davmail

2017-09-27 Thread Yasha Karant
the tray : end excerpt that is followed by examples of the various GUI boxes that one must complete. Thanks for any assistance. Yasha Karant <>

Re: davmail

2017-09-27 Thread Yasha Karant
On 09/27/2017 09:50 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote: On 09/27/2017 06:33 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: I have been instructed to use davmail by the university IT who insist that the university use a proprietary Microsoft email service.  Although the service nominally provides IETF SMTP and IMAP compliant

Re: davmail

2017-09-28 Thread Yasha Karant
On 09/28/2017 04:25 AM, Bruce Ferrell wrote: On 09/27/2017 09:56 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: On 09/27/2017 09:50 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote: On 09/27/2017 06:33 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: I have been instructed to use davmail by the university IT who insist that the university use a proprietary

Brother dcpl2540dw

2017-10-29 Thread Yasha Karant
application?  If so, any comments?  Is there any GPL, etc., application with similar functionality? Thanks for any information. Yasha Karant

development environment for "lowest common denominator"

2017-11-08 Thread Yasha Karant
U production release), compile on each environment, and run.   I know that this works for various interpreters (e.g., java, python) -- but we are looking for compiled to physical machine code if possible. Yasha Karant

off line upgrade to 7.5 from 7 previous

2018-08-21 Thread Yasha Karant
SB drive), is there a way to get to the old GUI upgrade option that seems no longer available? Please reply to ykar...@gmail.com. Any assistance would be appreciated. Yasha Karant https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__access.redhat.com_documentation_en-2Dus_re

Re: off line upgrade to 7.5 from 7 previous

2018-08-22 Thread Yasha Karant
"glitches"  during a yumex massive update, would the system again be in an unbootable state? Does anyone have a mechanism for SL7.5 to perform an upgrade rather than a new install booting from the install ISO image file? Thanks, Yasha Karant On 08/21/2018 03:47 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wro

Re: off line upgrade to 7.5 from 7 previous [2]

2018-08-22 Thread Yasha Karant
network where I work i not designed for reliable systems work but rather end-user files (if the network glitches, simply repeat the download, etc.), is there a mechanism to update from media, say using the iso install image from a USB thumb drive? Thanks for any assistance. Yasha Karant On

Re: off line upgrade to 7.5 from 7 previous [2]

2018-08-23 Thread Yasha Karant
d drive to a 2 Tbyte  external USB hard drive using dd. If I cannot get yum to "restart", I will do a full install from the USB ISO SL 7.5 install image, and then restore /home , /opt, ssh-keys, and the like from the image, unless a better approach appears in response. Yasha Karant

off line upgrade to 7.5 from 7 previous [3]

2018-08-23 Thread Yasha Karant
ess is there are one or more yum bookkeeping files that need modification for a "fresh" yum update to be enabled. Any further assistance would be appreciated. Yasha Karant

off line upgrade to 7.5 from 7 previous [3] (was Re;)

2018-08-25 Thread Yasha Karant
hen rebooted.  It did panic with the SL 7.5 kernel, but not the SL 7.1 kernel, just no Xwindows. Thanks again for any assistance. Yasha Karant On 08/24/2018 03:54 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 1:41 PM Yasha Karant wrote: Thanks for that approach. As I can get to USB drives, w

parted and mount

2018-09-25 Thread Yasha Karant
hard drive). Why do parted and mount have this difference? Yasha Karant

Re: parted and mount ** EXTERNAL **

2018-09-26 Thread Yasha Karant
To be clear, I created the partition and the XFS format using gparted, the gnome GUI interface to parted.  My recollection from the past, and my observation as the drive was "flashing", was that I did not need manually to invoke mkfs using the GUI.  However, rereading the man page for gparted,

Re: parted and mount ** EXTERNAL **

2018-09-26 Thread Yasha Karant
) Disk /dev/sdb: 2000GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: loop Disk Flags: Number  Start  End Size    File system  Flags  1  0.00B  2000GB  2000GB  xfs Note that mount on the system reporting the above has no issue with mounting a /dev/xyz device not as /dev/xyzN Y

