Re: ShopTalk: Al Taylor

2005-10-30 Thread Burgess Howell
Al was maybe the best friend I never met.

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2005-10-30 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Tom   The biggest problem with quality with the OEM's are the shafts. First of all they are trying to make lots of money so the can pay the Pro Golfer the big playing fees, so they don't spend a lot on shafts or making them consistent. The shaft ranges A L, R, S and X all have a range of about

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
LOL, no no! I am aware of GolfSmith and what they have to offer.  For me that is usually tape, grips, and a few misc. items once in a while.  However it is fun to browse the stores when we are in the Dallas area. tflan wrote: Not "fired up" at all. Just trying to help.   TF

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
GolfSmith is where I buy my supplies, tape, grips, etc. . .   I have not as yet ordered from Tom W but that is in order as the gentleman that is teaching me club fitting was one of his students and chosen Club Maker of the Year once.  I feel like I am in good hands. Ed Reeder wrote: Wh

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2005-10-30 Thread Ed Reeder
TFlan, No problem.  You didn't mention Golfsmith or Wishon's quality.  This was in response to the other Tom's post. /Ed tflan wrote: I hope you're not thinking that I said Wishon's stuff was no good. I just mentioned a few dealers in the component biz, of which Mr Wishon is a

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2005-10-30 Thread tflan
I hope you're not thinking that I said Wishon's stuff was no good. I just mentioned a few dealers in the component biz, of which Mr Wishon is a part. Certainly his products are excellent, as are others in the marketplace. In point of fact, I didn't mention Golfsmith at all, come to think of

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2005-10-30 Thread tflan
Not "fired up" at all. Just trying to help.   TFlan   - Original Message - From: Tom and Donna To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Sorry Tom, did not mean to get you all

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2005-10-30 Thread Ed Reeder
Tom, Respectfully, I have to put Wishon in an entirely different level than any other company I'm aware of.  I wouldn't even mention Wishon and Golfsmith in the same sentence.  Golfsmith is first and foremost a club retailer, like Edwin Watts.  Wishon's goal is to get every golfer properly fitt

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
Sorry Tom, did not mean to get you all fired up and I do understand what you are saying.  I guess I put to much trust in the big name brand club makers to have a close tolerance on their manufacturing.  Time might change that trust yet are folks like Wishon or Golf Smith and different in their

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2005-10-30 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Andre I would like to comment on a couple of your statements, see below ***. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Andre Cantin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/30/2005 11:15:54 AM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > > Secondary to you Lloyd but primary to me or just as import

Re: ShopTalk: AJ Tech

2005-10-30 Thread Bryan White
Thanks --- tflan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the diameter? > > Use one of those cap style wine corks, the one's > that twist in. Or a > champagne cork shaped and trimmed to fit. Or look > for a bubble shaft plug. > Or glue a piece of plastic or wood cut to the proper > O.D. to a cork.

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2005-10-30 Thread tflan
Who can tell how a Cobra responds? There are so many heads on the market . . . clones, copies, knockoffs, etc., and heads designed by folks like Wishon, Maltby, et al, that it's nearly impossible to tell what head plays like a Cobra. Hell, you can buy several heads of the same design and the

Re: ShopTalk: AJ Tech

2005-10-30 Thread tflan
What's the diameter? Use one of those cap style wine corks, the one's that twist in. Or a champagne cork shaped and trimmed to fit. Or look for a bubble shaft plug. Or glue a piece of plastic or wood cut to the proper O.D. to a cork. Take the shaft to a local beer/wine supply shop or a chemist

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
Actually I am not looking for a clone but more for a head that responds like the Cobra at contact with the ball.  I have never had much luck hitting with the new larger club heads.  One of my Saturday foursome showed up with this one and was knocking the stuffing out of the ball ( not really, j

ShopTalk: AJ Tech

2005-10-30 Thread Bryan White
I have an AJ Tech 9460-SK gripless shaft. I need the end cap for it. Does anybody know where I can get one or use something for an end cap? Bryan __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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2005-10-30 Thread Andre Cantin
Tom. This morning you wrote 9 degrees So my guess is 10.5 is getting you a higher launch angle and the light shaft helps you swing the club faster. Also Cobra stock shafts are one flex softer than stated on the shaft (butt frequency) I've measured 3 of them (different ones) Regular is A and s

