My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
OK guys, James 2.2.0 is released. That's it from me for probably the next week or so. I have something next week that I really must focus on. After that, I'll get onto the branch merger. Conjectured Roadmap: Release James X (2.3, 3.0, don't care) based upon the merged code with contemporar

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-17 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: OK guys, James 2.2.0 is released. That's it from me for probably the next week or so. I have something next week that I really must focus on. After that, I'll get onto the branch merger. Conjectured Roadmap: Release James X (2.3, 3.0, don't care) based upon the merged

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-17 Thread Soren Hilmer
On Friday 18 June 2004 03:47, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > OK guys, James 2.2.0 is released. That's it from me for probably the next > week or so. I have something next week that I really must focus on. After > that, I'll get onto the branch merger. > > Conjectured Roadmap: > > Release James X (2.

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Danny Angus
+1 to everyone else's plans. But.. Noel, what do you have in mind vis-a-vis Avalon? Are we to consider releasing James with Merlin instead of Phoenix for instance..? My own plan.. and in this order.. a) Revisit the Mailet API experimental changes, particularly those which haven't found favo

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Are we to consider releasing James with Merlin instead > of Phoenix for instance..? I'm considering what we've been considering for over a year: migrating from the old version of Phoenix to the "current" version of Phoenix in our CVS, and the current Avalon components. Phoenix is a proven and s

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Serge Knystautas
Noel J. Bergman wrote: We might want to record our collective ideas on the wiki, where we already have others: http://wiki.apache.org/james/JamesV3. Looks like we've already done some, and have new ideas on others. Serge would probably suggest, and he's right, that we start to use JIRA to layout

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Mark Livingstone
Hi Noel, Where do plans for IMAP getting a permanent store fit in the scheme of plans? I went to the mentioned WIKI site but no real mention. After Maths exam on Tuesday, I will have a month or so to start testing ;-D Also, I hope to play with IBM's Cloudscape for another project, does James sup

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Where do plans for IMAP getting a permanent store fit in the scheme of > plans? IMAP needs some champions to work on it. Many have offered, few if any have actually contributed. In terms of a persistent store, Jason Webb and I had worked out a scheme using the current store technology and a na

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread mike
Would you not recommend HSQLDB? At 09:19 PM 6/18/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Where do plans for IMAP getting a permanent store fit in the scheme of > plans? IMAP needs some champions to work on it. Many have offered, few if any have actually contributed. In terms of a persistent store, Jason W

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Would you not recommend HSQLDB? People can try whatever databases they want. But IIRC, the HSQLDB license is not compatible with distribution by James. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additio

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Serge Knystautas
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Would you not recommend HSQLDB? People can try whatever databases they want. But IIRC, the HSQLDB license is not compatible with distribution by James. Does this really matter to anyone but the ASF (or anyone who would redistribute James)? -- Serge Knystautas Lokitech >>>

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
>>>Would you not recommend HSQLDB? >> People can try whatever databases they want. But IIRC, the HSQLDB license >> is not compatible with distribution by James. > Does this really matter to anyone but the ASF (or anyone who would > redistribute James)? Well, as I said, people can try whatever dat

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-18 Thread Serge Knystautas
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Well, as I said, people can try whatever databases they want. But I don't see the point of using it if you can't distribute it. Seems to me that the primary reason for it is convenience/turnkey distribution. The ASF may not feel it is open source enough, but that's our req

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-19 Thread mike
Thanks, Noel. Could you give a short statement of why that is? If so, thanks in advance. Michael At 10:20 PM 6/18/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Would you not recommend HSQLDB? People can try whatever databases they want. But IIRC, the HSQLDB license is not compatible with distribution by Jam

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-19 Thread mike
I am somewhat unlearned in the licensing end, and need to be otherwise. I have read the HSQLDB license and it seems to be unexceptional to me. I have a law degree, and this seems to be a clear open source agreement to me. Can you guys educate me on the issues here? The licenses are very sim

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-19 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Nevermind. It bugged me all morning trying to remember why someone had raised a licensing issue, and I finally recalled the actual issue, which has nothing to do with James. The Thomas Mueller advertising clause prevents HSQLDB from being proposed for Incubation as an ASF project. It has no effe

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-21 Thread Danny Angus
> My take on the container is that we it to just be there, support our code, > be free of memory leaks and crashes, and otherwise stay out of our way. Agreed. And i don't normally pay it much attention, but with people talking about Merlin I wondered what your idea was. > I agree, but would

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Brewin
Danny Angus wrote: > > My take on the container is that we it to just be there, support our > code, > > be free of memory leaks and crashes, and otherwise stay out > of our way. > > Agreed. And i don't normally pay it much attention, but with > people talking > about Merlin I wondered what your ide

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-21 Thread Stephen McConnell
Steve Brewin wrote: Danny Angus wrote: My take on the container is that we it to just be there, support our code, be free of memory leaks and crashes, and otherwise stay out of our way. Agreed. And i don't normally pay it much attention, but with people talking about Merlin I wondered what your ide