Re: parted and mount

2018-09-27 Thread Yasha Karant
system formats -- given the current stability and capabilities of XFS, that is the file system (not partition, etc., scheme) that I prefer. Aside (not SL):  Does anyone know:   is XFS available for MS Win, Mac OS X, or Android?  If so, is it licensed for free, or is it only through a proprietary

gaming laptop compatibility

2018-10-15 Thread Yasha Karant
ported, in that Ubuntu keeps closer to the "bleeding edge" of Linux hardware support. Thanks for any specific information. Yasha Karant Excerpt: How to buy a gaming laptop They're cheaper, lighter and more powerful than ever before. Devindra Hardawar If your priority is smooth

Update via SL 7.5 install USB flash drive

2018-10-17 Thread Yasha Karant
liographic citation with a URL thus making bibliographic references impossible. Yasha Karant

Re: Update via SL 7.5 install USB flash drive

2018-10-17 Thread Yasha Karant
, but otherwise have little meaningful influence over decisions. I will attempt to implement what is suggested below without access to the Kadel-Garcia tool set, but I suspect that the tool set will save me some time and effort. Thanks for your patience. Yasha Karant On 10/17/2018 08:03 PM

Re: Update via SL 7.5 install USB flash drive

2018-10-18 Thread Yasha Karant
fPoint won't mangle it - we'll see...) > > https : // itsa . ifas . ufl . edu / email / proofpoint . shtml > > I have this bookmarked in my Chrome bookmarks bar for quick lookups. > > Hope that helps your angst somewhat. > - Larry > > > Yasha Karant wrote on

boot hang

2018-10-27 Thread Yasha Karant
d a minimal update using yumex. Yasha Karant

Re: boot hang

2018-10-28 Thread Yasha Karant
On 10/27/2018 07:08 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 10/27/18 10:42 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: >> Using yumex, rather than doing a full update to SL 7.5 production, I >> attempted to update over the network the kernel, firmware, and libgcc, >> allowing yumex (essentially yum) to

Re: boot hang

2018-10-30 Thread Yasha Karant
On 10/28/2018 11:07 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 10/28/18 2:24 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: >> On 10/27/2018 07:08 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> On 10/27/18 10:42 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: >>>> Using yumex, rather than doing a full update to SL 7.5 production, I

key scancode and result

2018-11-01 Thread Yasha Karant
ed to diagnose and possibly repair this issue? Any help would be appreciated. Yasha Karant

Enterprise Linux 8 beta

2019-01-14 Thread Yasha Karant
patches/updates af some time in the future. Is such a move allowed under the Linux, GPL, etc., licenses? Thanks, Yasha Karant

latest VLC GU failure

2019-02-06 Thread Yasha Karant
m using MATE , but will attempt this under KDE or GNOME if there is a reason to do that for VLC. Any suggestions on what to do (e.g., are there one or more configuration files for running, not building, vlc or whatever that need to be changed? Yasha Karant I would appreciate replies to ykar...@gmail.com

pointing stick (trackpoint) activation

2019-05-01 Thread Yasha Karant
sonal (not SL list) email responses. Any help would be appreciated. Yasha Karant

Re: pointing stick (trackpoint) activation

2019-05-01 Thread Yasha Karant
I found one of the GUI applications -- gpointing-device-settings -- in a Fedora 17 x86-64 RPM that I downloaded and installed as the output is displayed below.  This application did find the touchpad pointing device (screenshot of GUI available upon request) but did not find the pointing stick.

Firmware Bug update microcode to version: 0x22 (or later

2019-05-08 Thread Yasha Karant
ks for any information. Yasha Karant

Firmware Bug update microcode to version: 0x22 (or later [2] Fixed

2019-05-08 Thread Yasha Karant
de"? The CPU is an Intel I7 in a HP Zbook laptop from several years ago. Thanks for any information. Yasha Karant

Re: centOS 8

2019-10-16 Thread Yasha Karant
s not a viable longterm solution, particularly as new hardware configurations emerge (or needed applications such as VirtualBox or VMWare will require "later" libraries than what are available for SL 7). Yasha Karant On 10/5/19 10:25 AM, Larry Linder wrote: > After tossing in the towel

Calibre current

2020-01-30 Thread Yasha Karant
so.64) Is the required lib available for SL7 without disrupting the OS per se? If not, does anyone know the last Calibre that does work with SL7? Any help would be appreciated. Yasha Karant ykar...@gmail.com

EL 8

2020-01-30 Thread Yasha Karant
CUDA GPUs) as well as desktop and laptop machines, all presently X86-64 based (this may change for at least some of the servers). Any advice would be appreciated. Yasha Karant

