Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons

2009-12-30 Thread Mr. Worf
That is how mediocrity is created. I think that hollywood goes through fads. CGI right now is a fad, just as car chases was once the big thing. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > I agree about Van Helsing. But I always find myself wondering: do we *have* > to produce CGI/

[scifinoir2] What do you think were the best films of 2009?

2009-12-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
What do you think were the best films of 2009?

Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons

2009-12-30 Thread Omari Confer
Why pay for a great story when CGI is less expensive? (why is Uwe Boll still working) Short termflash bulbs and scarlet liquid is the thing.. Long termcontent is king.. You make your reputation in the long term but you make the money in the short term. For every Merchant Ivory film...

Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons

2009-12-30 Thread Keith Johnson
I agree about Van Helsing. But I always find myself wondering: do we *have* to produce CGI/FX/action heavy films over sturdy writing and acting to get younger people to watch? I guess that tail-wagging-dog question is brought up with every new generation, but I often feel that if we give people

Re: [scifinoir2] Internet on TV might come right out of a box

2009-12-30 Thread Keith Johnson
Reading this angered me. I've been asking cable company reps for twenty-plus years why I can't purchase a box at the local electronics store, the same way I can purchase a phone. I've had them seriously try to give me scientific reasons as to why it's not possible to create boxes that can be sol

[scifinoir2] Internet on TV might come right out of a box

2009-12-30 Thread Kelwyn
www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-tc-biz-tech-nettv-1205-1227-dec30,0,5899320.story chicagotribune.com Internet on TV might come right out of a box By David Lazarus Tribune Newspapers December 30, 2009 Comcast Corp. Chief Executive Brian Roberts was gushing recently about his company's im

Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons

2009-12-30 Thread Omari Confer
Van Helsing, along with all genre work these days is designed for teens that have never seen a classic horror movie. Never seen Lon chaney or Frankenstein fight Dracula... In this post Matrix age, things have to be visually appealing before anything else..forget that we just watched Dances wit

Re: [scifinoir2] Roll Call: What are you reading?

2009-12-30 Thread Justin Mohareb
Shutter Island. An acquaintance said I should give it a try before I see the film. Justin On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > I am reading "Queen City Jazz" by Kathleen Ann Goonan and thoroughly enjoying > her post apocalyptic novel. It is eerily precognitive about the incip

[scifinoir2] Re: Roll Call: What are you reading?

2009-12-30 Thread Kelwyn
First time I heard of Mr. Bucknell, I looked him up thinking he was black. Was somewhat surprised by the photo of the white guy who looked back at me from his website - nice head of wavy, unprocessed auburn hair. But, if Mariah Carey is black, I guess Tobias is "black," too. Unlike Nelson Geo

Re: [scifinoir2] The End Of Free TV

2009-12-30 Thread Mr. Worf
What will more than likely happen is what happened to radio. The audience will shift over to cable or the net. They will respond by coming up with a pay service that focuses on local news but it won't be enough. So by 2015 we will be still wondering why comcast is still in business. On Wed, Dec 30

[scifinoir2] NEW IMARO NOVEL: #4 IS OUT NOW!

2009-12-30 Thread Amy Harlib
ahar...@earthlink.net Dear Charles, YAY! JOY! I have already placed my order with Lulu. The cover is splendid - just gorgeous. Imaro seems quite evenly matched in that scene and the lightning bolts add a nice supernatural touch, suggests lots of fantastic thrills within. The Cimmerian web

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Byronic hero?

2009-12-30 Thread Omari Confer
Sounds like any anti-hero. Punisher Man with No Name Wolverine etc c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > "Mad, bad and dangerous to know?" That exactly how Roger Zelazny described > Corwin of Amber. > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely p

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Roll Call: What are you reading?

2009-12-30 Thread Omari Confer
How do you folks find the budget to buy all these books!!! c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:54 PM, B Smith wrote: > > > Tobias is biracial. His father was from Grenada and his mother was English. > So no culture vulturing going on with him. > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Kelwyn" > wr

Re: [scifinoir2] The End Of Free TV

2009-12-30 Thread Omari Confer
The battle with the internet begins On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > There's a lot of stuff that the industry did that increased their costs > over the years. For example, the switch to robotic cameras because they > thought it was cheaper than hiring camera people. (on

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for "Survivors"

2009-12-30 Thread Omari Confer
I heard Jerhico was garbage.. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM, B Smith wrote: > > > If you like the post-apocalyptic genre it will definitely scratch that > itch. Patterson Joseph has a great role and it's always a pleasure to watch > Freema do her thing. > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.

[scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for "Survivors"

2009-12-30 Thread B Smith
If you like the post-apocalyptic genre it will definitely scratch that itch. Patterson Joseph has a great role and it's always a pleasure to watch Freema do her thing. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer wrote: > > Shows that Lost is not so original. > > Is it really worth chec

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for "Survivors"

2009-12-30 Thread Omari Confer
Shows that Lost is not so original. Is it really worth checking out? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:31 AM, B Smith wrote: > > > Well it's a remake of a series that predates Lost. Does that help? LOL > > It feels nothing like Lost. Very different characters and very different > motivations for

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New HP Webcam Can’t See Black People?

2009-12-30 Thread Mr. Worf
Just a load of crap... On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Martin wrote: > > > HP's studied response to this. > > http://dvice.com/archives/2009/12/hp-responds-to.php > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > > > Wow... > > > > > http://elev8.com/better-living/products/sheeri-mi

Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Adrianne Brennan
Awww...thanks, Martin! I resisted doing the group email spam thing about it here. One's a vampire novel and the other's a m/m scifi/paranormal. :) ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html

[scifinoir2] Re: New HP Webcam Can’t See Black People?

