively. (not sure at what

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] You don't really think that Sage has failed, do you? (a comment about it)

2014-08-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:27:21 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: Bingo, please clarify. To me, viable alternative means just that. Frankly, why did you include Matlab if you care about research mathematicians? Dima's answered this well. Quoting on this thread: Hey, a large

Re: [sage-devel] Re: On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-28 Thread Rafael Fourquet
or to constrain argument types, e.g. myfun{T}(a::Poly{T}, b::Poly{T}) = a+b # a and b must be Polys of the same type which is better expressed as : myfun{P:Poly}(a::P, b::P) = a+b So a better example: myfun{T}(a::Poly{T}, b::Monomial{T}) = ... -- You received this message because you are

[sage-devel] Developer guide

2014-08-28 Thread Samuel Lelièvre
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/ 403 Forbidden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[sage-devel] Re: Developer guide

2014-08-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-08-28, Samuel Lelièvre samuel.lelie...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/ 403 Forbidden Indeed! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[sage-devel] sagemath.org relaunch

2014-08-28 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, during the last couple of days I've rewritten much of sagemath.org and it's source is here: https://github.com/sagemath/website/ tl;dr: Bugfixes and a slight visual refreshment, borrowing ideas from some design principles. Almost everything should be at the same place … so relax ;-) Fixed:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Function for subposet search

2014-08-28 Thread Nathann Cohen
Yooo !!! Now it seems to work! I'll continue testing, and add a function to sage. It is meant to be equivalent, so it would be a bad news if they did not give the same answer :-P Is it pine forest? In any case, have a nice walk. Not a pine forest, but a good forest indeed. It had

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Function for subposet search

2014-08-28 Thread Jori Mantysalo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Nathann Cohen wrote: Now it seems to work! I'll continue testing, and add a function to sage. It is meant to be equivalent, so it would be a bad news if they did not give the same answer :-P As a side note of testing: Docs for is_modular() reference to the wikipedia

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Emil Widmann
However, can we put VirtualBox and Sage to one .exe? What is really needed is to convert http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance to be just 1) Download this .exe, 2) Doubleclick it, 3) Ready. Yes, I wrote an installer which included the VirtualBox installer and the Sage Appliance inside one

[sage-devel] slrn / UTF-8, was: reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-28 Thread Robert Dodier
On 2014-08-28, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: I just installed urxvt, and use it right now for writing this. However, the characters in the message to which I am replying here are still not shown nicely (although the message header says Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8). What

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] You don't really think that Sage has failed, do you? (a comment about it)

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 05:27:21AM -0700, kcrisman wrote: And the research algebra community is really not THAT big - certainly not of the people who are qualified, have time to work on code, and desire to. The combinatorics community is not that big either. And there are strong libraries in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: About docs (and code) of poset

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:14:09AM +0300, Jori Mantysalo wrote: Posets(5) which internally does something like [x for x in GenerateAllDirectedGrapsh(5) if x.is_poset()] Semantically, this is correct. Luckily the implementation is more clever than this: it only runs through digraphs that

Re: [sage-devel] Re: hiding doctest in documentation

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 02:23:02PM -0700, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: ... Just do ``sorted(d.items(), key=str)`` for doctests where the order could change (which usually is for dicts of size larger than 3). An variant which I like is to use ``pprint`` sage: d = { 'b':1, 'a':3, 'c':5

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Including private methods in documentation

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 05:15:54AM -0700, Volker Braun wrote: That is the correct way to include private methods in the documentation On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:40:30 AM UTC+1, Clemens Heuberger wrote: BTW, sage.databases.oeis.OEISSequence uses .. automethod::

Re: [sage-devel] Category framework strangeness

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 03:50:59AM -0700, Volker Braun wrote: The question wasn't whether it is unambiguous for the computer, but why it is ambiguously displayed to the user. I know. I just wanted to make sure nobody would worry about it. If axioms were internally represented by some

Re: [sage-devel] Re: very slow arithmetic in cartesian_product of fields

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 01:29:40AM -0700, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Perhaps the question is how to speed up the Cartesian product of rings in the case of rings being small, without resorting to having internal structures which would basically use addition and multiplication tables. That is,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] You don't really think that Sage has failed, do you? (a comment about it)

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi! For whatever two cents it's worth, here is my modest analysis of the situation and how I'll try to contribute to tackle this. I am using the same metric as William: is Sage becoming a viable alternative to XXX. However, by this, I don't mean that it should completely take over the

Re: [sage-devel] Category framework strangeness

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 09:20:54AM +0100, John Cremona wrote: It would be more readable if it appeared as Category of associative additive-commutative additive-associative additive-unital distributive magmas and additive magmas where I have inserted a hyphen into your pairs of words. That