MATE desktop upgrade fail SL7

2020-02-19 Thread Yasha Karant
ate failure and s there a workaround? Or, just move on to EL 8 (I am leaning towards Princeton Springdale 8 if it becomes available or possibly current Oracle EL 8, or simple leaving EL and going to Ubuntu LTS)? I do not like either the current Gnome or KDE desktop environments. Yasha Karant

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] MATE desktop upgrade fail SL7

2020-02-20 Thread Yasha Karant
thin the general Linux sphere)? Yasha Karant [root@localhost ykarant]# yum downgrade libgpod Loaded plugins: langpacks, nvidia Repository sl is listed more than once in the configuration Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package libgpod.x86_64 0:0.8.2-12.el7 will be a

Re: Is Scientfic Linux Still Active as a Distribution?

2020-02-20 Thread Yasha Karant
I used the term "dead".  SL7 (and earlier?) is still active.  By dead, I did not mean SL 7, I meant SL in general for the future.   As I understand the situation, Fermilab/CERN (and thus the HEP community upon which many of us are "piggybacking" -- not freeloading if one is paying taxes to a go

Re: Is Scientfic Linux Still Active as a Distribution?

2020-02-21 Thread Yasha Karant
CERN, but not CentOS -- if we cannot pay, we should not use -- but the realities of much university-based academic research is that there is no money and we do what we can. In the simplest terms. I trust IBM to maximize overall return-on-investment (e.g., profit), and a "free" CentOS that tru

Re: Is Scientfic Linux Still Active as a Distribution?

2020-02-21 Thread Yasha Karant
tive.  There is no internal support at my campus for academic freedom curiosity-directed disciplinary research, with some support for some persons to secure external funding.  My funding to do any of this was external, not internal. Yasha Karant On 2/21/20 5:49 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: Andrew Z

Re: Is Scientfic Linux Still Active as a Distribution?

2020-02-22 Thread Yasha Karant
e is a more appropriate list to which to move this discussion, advice would be appreciated.   However, such a list needs to be for "professional" use, not "enthusiast end-user" use (who are looking for a different gaming environment, etc., than MS Win or Mac OS X). Yasha Ka

Experience with alternative to EL8

2020-04-05 Thread Yasha Karant
vident than strictly character based data. As an enduser workstation, Ubuntu 18x LTS does seem to work. To everyone: stay safe, stay well. Yasha Karant

Re: Experience with alternative to EL8

2020-04-06 Thread Yasha Karant
it) supply proprietary drivers (that is, Linux ports of the driver from the proprietary specifications supplied to Microsoft). Stay safe -- stay isolated. Yasha Karant On 4/6/20 10:56 AM, Brett Viren wrote: Yasha Karant writes: Zoom Ignoring the recent news items and that the Zoom client for Ubuntu

how to record sound to an existing MP4 file

2020-04-21 Thread Yasha Karant
cation for Linux would be appreciated; in a worse case, a MS Win one will suffice.  We do not have a Mac OS X machine. Please do not reply solely to this list and my university email.  My private email -- much more reliable -- is ykar...@gmail.com . Yasha Karant

kdenlive

2020-04-22 Thread Yasha Karant
that SL7 is a "dead end" being that the only EL 8 not from IBM RH is CentOS, Oracle, or eventually, Princeton. Does anyone have a SL7 fix for the observed failure below? Stay safe. Take care. Yasha Karant [root@localhost ykarant]# yum install kdenlive Loaded plugins: langpack

kdenlive progress, yum dependencies need to be added

2020-04-22 Thread Yasha Karant
libvpx codecs? Any help would be appreciated. Stay safe.  Take care. Yasha Karant

Re: kdenlive progress, yum dependencies need to be added

2020-04-23 Thread Yasha Karant
nt, I am not considering going to either CentOS or Oracle EL 8. As we have a residential DSL Internet connection, the yumex upgrade from start to successful reboot lasted approximately 5 hours.  I had to wait until there were no Zoom sessions being required. Stay safe.  Take care. Yasha Kar

Future SL minor releases, was: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] kdenlive progress, yum dependencies need to be added