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Brewin
Stephen McConnell wrote: > > > Steve Brewin wrote: > > > As I understand it, different containers vary in their > depth of support for > > the Avalon lifecycle. As I remember from way back, we could > dynamically > > modify configurations if the container supported the requisite, but > > optional

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-21 Thread Stephen McConnell
Steve Brewin wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Steve Brewin wrote: As I understand it, different containers vary in their depth of support for the Avalon lifecycle. As I remember from way back, we could dynamically modify configurations if the container supported the requisite, but optional, lifecyc

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-22 Thread Albert Kwong
> >>Albert Kwong recently sent to me a patch detailing > a > >>MailetRegistry that > >>handles the registration of merlin based mailet > >>implementations (without > >>touching the mailet api). This is consistent with > the ideas I've > >>discussed with Alexis Agahi (Open IM) - basically > that th

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-23 Thread Jason Webb
Mine are simple... 0) Debug the mbox random access file class, update the mbox file handler and commit them both 1) Sort out user attributes. This is done for file user stores, but the db stuff needs to be re-worked as I'm not happy with it 2) Get the current mailbox system to support folders 3) G

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-23 Thread Steve Brewin
June 2004 08:57 > To: Stephen McConnell; James Developers List > Subject: Re: My Status, and James RoadMap > > > > >>Albert Kwong recently sent to me a patch detailing > > a > > >>MailetRegistry that > > >>handles the registration of merlin based mai

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-23 Thread Albert Kwong
--- Steve Brewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 內容: > One thing that immediately troubles me is how Mailet > pipelining would work. > Currently we have a Linear Processor that is > responsible for workflow; > invoking Mailets based on a mail's state. The avalon powered Mailet behave in exactly the same way a

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-24 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini
Here are my objectives: 1) Extend AttachmentFileNameIs to optionally recurse one level in zip attachments. 2) Code an AttachmentFileNameIsRegex matcher (also recursing zips). 3) Polish up and finally commit my Bayesian stuff. 4) Polish up and finally commit my antivirus matcher (perhaps having it

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-24 Thread Adam Fowler
nal Message- > From: Jason Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 June 2004 14:19 > To: 'James Developers List' > Subject: RE: My Status, and James RoadMap > > > Mine are simple... > > 0) Debug the mbox random access file class, update the mbox >

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Danny, > I spent this w/e reviewing the Mailet API Would you please annotate http://wiki.apache.org/james/JamesMailetV3? For that matter, would folks PLEASE update that or http://wiki.apache.org/james/JamesV3/Plans as necessary? I was looking at copying the suggestions from the mailing list, b

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Adam Fowler wrote: > I've been tinkering with the IMAP2 stuff with a view to implementing the > Maildir (Qmail stylee) method of mail storage. The main issue I had is > (apart from time) splitting off the store type from IMAP2. It's the > heirarchical type of Maildir with folders that will be an i

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> While I agree that we should be container neutral, it would be good to > accomodate the extended, but optional, Avalon lifecycles into a reworked > Mailet API so that it can be leveraged when available. I would be -1 regarding any contamination of the Mailet API with container specific interface

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-25 Thread Soren Hilmer
On Friday 25 June 2004 03:51, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > While I agree that we should be container neutral, it would be good to > > accomodate the extended, but optional, Avalon lifecycles into a reworked > > Mailet API so that it can be leveraged when available. > > I would be -1 regarding any con

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-25 Thread Danny Angus
> I don't know about processor. I think we ought to go back and look at a > processor being a mailet. Doesn't really change things, fwiw I'm agnostic about this now, and Serge for one has the opposite opinion to you. >My specific point about order is that there are things that we might add t

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-25 Thread Danny Angus
> I would be -1 regarding any contamination of the Mailet API with container > specific interfaces. Me too, what he said. And... I'll fake a new identity and vote twice if I have to ;-) > And if/when we do add things, I would adopt a > Listener interface approach, just as is done in the Serv

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > I don't know about processor. I think we ought to go back and look at a > > processor being a mailet. > Doesn't really change things, fwiw I'm agnostic about this now, and Serge > for one has the opposite opinion to you. I think it is worth considering, but I'm not sure on which side it will

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-28 Thread Danny Angus
> > adding processor to the API would allow different implementations to > > behave differently, so I can live with this the way it is. > What value do you see to adding Processor to the Mailet API? Forget the > question of whether Processor extends Mailet or not. What additional > interfac

RE: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-06-28 Thread Steve Brewin
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > While I agree that we should be container neutral, it would > be good to > > accomodate the extended, but optional, Avalon lifecycles > into a reworked > > Mailet API so that it can be leveraged when available. > > I would be -1 regarding any contamination of the Mailet A

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-08-03 Thread Mark Livingstone
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I hope to play with IBM's Cloudscape for another project The idea of Cloudscape is interesting, but it might be best to look at axion Maybe we can now revisit this idea ;-) http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1630856,00.asp MarkL -

Re: My Status, and James RoadMap

2004-08-04 Thread Steen Jansdal
Mark Livingstone wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I hope to play with IBM's Cloudscape for another project The idea of Cloudscape is interesting, but it might be best to look at axion Maybe we can now revisit this idea ;-) http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1630856,00.asp MarkL Yes, this is one o