Re: [sage-devel] Re: creating a new monoid together with a new group (categories)

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 03:44:26PM +0200, Daniel Krenn wrote: This sounds like a coercion from the monoid to the group, but IMHO should be the other way round. Each group element is also an monoid element (therefore the coercion always works). +1. It might make sense to define the group as a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: problem with polynomial.__iter__

2014-08-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:03:46PM -0700, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: IMO we should swap the order of the pairs. It would make it consistent with other parts of Sage too: ... I have been dreaming of this change for quite some time. I don't have an opinion on whether it's acceptable to

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: remove python spkg and use pip instead

2014-08-28 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Haha! And William and many of the rest of us are slowly creeping closer to retirement than birth as well ;-) That applies to all us, except in the curious case of Benjamin Button. :P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To

Re: [sage-devel] Re: problem with polynomial.__iter__

2014-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
iteritems() is gone in Python 3... On Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:26:34 PM UTC+1, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: So maybe the right way would be to instead implement iteritems for all elements of ModulesWithBasis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread kcrisman
However, can we put VirtualBox and Sage to one .exe? What is really needed is to convert http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance to be just 1) Download this .exe, 2) Doubleclick it, 3) Ready. Yes, I wrote an installer which included the VirtualBox installer and the Sage Appliance

Re: [sage-devel] Category framework strangeness

2014-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
On Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:20:30 PM UTC+1, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: about the heuristic itself: describe to me, in a generic way, what output you'd want to have for a category of magmas and additive magmas Definitely hyphenate compound adjectives if there is more than one compound.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Function for subposet search

2014-08-28 Thread Jori Mantysalo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Jori Mantysalo wrote: As a side note of testing: Docs for is_modular() reference to the wikipedia Uh, forget. If poset is also lattice and has subposet that is also lattice, still subposet might not be sublattice. -- Jori Mäntysalo -- You received this message because

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
VirtualBox (OSE edition) is GPLv2 so we are free to modify and distribute it. We don't link against it so there is no issue with GPL versions... Any installer / Sage frontend would have to be GPLv2 compatible. On Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:51:26 PM UTC+1, Emil Widmann wrote: However,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] You don't really think that Sage has failed, do you? (a comment about it)

2014-08-28 Thread Viviane Pons
I really agree with your comments. And in terms of niche, I would add that Sage is actually becoming one for combinatorics. I don't say that everyone in combinatorics is using Sage but I know lots of people (including me) for whom it would be quite complicated to move to another language. And we

[sage-devel] SPKGs that installs Python code

2014-08-28 Thread Bart S
Most SPKGs seem to install binaries that are then called from existing Sage code. Are there also examples of SPKGs that installs Python code that integrates with Sage (like adding a new module)? Bart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel

Re: [sage-devel] SPKGs that installs Python code

2014-08-28 Thread François Bissey
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:25:24 Bart S wrote: Most SPKGs seem to install binaries that are then called from existing Sage code. Are there also examples of SPKGs that installs Python code that integrates with Sage (like adding a new module)? If you mean inside site-packages/sage not currently as

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
On 28 Aug 2014 21:58, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: However, can we put VirtualBox and Sage to one .exe? What is really needed is to convert http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance to be just 1) Download this .exe, 2) Doubleclick it, 3) Ready. Yes, I wrote an installer which included

Re: [sage-devel] SPKGs that installs Python code

2014-08-28 Thread Bart S
ah, OK, the reason is I found this post [1], which seems to suggest that the maxima spkg did this at some point. (but it doesn't at the moment) [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel/4941 On Friday, August 29, 2014 12:18:50 AM UTC+2, François wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug

Re: [sage-devel] SPKGs that installs Python code

2014-08-28 Thread François Bissey
Well technically you can install something directly in the sage tree. But unless you also provide a detection mechanism in sage/all.py you will always have to import it manually. Which may or may not be a good idea or nice. Francois On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:41:32 Bart S wrote: ah, OK, the reason

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Jori Mantysalo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Emil Widmann wrote: However, can we put VirtualBox and Sage to one .exe? What is really needed is to convert http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance to be just 1) Download this .exe, 2) Doubleclick it, 3) Ready. Yes, I wrote an installer which included the VirtualBox

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Jori Mantysalo
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Vincent Delecroix wrote: Note that for teaching/installation there is an alternative: tell the students to come with a USB stick and just clone the sage-debian live (http://sagedebianlive.metelu.net/). It is very easy to use and all students will have exactly the same