2020-04-24 Thread Yasha Karant
doing independent builds?  Any idea about EPEL, ElRepo, etc., updates as well? Thank you for any clarification. Stay safe.  Take care. Yasha Karant On 4/24/20 10:10 AM, Patrick Riehecky wrote: On Thu, 2020-04-23 at 23:36 -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: is SL 7.8 the end of SL 7? The projected end

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Future SL minor releases, was: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] kdenlive progress, yum dependencies need to be added

2020-04-24 Thread Yasha Karant
ajor" update I just did) it is more convenient to use yumex. Stay safe.  Take care. Yasha Karant On 4/24/20 12:22 PM, Patrick Riehecky wrote: So long as the upstream source is published, we plan to continue Scientific Linux updates and new releases. Pat On Fri, 2020-04-24 at 12:18 -0700

Re: Future SL minor releases, was: Re: kdenlive progress, yum dependencies need to be added

2020-04-24 Thread Yasha Karant
almost all RPMs designed for CentOS 7 "load" into SL 7, as all are "EL 7")?  I understand that you are NOT the official contact for those other entities and do not support their efforts, but are there any subscribers to this list who can answer this point? Stay safe.  T

Snaps

2020-04-24 Thread Yasha Karant
sA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=U_9rXUp841lroS3b1I6BqsdWAC2VbH7OW6jZvmufgR4&s=d0abLQSs1MMvnuo9AY7kbu0yBXuChcPX0YhPW64_DVE&e= > (EPEL) repository. The EPEL repository can be added to your system with the following command: Thanks for any information. Yasha Karant

Re: Snaps

2020-04-25 Thread Yasha Karant
tion to get EL at "no cost" -- although there are such solutions from other Ubuntu/Debian based distros). Stay safe.  Take care. Yasha Karant On 4/24/20 11:24 PM, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:38 AM Yasha Ka

gcc 5.4.0 on EL 7

2020-04-25 Thread Yasha Karant
ations, or will it "coexist" with the distro gcc? Stay safe.  Take care. Yasha Karant From calibre: Download for Linux The latest release of calibre is 4.14.0. What's new <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calibre-2Debook.com_whats-2Dnew&d=D

LibreOffice

2020-05-03 Thread Yasha Karant
ice application site current production, is there any reason (feature, import or export conversion, including LaTeX export) to retain older production releases of LibreOffice (I have one 4.x production version)? Stay safe.  Take care. Yasha Karant

gscan2pdf

2020-05-17 Thread Yasha Karant
rmine.  Is there any SL 7.8 compatible gscan2pdf that works? Take care.  Stay safe. Yasha Karant

Re: gscan2pdf

2020-05-18 Thread Yasha Karant
On 5/18/20 4:54 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:13 AM Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 8:18 PM Yasha Karant wrote: I have found gscan2pdf on the NUX repo, but installing this repo evidently will add and replace many utilities, etc., that may not be wise

Re: Mate for CentOS 8 (thanks)

2020-05-19 Thread Yasha Karant
lf-driving cars and advanced robots.  Is this advert factual?  If so, why is HEP staying with EL -- is it inertia or are there significant stability advantages to EL over LTS? Yasha Karant On 5/19/20 10:23 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: Metoo. I use the MATE desktop, as the least annoying of

Re: Desired packages

2020-05-20 Thread Yasha Karant
On 5/20/20 8:07 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 5/19/20 11:03 PM, Arthur H. Edwards wrote: I'm running SL7. Is there a kbibtex package? is there a gnuplot-qt package? Art Edwards kbibtex is in EPEL.  I'm not aware of a gnuplot-qt package for EL7. I assume https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/

off SL

2020-05-22 Thread Yasha Karant
this, please reply, preferably off list to ykar...@gmail.com so that any URLs will not be "modified" by the security filters at my university. Take care.  Stay safe. Yasha Karant

Re: off SL

2020-05-26 Thread Yasha Karant
I have done upgrade in place (no new harddrive unless we needed a larger capacity drive) on several unix/bsd derivatives.  Your file system comments are very well taken.   However, using "stock" Ubuntu LTS for the OS and file system, is your experience contrary to those of others? On 5/26/20 7

updating Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird

2020-06-04 Thread Yasha Karant
entry from the cache"? Currently, SL 7.8 . Take care.  Stay safe. Yasha Karant

