Toby Rider wrote:
Which is too bad, because improvisation is a cool
thing. All of those
blues solos are built around improvisation on altered
pentatonic scales..
If they're altered, are they still pentatonic?
Regards,
Ted
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Jim Dawson wrote:
Alan MacDonald.. in fact wrote a thesis on the subject of pibroch and
his conclusion was that modern pibroch,
to which you refer was actually a fabrication of what real pibroch was.
And is not 'real pibroch' also a fabrication?!? Or did it arrive with the rest
of the
Ted Hastings wrote:
Toby Rider wrote:
Which is too bad, because improvisation is a cool
thing. All of those
blues solos are built around improvisation on altered
pentatonic scales..
If they're altered, are they still pentatonic?
Well, that's a good question.. They call them blues scales
Whenever modes come up, it seems to polarise folk on the list. You need to
know about modes v why is it worth knowing about this.
I had an experience recently with a tune which we were playing for a
particular purpose. It was Morrison's (jig) which is Irish in origin but
much loved, with a
Dan Mozell wrote:
I may have missed some of this thread. The bass player wasn't really
wrong. Standard notation practice (not folk musicians notation
practice) would be to write an E Dorian tune with the E minor/G major
key signature of one sharp (F#) and then sharp the individual Cs in
the
A double bass player looked at the sheet music and played along with
the
tune. He then complained that it was in two sharps but was in E minor.
My
explanation that it was a dorian not an aeolian tune ( I do hope I got
this bit right) was greeted with some derision. OK, if modes do not
mean
Nigel Gatherer wrote:
Jim Dawson, I believe, is talking about improvisation which is a whole
different colour of horse, and not a subject which immediately comes to
mind in a discussion of Scottish music. I remember in my green youth
getting very excited about my first exposure to pibroch; I
Nigel Gatherer wrote:
Jim Dawson, I believe, is talking about improvisation which is a whole
different colour of horse, and not a subject which immediately comes to
mind in a discussion of Scottish music. I remember in my green youth
getting very excited about my first exposure to pibroch; I
Jim Dawson wrote:
This might be true amongst...dare I say it...the more senior traditional
musicians amongst us,
but in my humble opinion that is changing rapidly where younger musicians
are concerned.
Take Shooglenifty, Peatbog Fairies, Afro Celt Sound System, Sandy
Brechin...for example,
I had an experience recently with a tune which we were playing for a
particular purpose. It was Morrison's (jig) which is Irish in origin
but much loved, with a life of its own in Scotland.
A double bass player looked at the sheet music and played along with
the tune. He then complained that
Toby Rider wrote:
That stuff is rubbish,
just like top 40 music of every other genre nowadays.. Sad..
Matt Seattle wrote:
Craig David's pretty good, no?
Exactly.I find it sad and narrow minded that people can rubbish music
like this. In fact I do not see any real information regarding
Jim Dawson wrote:
In fact I do not see any real information regarding modes coming
out in this discussion, plenty of show boating about how much
music history they know and nothing about how to use modes in
real life music.
I presume you mean me.
I'd already put a fair bit of such
Jack Campin wrote:
I presume you mean me.
No Jack I was not referring to you, I was simply venting at people being
dismissive of certain genres of music without having anything of worth to
add to the discussion or even thinking about the reality that some people do
like such music (and I am not
Jack Campin wrote:
I presume you mean me.
No Jack I was not referring to you, I was simply venting at people
being dismissive of certain genres of music without having anything
of worth to add to the discussion or even thinking about the reality
that some people do like such music (and I am
Perhaps it's got a bit out of hand, very hot weather here in the Borders at
the moment at any rate.
Most genres have their 'quality' artistes, and in mentioning Craig David I was
referring to top 40 generally, not of course 'country' music.
As for understanding modes (etc. etc.) I don't think it
Matt Seattle wrote:
..
Rambling further.. PW mentions Owsald. There's been a bit of a renaissance and
reappraisal of JO recently, with some CDs on the 'serious' end of the market.
What I've heard sounds pleasant but lightweight to me, but might not be the
best stuff(?). Oswald was
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