Steve
I have done a lot of testing for Loomis and use the shafts a lot. It is a
good feeling shaft at about 72 grams. The balance point is higher than most so
making shorter drivers with more head weight no problem. I have most of my
college players and pros playing it. It produces a much
John
A static measurement will give proper eyeline which in turn will give you
the right length. Set up to the ball will give you the correct lie. Rolling the
ball after all this will give you the correct adjustments of the loft and lie.
Every golfer putts differently through impact so you
The fix I use for ferrule creep is the metal shaft clamp and fast setting
adhesive. I just put the adhesive in the space between ferrule and club head
and use the shaft clamp to seat the ferrule, wipe the excess adhesive and
clean with acetone. The whole procedure takes about 1 minute.
In a message dated 10/3/2009 9:34:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sloswingsp...@yahoo.com writes:
Have a customer in NJ (I'm in Ca) he wants to re shaft his clubs (15 of
them) in shafts I will provide?
David
I am located in Princeton about an hour outside of Philly. Mercer
County Golf
Karen
It is imperative that as the putter head increases in mass that the
balance point be raised or the added weight of the putter head will put excess
force on the wrist joint causing unwanted hinging to occur. The higher balance
point allows for a free flowing swing without putting
Actually we used a brass bar and force fit into the cavity, added about a
140 grams
Charlie
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Don
There is a small percentage of golfers who prefer a putter with toe
hang but that is not a common request.
If you are missing the putts left and it is not a set up problem but
a path problem you can either make the head lighter or increase the weight in
the butt,
David
Thanks for the reply. I am no longer with Heavy Putter as I have just
opened a golf shop snd teaching facility in Lawrence NJ, As I said being on
the
retail side and selling equipment the heavy putter is not for everyone. I
agree the putters should be heavier than standard
Tom
Having spent 3 1/2 years fitting the heavy putter on the 4 tours the
conclusion of you,Dave,and Tom are IMO correct. I personally have been using
the
Heavy Putter since the first prototype and recently tried using my old Ping
Anser backweighted with 125 grams to a specified balance
Ed
I had a chance to meet Jeff the kid in the video when I did a Nationwide
event in Oregon and tour their shop and meet their staff. Jeff is a very
knowledgeable and talented clubmaker. Scratch golf has some great wedges and
are
able to grind any shape, bounce and sole in multiple
Bob
Check it out here
_http://http://www.golfinstruments.com/golf/index.htm_
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Charlie B
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John
This is more common than you think. Without seeing the swing I would
guess that his motion is more up and down than around the spine thus creating
a
steeper angle of attack, also if he is hitting at the ball without
completing his rotation his hands are probably collapsing at
All things being equal the tip stiffness will remain the same but the club
will play more flexible than at standard length. It will also feel heavier at 1
inch approximately 5 swing weight points higher. The only way to get the
correct lie is dynamically and that means the whole set not just
John
I just pulled an NVS out of a Red Line today and it was .335.
Not sure if all have the same tip diameter. I will see if I can find out.
Charlie B
Dave
Oh how true.
Charlie
B
Mark
I will be in the Heavy Putter booth during the show ,
please stop by and say hello.
Charlie B
Harold
Try Billy Bob Golf.
Charlie B
John
Look at MR3 Golf Designs out of Texas. Arnie pointed me in
their direction and after talking to a few clubmakers and Roy the builder of the
machine I took the leap and have not looked back. The machine does woods, irons
and putters and sells for $895 the stand which is sturdy and well
Donald
If you are doing shaft analysis it is a great piece of
equipment as torsional stiffness plays a big part in the feel of a shaft.
Charlie B
Tom
They are mfg. by Fujikura, they are a little softer than the
Vista pro series as they are a proprietary design.
Charlie B
David
Getting a driver to 210 grams is easy just bring it to my shop
and we will get it done. We can also place the weight anywhere in the head you
would like. Set up the shaft for length and bring the head and we will hit your
target raw swing weight without any lead tape.
Charlie B
See John, Tom is not as
big a curmudgeon as every one makes him out to be.
Charlie B
Pat
They are tapered, I just reshafted three
sets.