Texstudio 3

2020-08-25 Thread Yasha Karant
. Does any have or is planning to have a Texstudio 3 EL7 RPM (or SNAP package)? Thanks, Yasha Karant [root@localhost Downloads]# yum install ./texstudio-3.0.0-6.1.x86_64.rpm Loaded plugins: langpacks, nvidia Repository sl is listed more than once in the configuration Examining ./texstudio-3.0.0

Re: Texstudio 3

2020-08-25 Thread Yasha Karant
ll be additional missing utilities, dependencies, or revision levels. Thanks. Again, please reply to ykar...@gmail.com On 8/25/20 6:50 PM, Chris Schanzle wrote: On 8/25/20 7:48 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: Please reply to ykar...@gmail.com Take care. Stay safe. I was attempting to migrate from produ

AppImage under SL 7

2020-08-26 Thread Yasha Karant
e for EL 7 and will not cause other applications/kernel to fail? If these are available, relevant URLs (or what to install under yum) would be appreciated. Please reply to ykar...@gmail.com Take care. Stay safe. Yasha Karant

Re: AppImage under SL 7

2020-08-27 Thread Yasha Karant
On 8/26/20 11:10 PM, Götz Waschk wrote: Am 27.08.20 um 02:29 schrieb Yasha Karant: I still am attempting to migrate to Texstudio 3 production current release.  I have found on the Texstudio web site an appimage file for Texstudio 3. From: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https

Migrations to other linux distro

2020-11-07 Thread Yasha Karant
procedure is to nonetheless backup all non-distro directories and files to an external device so that things can be retrieved if something were to go awry. Take care. Stay safe. Yasha Karant

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread Yasha Karant
For those who want to be nauseated, here is the essential quote of the post: The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a curre

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread Yasha Karant
I agree with your sentiments, based upon several informal discussions I have had with CentOS 8 "adopters". "Supported" RHEL 8 seems to be better -- but are there still issues with EPEL, etc., because of inappropriate sub-system designations (as with the python example you provide)? From what

Re: Dose any of this surprize you.

2020-12-09 Thread Yasha Karant
source (by treaty or the equivalent?). Very few if any USA universities have the same stable funding. Yasha Karant On 12/9/20 7:25 AM, Larry Linder wrote: In the early days of Windows 3.0 and OS/2. Windows 3.0 was short lived because every user knew it was a dog. OS/2 was pretty nice but had a

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-09 Thread Yasha Karant
If my recollection of the history is correct, CentOS and Princeton EL were separate from SL. CentOS originally was a "volunteer" effort building from RHEL source, with RH personnel monitoring the CentOS "lists" because CentOS had a wider range of an installed base on enthusiast and home user s

Re: Dose any of this surprize you.

2020-12-09 Thread Yasha Karant
A note: On 12/9/20 11:05 AM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 10:25:36AM -0500, Larry Linder wrote: Everytime I am forced to use Windows 10 my neurons rebel at the moron aware SW. I am sorry you are in the position where you are forced to use Windows, I feel lucky that I

Re: Rocky Linux

2020-12-09 Thread Yasha Karant
As all of the URLs posted below have been modified, I followed one of these (that Proofpoint did convert back to the real URL), and found: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_what-2Drhel-2Dsrpm-2Dsource-2Dto-2Duse_124&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=

Re: Rocky Linux

2020-12-10 Thread Yasha Karant
nacceptable to have a volunteer (and in many cases, amateur) developer/support arrangement for "mission critical" systems and applications software. Yasha Karant On 12/10/20 8:47 AM, Vinícius Ferrão wrote: I’ve done this mistake in the past. The major issue with Debian is its lifec

Re: Rocky Linux

2020-12-10 Thread Yasha Karant
al volunteers typically exacerbate this situation. On 12/10/20 8:18 PM, ~Stack~ wrote: On 12/10/20 4:47 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: Again, my own needs are such that it is unacceptable to have a volunteer (and in many cases, amateur) developer/support arrangement for "mission critical" syst

Re: CentOS EOL - politics?

2020-12-11 Thread Yasha Karant
I agree with your analysis, save for three comments. Mine also is not a political comment, merely an analysis of fact. Overwhelmingly throughout the world, HEP is funded by public funds (sometimes from totalitarian dictatorships if one can call such "public"). HEP addresses basic science, fu

Re: Sustainable computing - Re: CentOS EOL - politics?