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom Barnett
I have purchased several King Power heads on e-bay.  They all came from the same source f1benz.  I have used 10.5, 12 and 14 degree.  The 10.5 is longer the 14 is the most consistently in the fairway and the 12 is a an excellent compromise.  He currently has on listed with about 2 and one

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
Afternoon Tom, The loft on this club is 10.5°.  I just finished hitting a dozen balls in my yard and eleven were at least 240 yrds long and within a fairway width of fifty yards.  The fairway needs to be tightened to no more than 30 yards before I am really happy with my drives.  Sometimes on o

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
Thanks Arnie!  I needed that bit of encouragement.  I have taken a lot of notes over the last couple of years reading all the postings, referrals to articles at various online addresses, and at the suggestion of many have stuck my neck out to try a lot of what I have studied.  I have never look

Re: ShopTalk: Al Taylor

2005-10-30 Thread Cub
I had to the pleasure of meeting Al and of serving on a committee with him.  He was every bit as fine a man as you will want to know.    Since I know you're still reading this... Cheers Admiral!   Cub - Original Message - From: TOM FLANAGAN To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com

Re: ShopTalk: Al Taylor

2005-10-30 Thread golf-equipment
Tom, I also will greatly miss him and "HIS CLEVELAND"   Boy will  I  EVER miss  him.  But Guess GOD had An opening in a heavenly foursome that he had to fill and AL  was his first choice    Remember   AL Keep your head down ann. I just might be seeing you  a ;lot sooner than you might think

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2005-10-30 Thread Arniesclubs
In a message dated 10/30/05 12:26:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am still learning the intricate details of making a perfect club.  A life long study! Then along comes another customer with different requirements! There are no pat answers, just a wealth of exp

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom Barnett
What loft are you hitting in the cobra.  I might have a suggestion to make.   Tomb     I've stopped 7,478 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at www.cloudmark.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

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2005-10-30 Thread tflan
There are a lot of Cobra knockoffs.Try a google search for clone golf heads. You'll be surprised at the large number of them.   You didn't mention which shaft was in the Cobra head. They offer a 55 gram shaft in their 460 cc head that a lot of guys like, especially seniors. And, Cobra offers

Re: ShopTalk: Al Taylor

2005-10-30 Thread TOM FLANAGAN
Ditto here;   We just returned from our trip to the East Coast so I haven't had an opportunity to respond to the loss of "The Admiral." He and I never met but we had a lot of somewhat spirited and funny back and forths. I'll miss that.   I add me condolenced to the family.   TFlan Jen Kuntz <[EMA

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
Thanks guys for the comments on the Cobra, I appreciate you taking the time to answer.  I can not disagree with either of you as I am still learning the intricate details of making a perfect club.  Well lets just say fitting a new club for someone.  There is no doubt that the club, regardless o

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2005-10-30 Thread Andre Cantin
Secondary to you Lloyd but primary to me or just as important. I have put the same shaft in different heads and ball flight was altered. To me (but I may be wrong) frequency is not an end in itself especially if you only measure butt frequency. Frequency is also affected by weight so at this poin

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2005-10-30 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Andre I do not disagree that ball flight is a function of the head ( secondary ) but I feel you get your best distance and an improvement in accuracy from using the proper shaft frequency. I see it every day, our test clubs do not have the same heads that we sell or are in the customers clubs but

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2005-10-30 Thread Andre Cantin
Lloyd. It was the head.This past summer I borrowed a Cobra 290 SS with a precision lite steel shaft. I hit it rather well much to my amazement.Then I reshafted it with a TT Ei 70. I reshafted it cause it wasn't mine. Different frequencies,different weight yet high launch and straight ball flight wi

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2005-10-30 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Was it the head or was it the shaft frequency that was a better fit for your swing? Find out what frequency that club was and build another club to the same frequency and see what happens. My guess is it was not the head. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Tom and Donna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > T

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2005-10-30 Thread Andre Cantin
My opinion on cobra heads and extra distance. Cobra heads play weaker than the stated loft. They are also for the most parts closed face and draw biased. The extra 25 yards came from you hitting the ball straighter instead of going right on you. Just my .02 A. - Original Message - From: "T

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
I recently had the pleasure of using a King Cobra 440 9° driver and found it very responsive. I got at least 25 yards greater distance with a lot less effort that allowed me to gain greater accuracy in direction. My question is, does anyone know of another driver head that responds as well as