Charlie B
David
It has the same belt setup as mine but with an .035 blade and
measuring table on the other end instead of a grinding wheel. I got mine from
Mitchel for around three hundred and works great. Adiitional blades from MSC for
2 dollars less than Mitchel.I am still getting used to the
Dave
I just set up a new shop and used Golf works for the
1x42 with the cutter and ferrule turning fixture. I believe it was about three
hundred and it works great. I used harbor frieght 8 inch grinders for the wheels
but you need to extend the shafts which I haven't done yet, the harbor
Bernie
The npb to cog alignment is a keeper especially for
wedges. I did it for a couple of pros without them knowing. Once they were set
up to proper lie and ground with heel relief they were very satisfied with the
outcome. I am building a set for my daughter and they will be set up in
Bernie
My experience with hybrids for my customers is with the lie
angles for comfort and solidness of the hit. Unfortunately unless you have a
bending machine that will allow adjustments of these clubs you are at a distinct
disadvantage. On the Champions Tour they have a specific fixture
Tom
What did you you do with the exta 2 inches of abraided tip section
out of the top of the hosel? how did you conceal it.
Charlie
Jeremy
The first evaluation I make is the talent level in front of me. Once I have a firm opinion I then open the discussion of what the player likes to with his wedges or more specifically what types of shots he generally plays with them. Then depending on the feedback and the slope I have
Dave
I am in complete agreement with 3 per club. Out of all the fittings I have recorded I would have to say that at least 65 to 70 per cent fit right in there and about ten to fifteen percent as Lloyd said are flatliners. When I get down to the wedges I let the head weight take the slope the
David
Thanks but the congrats goes to Steve Bocciere who is the owner and designer
of the putter. My involvement has been as fitter and working with the guys on the Champion and Nationwide tour gathering information and statistics. Steve has been a friend of mine and was kind enough to let me
After a good drive, it apparently gives these retired businees-oriented guys more satisfaction to say they only paid $40 for the driver than to get an extra 15 yards
Bernie
This was exactly what I learned playing with that women in New Mexico. I will be interested on your opinion of the
Jen
I have been using these hybrids for quite a few years since the original Cobra Bafflers. I think you will like the 335 tip better than the 370.
Charlie
Jeremy
It's called money. We got our first win on the Nationwide Tour a couple of weeks ago and are currently in second this week after a bunch of top tens and top five's last year. It will be in the retail stores the third week of May.
Charlie
Bernie
You and I have had good post over the last few years and the information you have provide me has been a tremendous help. The way I see it, The problem is that only those that attended the PGA show and came to the booth actually saw and touched the putter. All that did were impressed as
Jeremy
I have been a shoptalker for years and can say that the only way anyone on this forum could have seen or tried it is if you attended the PGA show in January. The putter will not be in stores until the end of May. If you look around the Internet you will see plenty of reviews from people
Tom
You are correct heavy heads have been around for a long time as well as backweighting but neither one has stayed in the mainstream as they are more of the oh yea I remember that so and so used to do that. I have just gotten back from the champions tour as I rep the Heavy Putter and the one
Sean
The short answer is yes, we spoke with many people at the show who wanted distribution to many parts of the world and we setting distribution now. When all is in place I will let you know.
Charlie
Tedd
They will be available in retail shops and greengrass shops as well as online at you favorite E-tailor. We are still in the process of setting up a distribution network and have a sales force out there opening accounts since the week before the PGA Show. Hopefully you will be able to get
Tedd
I understand your desire to try it and I am interested in remarks after trying the Heavy Putter. As you know I come from the fitting and clubmaking side and input from others in the trade always interests me as I feel there is always something to learn.
Charlie
Dan
If he co wrote it with Arnie it would be a best seller guaranteed.
Charlie
Brian
The $400 price tag is for First 800 beta putter heads that were used for the tour players and all the testing at different facilities across the country. Needless to say they are all serial numbered and come with a certificate of authenticity and at that price the company is not making any
Arnie
Thanks, but the reality of the golf industry is that parallel technology (I love that term) and that just interferes with establishing a brand and producing more product as the only one who wins in the end are the attorneys representing their clients. The money spent on legal fees could be
Arnie
How sad and true but it is a way of life in the golf industry.
Charlie
Alan
You are discovering that this concept truly works. Every golfer accelerates the putter differently and each golfer grips the putter with varying grip pressure. The bolts you are using are not heavy enough for a heavy head but probably work OK on the 2 ball at standard weight which is about
John
Thanks for the opportunity, and hopefully by the end of March you will have it.