2020-12-12 Thread Yasha Karant
I am familiar with Kubernetes that initiated though Google engineering staff as I recall. For those who are quite unfamiliar with Kubernetes, a brief overview with references is https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Kubernetes&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49Q

Re: SL7 with security and bug fixes forever - how much work?

2020-12-13 Thread Yasha Karant
s or compensated "Gig economy" "workers" does not result in stability. Stability requires compensated permanent professionals (except for those who are independently "wealthy" and are willing to be permanent "volunteers", an unlike staff arrangement). Y

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
for the to-be-defunct CentOS 8, CentOS 7 can keep SL 7 patched for security, albeit not necessarily for new hardware (e.g., backporting drivers) or supporting new CPU and system I/O architectures. Yasha Karant On 12/14/20 3:39 AM, Maarten wrote: I already converted over my personal systems ove

Re: SL7 with security and bug fixes forever - how much work?

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
I fully agree. The security-against-compromise integrity of up-ported "SL7" using C++n, for some n > n(RHEL 7."latest or last" distro) requires "professional" re-evaluation, penetration testing, and monitoring. Will this be done? I too have run into the same issues with backporting, and for

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
even after Rocky Linux  is released. Maarten On 12/14/20 8:49 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: Springdale EL (Princeton in my terminology, just as SL is Fermilab/CERN) shows the following: Download DVD i386    x86_64 8.3    TBA    TBA That is, there is no repo with an installable EL 8 ISO image.  As f

Re: SL7 with security and bug fixes forever - how much work?

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
along with other architectural differences). Out of curiosity, how similar are the Apple Mac ARM CPUs to the CPU used in the Fujitsu Fugaku HPC machine (A64FX 48C 2.2GHz)? On 12/14/20 12:12 PM, Jon Pruente wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:07 PM Yasha Karant <mailto:ykar...@gmail.com>> w

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
. *From:* owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov on behalf of Yasha Karant *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 2:44 PM *To:* scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov *Subject:* Re: Springdale Linux Thank you for quoting from the Princeton material.  I had read the Princeton commentary a while

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
As I recall, what you state below is similar in sentiment to response/s when I noted the "same" comment concerning Princeton EL in the past. I take it from your response no one in the larger EL community (including HPC/HTC) shares the Princeton "sentiment" and that there is no "basis in data/f

tnt file extension 3D viewer application wanted

2020-12-16 Thread Yasha Karant
I have a file with extension .tnt . This is a file that is used by an appropriate viewer to produce a "3d image" on a 2D screen without augmentation (goggles, etc.). Is there either a viewer that can render tnt files, or a converter that will convert a tnt file to a more common 3d image file fo

Update from Rocky EL

2020-12-16 Thread Yasha Karant
cky EL executables as supplied? Or will the HEP community do internal evaluation and testing before deployment, keeping a working distro separate from the vagaries of what may (NOTE: *MAY*, not will) be an amateur volunteer distro? Take care. Stay safe. Yasha Karant gmk December 16th at 1

Re: Update from Rocky EL

2020-12-16 Thread Yasha Karant
, and a compensated professional staff behind the distro (as observed many times on this SL list). On 12/16/20 6:17 PM, Vinícius Ferrão wrote: Hi Yasha, link seems to be broken. It points to a Google Docs document that’s unavailable. On 16 Dec 2020, at 20:27, Yasha Karant wrote: I do n

Re: Update from Rocky EL

2020-12-17 Thread Yasha Karant
stly off-list if you prefer. I do note that some Rocky EL personnel you envision to be "paid" developers. Full time? "Gig"? From where do you envision the pay to come? With proper benefits (not required in those nation-states that have social services and benefits for

Re: Joint Fermilab/CERN statement on recent CentOS Changes

2020-12-17 Thread Yasha Karant
me sort of information as the current SL users list? Yasha Karant On 12/17/20 8:07 AM, Takashi Ichihara wrote: URL: CentOS 8  Linux@CERN https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/ Regrds, Takashi On 2020/12/18 0:17, James F Amundson wrote: CERN and Fermilab acknowledge the recent decision to shift

Re: Update from Rocky EL

2020-12-17 Thread Yasha Karant
AM *To:* scientific-linux-users *Subject:* Re: Update from Rocky EL On 12/16/20 9:55 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: ... The question I raised still needs to be addressed:  will Rocky EL be done by paid professionals (as with SL or Springdale Princeton EL) or will it be done by volunteers, some (many) of w

