Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

Now, I've been referred to as an Oreo for most of my conscious life, so I take umbrage at being classed in with Clarence and Condi. Otherwise, I won't stop you. You can't jump on a bandwagon just because the driver is smeone you like the looks of. Said driver could eb the worst on record, a drun

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

No offense on that "Oreo" thing. From every thing I've read, you're proud to be black and support black people. My definition is reserved for others like the two I mentioned. I've been called Oreo too and it's never applied. Unlike Rice and Thomas, I'm assuming you don't pretend to be white, lo

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

crabs in a barrel... _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:33 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Now, I've been referred to as an O

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton No offense on that "Oreo" thing. From every thing I've read, you're proud to be black and support black people. My definition is reserved for others like the two I mentioned. I've been called Oreo too and it's never applie

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

Interesting. I worked with Senator Jackson in the late 1990s on pressuring BJU to overturn their stupid ban on interracial relationships. I used to get some "interesting" emails and voicemails back then. http://jameslandrith.org/content/view/50/35/ http://jameslandrith.org/content/view/47

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

nal Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:28 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton No offense on that "Oreo" thing. Fro

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Now, I've been referred to as an Oreo for most of my conscious life, so I take umbrage at being classed in with Clarence and Condi. Otherwise, I won't stop you. You can't jump on a bandwagon just b

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None taken, Keith. If anything, I need to mind my posts better. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense on that "Oreo" thing. From every thing I've read, you're proud to be black and support black people. My definition is reserved for others like the two I mentioned. I've been called Oreo too and

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

Sounds like a lot of us have been called Oreo... If you ask me, its been for the wrong reasons like liking scifi, different music, science, cultures, etc, and not for what really matters. Tracey Martin wrote: > > None taken, Keith. If anything, I need to mind my posts better. > > [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

True. Growing up I was called "oreo", "white boy", and "brains". That last was actually a compliment. I have Black friends now who call me a nerd, but it pisses me off. Apparently I'm the only Black in America who feels that way, as all the rest tell me that "nerd" is not derogatory, but rather,

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

"Acting white", being a "race traitor", or "oreo"--the concepts are among the most difficult to define. For example, I've used standard English all my life, not so much Black street slang. So I "talked white" according to my peers back then. I have a nasal voice, so I sound like a "honky" to so

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

...Or we choose to embrace our intelligence rather than 'dumb down'... "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds like a lot of us have been called Oreo... If you ask me, its been for the wrong reasons like liking scifi, different music, science,

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

ilto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton No offense on that "Oreo" thing. From every thing I'

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Amen! _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Nope. But we had to see this coming when Vanilla Ice

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

__ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Sounds like a lot of us have b

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

Total irony, my friend! TOTAL!!! Screw them, anyway! -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:58 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black

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ry 15, 2007 7:51 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton True. Growing up I was called "oreo", "white boy", and "brains". That last was actually a compliment. I have Black friends now who call me a nerd

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Keith; Most of the time I hear that term, it's from ignorant goons who know nothing about themselves, let alone having never left the boundaries of their own neighborhood...And ANY idiot who accuses someone of 'acting white' or black or anything else on that level has a self-esteem problem the

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

My wife (originally from the Bronx) put up with that garbage for years growing up in South Carolina. Apparently, getting good grades, participating in extracurriculars, being able to communicate in a professional manner and wanting more out of life than your peers was a crime. She went on to be o

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Top of the list. I can't tell you all the times I was ridiculed for having a brain. Tracey Astromancer wrote: > > ...Or we choose to embrace our intelligence rather than 'dumb down'... > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

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I find it amazing that, regardless of creed or color, the 'dumb lug' is worshipped in American culture...and in our culture being smart seems to be discouraged... "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Top of the list. I can't tell you all the times

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ubject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton I find it amazing that, regardless of creed or color, the 'dumb lug' is worshipped in American culture...and in our culture being smart seems to be discouraged... "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.