Charlie
Tom
I have enjoyed your posts over the years and loved your point of view on various subjects and have agreed until this one, although it is with 2 years of testing under the belt. This is the first technology that I have seen in my 20 years that is not some rehashed concept. Heavy heads and
Jeremy
Weight down the shaft does nothing for the balance point but lower it which is the opposite of what needs to be done. Once you reach certain masses you will be infringing on Heavy Putter TM patents.
Charlie
Alan
It certainly dampens the vibrational frequency of putter head and ball collision giving an insert feel without the inconsistency of the velocity of the ball leaving the face.
Charlie
John
What you found out is that you were not properly balanced over the putt with the correct posture in your set up. Here is a tip for proper set up that if you get this down every time you will be in the correct balanced position for every shot not just putting, it requires a shaft or a club.
Brad
The shafts were designed to work properly with the heavier mass heads and do not have that feeling of flexing during the stroke on mid to long putts, by putting sand down the shaft you are adding total weight to the putter but you are doing nothing for release point to match your own which
Dave
As of right now the production models are also being milled from a solid billet of 303 stainless as well.
Charlie Badami
Brian
That $400 price tag is for the Beta putters that we used out on tour, the production models will be in line with other premium putters. Adding enough mass to effectively making a difference requires a good machinist and some expensive alloys to produce the proper masses. The head design
Tom
www.evolvegolf.com They are on all the tours.
Charlie Badami
RK and Dave
For years I have heard that swing weight makes no difference in club performance and this may be true, but it makes a tremendous difference in the way a club feels in the golfers hands. The one thing that I learned is that you can make the best club but until it is hit by a human and
Ed
Unfortunately when the testing was done in Texas I was at the Nationwide Tour Championship in Alabama. Steve Bocciere the designer and CEO of the company had two assistants and himself there and he was definitely impressed with the testing and data collected and displayed. Let me tell you
John
I will be at the show with a new putter technology we have been working on for the last two plus years. You can visit us at booth 4035 and check out the new Heavy Putter that has been used on the 3 PGA tours this past summer or check it out at Heavyputter.com.
Charlie Badami
Heavy
Jason
I just came from the Nationwide tour championship after spending the year on the Champions Tour and you are correct in your assumptions. Talking to the guys in the tour vans the average length is 44 1/2 inches at D2 and better. They inject the heads to reach these weights. The Champions
Jen
If all else fails check out the pocket scale from Golf Works. I have been using it daily for 2 years with no problems. I also had Dave T check it for accuracy and it was spot on. Tha cost is only $69.00.
Charlie B
Jen
Try the TX wood haft but use a flex to flex and half softer, I have gotten a great response from players of all skill levels on the performance of this shaft. The tip profile is on the stiff side by as much as the 1 to 1 1/2 flexes. Hope this helps.
Charlie B
David
Check out this page as it looks that the temeratures for filament winding epoxy, which by the way these shafts are I believe, are consistent with other mfg. in the 250 to 325 degree range.http://www.newportad.com/newport_woven.html One of my pros had one in a taylor 3 wood last year and
JB
Just heat and remove the original hosel, clean out the cavity of al epoxy, install new hosel and align to new specs. There is no need to drill.
Charlie B
Let the fun begin
Charlie
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Dave
That is exactly what JIm is talking about, It is a strap wrench, a tool that has been used in the plumbing industry for years. It is used when tightening plated finishes so you will not scratch the plated finishes of the plumbung finishes.
Charlie B
Doug
Parallel shafts can be any slope you choose depending on the tip trimming you employ. Taper tips are a different animal, the slope is basically preset by the manufacturer.
Charlie B
Harry
With steel shafts start with what you call npb at 12 as you will find flo around this area quite easily.
Charlie B
Bernie
Over the course of time I too have come to the conclusion that flo is not the end all but I still try to accomplish it whenever possible along with the method of alignment I use. I am going to try the NPB to CG alignment today on a couple of drivers that I am doing and will see if I get
Benie
Thanks for checking, like I said I will be trying today and will let you know the results.
Charlie B
Bernie
Do you always find flow in this alignment ?
Charlie B
David
So true, also the torque in relationship to relative stiffness or frequency is a fitting variable that is often overlooked when fitting a shaft to an individual. If we are talking frequency which only tells you half a story, a 250 cpm shaft @ 2 degrees of torque will feel and perform
Hey Al
Epoxy tinkles, in all the books I've read that term escapes me, maybe John will put in a glossary of Taylorism golf club assembly terms. I love it.