Update from Rocky EL

2020-12-17 Thread Yasha Karant
I do not currently have the time or inclination to address the various points raised in the exchange/commentary, to which I am adding some comments, in sufficient detail. UC CSRG BSD original deployment largely evolved for DEC hardware platforms, such as the PDP-11 (with segmented overlay memo

SL compared to Ubuntu LTS major release upgrade

2020-12-20 Thread Yasha Karant
ewing files of various types (e.g., TeXstudio) than does SL, mostly because of SL using an older c/c++ library that also is used by SL ("kernel") and thus not easy (nor safe) to change. Take care. Stay safe. Yasha Karant

Re: SL compared to Ubuntu LTS major release upgrade

2020-12-22 Thread Yasha Karant
To the best of my understanding, both Fedora and the coming CentOS are beta (development/testing) environments, not stable production environments, as is non-LTS Ubuntu. I know of many people who use Fedora -- and more than once had bad experiences because of a software defect. This is much les

Re: SL compared to Ubuntu LTS major release upgrade

2020-12-22 Thread Yasha Karant
I agree. However, when I examine the log of which packages were replaced (I mean that the files associated with major release N were fully replaced by those of major release N+1 -- however, log and end user configuration were retained, such as the list of users, passwords, etc.), I find that a

Re: Way Off Topic - HEP Network Symphony Orchestra

2020-12-23 Thread Yasha Karant
I replied off-list on this topic, with similar thoughts as to what is stated below. There are numerous issues, particularly with non-professional software applications not designed for "broadcast" use in addition to the physics and implemented technological limitations discussed below. Any on

Ubuntu LTS philosophy

2020-12-25 Thread Yasha Karant
There has been some discussion of the differences between the RPM and DEB philosophies, in particular Ubuntu LTS and RHEL derivatives such as the soon to be defunct SL without clear replacement (hopes for RockyEL that probably will not have the sort of support the HEP community through CERN/Fer

RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-29 Thread Yasha Karant
Unlock messages prior to December 20th in The Next Generation of High Performance Computing Community To view and search all the messages in your workspace’s history, rather than just the 10,000 most recent, upgrade to one of our paid plans. The above is the message upon reading the current Roc

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-30 Thread Yasha Karant
distro (or other engineering artifact for that matter) is not a complaint, but simply proper engineering. Actual binary executables are constructed through engineering and technology. On 12/30/20 8:08 AM, Jon Pruente wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 6:51 PM Yasha Karant <mailto:ykar...@gmail.

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Yasha Karant
AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 12/31/20 12:05 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: ... It is difficult, but not impossible, to have a distro that does not have computer science and engineering professionals ... doing the implementation that is suitable for "hardened" production use, including converting a

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Yasha Karant
tinue to support porting needed drivers and utilities to EL 8, 9, ... , and thus Rocky EL. On 12/31/20 7:21 AM, Jon Pruente wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:06 PM Yasha Karant <mailto:ykar...@gmail.com>> wrote: Beef:  Slang.       a complaint.      an argument or dispute.

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Yasha Karant
Heaviside could not be allowed to join the Faculty, and definitely not the tenure-stream Faculty. My university looks at the bar-code, as it were, not the actual contents. On 12/31/20 4:42 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 2:19 PM Yasha Karant wrote: I fully agree

Re: arstechnica: "CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers"

2021-01-20 Thread Yasha Karant
NB: "We" below refers to the Arstechnica persons. The solution below seems to be at no cost, but will not address a university, CERN, Fermilab, etc., multiple copy deployment as this exceeds the IBM RH "no fee" limit. Presumably there is some mechanism to prevent no fee use of the deployable

Re: Rhel 8

2021-01-22 Thread Yasha Karant
My understanding is that only SuSE, Red Hat, and Ubuntu produce open systems ("free to port" with attribution and removal of copyrighted logo intellectual property) "enterprise" distros -- and all of these in current production release use SystemD, etc., baggage. Was Torvalds behind SystemD, e

Re: Rhel 8

2021-01-22 Thread Yasha Karant
on, to me this is not the same as the Tomasulo algorithm and reservation stations that are now commonplace on many general purpose CPU architectures and that met (and meets) a real need. On 1/22/21 5:20 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 4:01 PM Yasha Karant <mailto:ykar

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