Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-10 Thread Tom Boothby
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Tom Boothby wrote: Context is important.  The GPL doesn't say that every GPL'd interactive program must print a banner.  It says that if such a banner is printed by a current GPL'd programs, then *if you

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Tom Boothby wrote: Context is important. The GPL doesn't say that every GPL'd interactive program must print a banner. It says that if such a banner is printed by a current GPL'd programs, then *if you distribute a modified copy*, that copy must also print the banner. Personally, I would

[sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
From reading the GPL, it would appear that Sage should print more information than it currently does when it starts. Specifically 1) State the program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY when it starts up in command line mode 2) Should display the fact the program is GPL if used in a browser,

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Nick Alexander
2) Display a notice on the browser window that the program is GPL, say it has no warranty etc, then say To see the full terms of the license, type licence() at the Sage prompt Isn't this enough? -- | Sage Version 4.1.1,

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Nick Alexander wrote: 2) Display a notice on the browser window that the program is GPL, say it has no warranty etc, then say To see the full terms of the license, type licence() at the Sage prompt Isn't this enough? -- |

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: From reading the GPL, it would appear that Sage should print more information than it currently does when it starts. Specifically 1) State the program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY when it starts up in command line mode 2) Should

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread John Cremona
What's the right way to post a change to SAGE_ROOT/COPYING.txt (which is what is displayed when you run license(), as I just discovered)? It mentions mwrank which is obsolete (we now use eclib which is strictly larger), and the web address it gives for that is 2.5 years out of date. I can

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: From reading the GPL, it would appear that Sage should print more information than it currently does when it starts. Specifically 1) State the program

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Tom Boothby
Context is important. The GPL doesn't say that every GPL'd interactive program must print a banner. It says that if such a banner is printed by a current GPL'd programs, then *if you distribute a modified copy*, that copy must also print the banner. The most ordinary manner of running Sage

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: One of my favorite GPL'd programs is called bash. Let's see what it does for a banner; wst...@ubuntu:~/sage/spkg/standard$ bash wst...@ubuntu:~$ exit There is no banner. William I think that case would be covered by the (Exception: if the Program itself is

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Tom Boothby wrote: Context is important. The GPL doesn't say that every GPL'd interactive program must print a banner. It says that if such a banner is printed by a current GPL'd programs, then *if you distribute a modified copy*, that copy must also print the banner. I would have thought

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 at 11:54PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Personally I find it odd that the notebook has nothing at all to indicate it is GPL - not even a hint as to a command to display the license. I do too. It's trivial to add something to the front page of the notebook -- something in

Re: [sage-devel] GPL issues again - trivial ones this time !!!

2010-02-09 Thread Tim Daly
Try sending a question to FSF. I'm sure they'd give you an authoritative answer. Stallman has answered every question I ever sent him. Tim Daly Tom Boothby wrote: Context is important. The GPL doesn't say that every GPL'd interactive program must print a banner. It says that if such a banner