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cer Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:35 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton I find it amazing that, regardless of creed or color, the 'dumb lug' is worshipped in American culture...and in our culture being smar

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

07 12:35 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton I find it amazing that, regardless of creed or color, the 'dumb lug' is worshipped in American culture...and in our culture being smart seems to be discouraged... &qu

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Me too, Tracey. That's when I realized that it was time for me to find a new class of friends... Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I find it amazing that, regardless of creed or color, the 'dumb lug' is worshipped in American culture...and in our culture being smart seems to be di

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

I've caught more than my share of grief for not liking rap/hip-hop. "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Top of the list. I can't tell you all the times I was ridiculed for having a brain. Tracey Astromancer wrote: > > ...Or we choose to embrace o

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

I undersand what you're saying, James. When I was growing up in Ole Virginny (Danville, the Last Capital of the Confederacy, to be exact), the only decent guidance I ever got from any guidance counselor was, "When you graduate, leave town as fast as possible. If you're here more than two weeks a

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

One of the first things I notices about the people on scifinoir, is that most of us were "different", did not fit, brainy and a bad way, maybe considered "eccentric" I've often wished that we had the Internet when I was young, so that I would not have felt so "alien-like" as I walked my path.

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Sounds like a lot of us have been called Oreo

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:58 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton "Acting white", being a "race traitor", or "oreo"--the concepts are among the most difficult to define. For exampl

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

If we'd had this degree of networking back then, Tracey, I'd wager that we'd be the Gateses and Ellisons of this world. "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One of the first things I notices about the people on scifinoir, is that most of us were "d

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Aint it, though? And don't change. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Acting white", being a "race traitor", or "oreo"--the concepts are among the most difficult to define. For example, I've used standard English all my life, not so much Black street slang. So I "talked white" according to my peers bac

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In Ole Virginny, I was branded a "technonerd", because I always carried a calculator, geeked out when meeting people who had computers or programmable calcs, read and wrote sci-fi voraciously. I still hold that as a badge of honor. But I've also been told that I need help... [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

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#x27;...LOLLOL! _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Sorry, I was kidding myself. Truth be told, I kinda puff up

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e 'sweet', huh? YIKES!!! I mean, some of my best friends are 'sweet'...LOLLOL! _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Sou

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

b lugs. Big TVs, beer, couches, prostitutes, big cars... Burp! _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:35 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

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Understand this; most people who control, produce or create successful services or products on this planet have been called 'eccentric' or different or brainy...In short, eccentric RULE...unfortunately, the 'dumb lugs' get most of the credit for it... "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Min

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ir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Sorry, I was kidding myself. Truth be told, I kinda puff up with pride when anyone c

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sure he goes to school. He's promised I can come to his graduation this June... You never know... _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:03 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton I undersand what you're saying, James. When I was growing up in Ole Virginny (Danville, the Last Capital of the Confederacy, to be exact), the only decent guidance I ever got from any guidance counselo

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:09 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton One of the first things I notices about the people on scifinoir, is that most

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton In Ole Virginny, I was branded a "technonerd", because I always carried a calculator, geeked out when meeting people who had computers or programmable calcs, read and wrote sci-fi voraciously. I still hold that as a badge of

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EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:58 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton WHOOPS! You'd think that a guy with as many gay friends as I have would've caught that one...

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ECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:19 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton I was in the same league as you, Reece, and everyone knew I was smart. I got past the beatings that other technonerds (*prou

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How true! I bet you had many an up-the-sleeve laugh back then! That's great!!! _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:19 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black lead

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noir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Probably where I got this offbeat thing people call a sense of humor. One of my best HS moments was my junior year, when about ten AP students and I petitioned the county we lived in for a Latin class. We go

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

ssage From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:59:03 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Probably where I got this offbeat thing people call a sense of humor. One of my best HS moments wa

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton

5:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Probably where I got this offbeat thing people call a sense of humor. One of my best HS moments was my junior year, when about ten AP students and I petitioned the county we lived in for a