Charlie B
Pat
I have done plenty of them and they are relatively easy once you have the proper set up. You need a tool that can be purchased from the PCS or Maltby to go between the head and puller. I made mine out if PVC fittings. The ferrules can be purchased from Golfsmith or Maltby but I prefer to
Gentlemen
I am looking for a qualified fitter in Albaquerque NM to fit my brother-in law for specs so I can build him a set of clubs. Anyone interested may contact me privately
Thanks
Charlie B
Al
Thanks, Tom Wishon made the same recommendation and I will be contacting him.
One from you and one from Tom is good enough for me, beside he is a certified PCS member gives my brother in law no reason to hedge.
Charlie
RK
Thanks for the tip, as I said I lost all my files and bookmarks and you had quite few as the your tips and procedures have been a tremendous help over the years. I live in New Jersey and use McMaster-Carr but am always on the lookout for new sources. Hope you are feeling well.
Charlie B
Arnie
A few days ago you posted a couple of web sites for tools that were excellent resources, unfortunately my computer went to hell and I lost all of my files could you please re-post.
Thanks in advance
Charlie B
Never use clone heads or other inferior products.
Charlie B
Richard
No apology necessary. If someone out there is ripping off people with inferior product on your reputation as building a quality piece of equipment then you have every right IMO to rant if you so choose. Unfortunately it is the nature of the business we are in.
Charlie B
Richard
My prayers are with you.
Charlie B
HAPPY BIRTHDAY RK and may you have many more.
Charlie B
Pat
My first shaft choice to try for this experiment is the Fuji SIX. From reports on this forum and testing at Titliest fitting center the next will be the Graphite Design YS6 X but I am not sure if I will blind bore or shove this one all the way through.
Charlie B
Greg
I think Dave and Bernie are correct but you hit the nail on the head as their is a human on the end if that perfect spec club. I have a Canadian Tour player whom I build for and use him as my chief tester because of his consistent swing and his understanding of what I am trying to
Rk
Good luck on trip I hope all is well. I have followed your posts over the years and have learned quite a bit from you and appreciate your continued involvement on this forum. I happen to Know Dave T and he comes at clubmaking from a different perspective which is science and I feel for those
Rich
I obviously have the same type of customers as Pat and yourself. Dave introduced me to the Sk fiber line and the tour trac 100 gave me the same numbers as the vista pro 90 S and X in fairway woods on the distance caddy for ball velocity and carry. I like the way Fujikura protects its dealer
Royce
When a client consistently hits of the toe no matter what the lie angle is usually because they set up with their weight back on their heels. When this happens I bring in my teaching to address the problem before going any further and after a brief time it usually rectifies the problem. If
John
I haven't used any of the newer speeders yet but plan on bringing them in by mid June for testing, that is when my robot should be home for a while as he is out there trying to make it to next level. I know that the shaft mfg. are trying to get the launch angle higher with less spin, a good
John
My tour pro asked me to look into this from the PGA show but haven't had the time but will do in June when he gets here. Nicklaus used to do this years ago but don't know if he still does, 285 yd. average last week at Doral, not bad for a 63 year old who is not tournament tough yet. I am
Tflan
AMEN.
Charlie
Rich
You might not be me but you are the fuji man :)
Charlie
John
Check out accusport.com and click on vector. My friend Steve says they will be at the PCS show, unfortunately I will not be able to attend this year but from what he says this looks to be the monitor. It measures launch angle, ball spin, side spin as well as ball velocity for around 5
Alan
I have been using Apache shafts for along time and they are a mighty fine shaft. The best part is that they are consistent from shaft to shaft of the same designation and more importantly from shipment to shipment. The 65 N P have tour presence and I have had great results fitting high
Jim
I am shafting a set now and they are tapered.
Charlie B
Pat
as his growing personal defense to justify why he's never won (nor ever will) win a major
This statement I believe is truly justified with a caveat. I don't know him personally or his personality but I have watched and broken down his swing and when you compare him to the number one
Dave
I have the solution for your consistency problem, His name is Bob and that is something that is doable once this snow clears.
Charlie B
Arnie
You are refreshing on a snowy dreary day.
Charlie B
Dave
As you know I am experimenting with graphite shafts for Irons with Rich. The results were OK but not completely to my liking as I did not have enough time nor my shop set up to completely to test adequately.
I used the Infiniti AW 1 forged blades because I feel these are the most solid
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