2009-12-30 Thread Martin
HP's studied response to this. http://dvice.com/archives/2009/12/hp-responds-to.php --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > Wow... > > http://elev8.com/better-living/products/sheeri-mitchell/new-hp-webcam-ca\ nt-see-black-pe

Re: [scifinoir2] The End Of Free TV

2009-12-30 Thread Mr. Worf
There's a lot of stuff that the industry did that increased their costs over the years. For example, the switch to robotic cameras because they thought it was cheaper than hiring camera people. (only in the short term) Some shows have gigantic budgets that don't pay back. For example, you can shoo

Re: [scifinoir2] The End Of Free TV

2009-12-30 Thread Mr. Worf
I figured that this was coming a while back. This is another side effect of deregulation. It is also the networks own fault for selling off affiliates to make quick cash way back when. Couple that with the broken business model and you can see a string of problems that were never resolved adding up

[scifinoir2] Re: Roll Call: What are you reading?

2009-12-30 Thread B Smith
Tobias is biracial. His father was from Grenada and his mother was English. So no culture vulturing going on with him. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn" wrote: > > Thanks for the heads-up on "Sly Mongoose." I will add it to my queue. I > thoroughly enjoyed "Ragamuffin." Wish a blac

RE: [scifinoir2] The End Of Free TV

2009-12-30 Thread Martin Baxter
" 'Good programing is expensive,' Rupert Murdoch, whose News Corp. owns Fox, told a shareholder meeting this fall." Rupert, an old adage comes to mind. "You gotta spend money to make money." "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?"

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Byronic hero?

2009-12-30 Thread Martin Baxter
"Mad, bad and dangerous to know?" That exactly how Roger Zelazny described Corwin of Amber. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Fr

RE: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, I hear you on the albums and the radio. Had many a night with those sights and sounds. The telephone thing, however... I have very thin fingers. Can't tell you how many times I hooked an index finger into the dial while dialing. Dislocations hurt. "If all the world's a stage and all the

RE: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Martin Baxter
I hear you, Jeff. That was my entire high school experience. The only days I went there without a book in my back pocket were my first and last ones. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com

RE: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Martin Baxter
Congrats on your releases, Adrianne! "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13

[scifinoir2] Re: Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Kelwyn
Everybody I know who has one loves their Kindle. Friend of mine even gets his newspapers on his Kindle (and brags about saving forests he can't see for the trees he's also proud of saving). I can't justify the cost yet. Wait. I got a hundred dollar bill for Christmas. That reduces the cost

[scifinoir2] Re: Roll Call: What are you reading?

2009-12-30 Thread Kelwyn
Thanks for the heads-up on "Sly Mongoose." I will add it to my queue. I thoroughly enjoyed "Ragamuffin." Wish a black person had written it (one prolly did but, unlike Mr. Buckell, could not get it published) but beggars like me ("were born to run!" no, wait, uh...) can't be choosers. ~rave!

Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread George Arterberry
I love my Kindle. From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 10:10:40 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books   Speaking of the Kindle, I was watching a documentary called 'the Oprah effect'

Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Adrianne Brennan
I just had two print releases. One of them arrived on my doorstep a few weeks ago, and I wholeheartedly confess that the first thing I did was jump up and down and dance in my living room with it in my hands, thoroughly scaring the crap out of my kitties. XD So yeah, I can understand that. It's a

Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Jeff Carter
I don't think I could ever lose the comfort of having a bent and beaten paperback nestled in my back pocket. Jeff On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > I think that's inevitable for industrialized, high-tech parts of the world. > I know an ever-increasing number of adults

Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Keith Johnson
I can respect that. I like the concept too, but nothing beats that parchment! But then, hell, I still sometimes miss the comforting slow spin of the telephone wheel back when we had to dial numbers on a rotary phone! Or the more real-seeming scratch-scratch of albums on the turntable, the imperf

[scifinoir2] Re: Byronic hero?

2009-12-30 Thread B Smith
Capt. Mal Reynolds from Firefly/Serenity Pepper from Tobias Buckell's Ragamuffin series Uther Doul from China Mieville's The Scar Han Solo Riddick Captain Jack Sparrow --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > Blade? > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mail

[scifinoir2] Re: Roll Call: What are you reading?

2009-12-30 Thread B Smith
I'm reading the third book in Tobias Buckell's Ragamuffin series, Sly Mongoose. The series is a great space opera with the main characters hailing from colonies settled by Caribbean folk and Aztecs http://www.amazon.com/Sly-Mongoose-Tobias-S-Buckell/dp/0765319209

[scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for "Survivors"

2009-12-30 Thread B Smith
Well it's a remake of a series that predates Lost. Does that help? LOL It feels nothing like Lost. Very different characters and very different motivations for their actions. With 99% of the world dead by the end of episode one it gets to the meat of the series pretty quickly. If I'd compare

RE: [scifinoir2] Byronic hero?

2009-12-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Blade? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:38 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Byronic hero? The Byronic hero is an idealized but flawed character

[scifinoir2] The End Of Free TV

2009-12-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Broadcasters' Woes Could Lead To The End Of Free TV - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/free-tv-in-trouble_n_405761.html NEW YORK - For more than 60 years, TV stations have broadcast news, sports and entertainment for free and made their money by showing commercials. That might not work muc

[scifinoir2] Byronic hero?

2009-12-30 Thread Mr. Worf
The *Byronic hero* is an idealized but flawed characterexemplified in the life and writings of Lord Byron , characterized by his ex-lover Lady Caroline Lamb

Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books

2009-12-30 Thread Adrianne Brennan
As an ebook author, I'm not shocked, but I am happy to see it. :) I encourage publishing in both mediums for accessibility, but I prefer ebooks these days. Running out of shelves and places to put more shelves! ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of