on this mailing list
> through your constant self-promotion and I'm no longer tolerating it. We are
> here to help, but you've abused that.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 08/08/2009, at 6:12 PM, Owen Thomas <
>
> owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
Little ol' me signalled my intent to attend this event last Friday. Maybe I
can use it as an opportunity to inform others about Clique Space.
2009/8/7 Samuel Yeats
> Dear Startup Community,
>
>
>
> Making you aware of an event discussing the emerging Cloud Computing
> industry that is being run
Geoff.
2009/8/5 Geoff McQueen - Hiive Systems
> Moving discussion back to business from religion ;-)
>
I really don't believe that is a constructive comment.
Owen.
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Nic: I would not agree that this email list is not for debating such issues
as these. IP is a considerable part of a business, and so therefore is of
considerable interest to this group. I would vouch that there are other
users watching this email list who have (or have had) the same concerns as I
2009/8/5 silky
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Owen Thomas
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > But what if I have invested a long time, much experience, much
> deliberation,
> > and much energy to develop a concept to the point where it might
> otherwise
> > b
2009/8/5 Rob Manson
>
> Hi Owen,
Hi Rob.
> better to be quoted out of context than not at all 8)
>
>
> So my question to you is - what's wrong with plain old copyright and
> controlled distribution for your software?
Nothing at all. But, as you know, copyright only protects the expression o
2009/8/5 silky
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Owen Thomas
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > But don't you think you should compete not on the basis of who thought
> > > of it first, but who can do it better?
> >
> > Wouldn't that b
Hello Silky.
See my replies below.
2009/8/5 silky
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Owen Thomas
> wrote:
> > Hi Rob.
> >
> > 2009/8/5 Rob Manson
> > >
> > > software patents are a silly idea.
> >
> > Sorry, I couldn't help q
Hi Rob.
2009/8/5 Rob Manson
> software patents are a silly idea.
>
Sorry, I couldn't help quoting you out of context here, but this
consideration did cross my mind before I registered my patent.
This is my view: I only know that registering a patent on a system that may
primarily be realised t
Hello Michael.
Having done more or less what you proscribe below, I can cite an obstacle
off the top of my head about patent registration that I believe government
assistance in would be valued. There was an instant where I had an income
sufficient to register Clique Space (TM), my concept as a PC
I define this as spam. I'm unemployed and find it insulting to have someone
'offer' me something for $500.
2009/7/28 timparsons
>
> Hi Silicon Beach Folks,
>
> My name is Tim Parsons and amongst other things, I'm the 2009
> Coordinator for MEGA NSW, an Entrepreneurial Masterclass Program for
> d
hehe
2009/7/23 Elias Bizannes
>
> On July 27 2009, this Google Group turns one year's old. It started
> with no real goal other than bringing people together, and it has now
> morphed into a central collaboration point for the broader technology
> start-up scene, with over 600 people subscribed.
Hello.
Where is Grace Hotel?
I may be able to come along and tell (sell) you all my Clique Space concept
if you're interested. I guess it's in Sydney, so it'll be a bit of a hike
for me.
Let me know the time too.
Thanks,
Owen.
2009/7/23 David Banes
>
> Elias has kindly been enthusiastic a
Hi Alan. I've moved your question to a new thread. It's probably more
fitting.
I was thinking about about the abstract you put up for the talk. I am
just trying to grok it.
Grok? ... oh, understand. :)
It sounds like you are combining a rendezvous service (device
discovery service ie. you car w
Thanks Alan. This IKVM thing might have a conniption. I am beginning to fear
that my PoC is approaching the consistency of porridge. :)
2009/7/19 mmp1
>
> For answers to many questions , check out :
>
> http://startuppodcast.wordpress.com/, show #30 (latest this week).
>
> they basically answer
org.au/
>
> James
>
> On Jul 17, 5:53 pm, Owen Thomas wrote:
> > Oh... the venue is Wollongong Uni.
> >
> > 2009/7/17 Owen Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> > > The Decision Systems Lab invites you to its Cafe DSL seminar/meeting
> > > seri
Hello all.
I have done some pondering. While I feel that BizSpark might bo a good
avenue to for cash-strapped start-ups using Microsoft products to exploit, I
must reiterate that my concept is currently being proven on Java. Hence, I
do not currently see an advantage to signing up to BizSpark. How
)
*Speaker*: Owen Thomas
*Title*: The Representation of User Presence, and the Modelling,
Controlling, and Providing the Oppotunity to Capture an Audit Stream of
Collaboration Activity Over Multiple Heterogenous ICT Devices as "Cilques"
in a Highly Scalable, and Configurable Environment.
*Abstrac
Oh... the venue is Wollongong Uni.
2009/7/17 Owen Thomas
> The Decision Systems Lab invites you to its Cafe DSL seminar/meeting
> series, where the discussions are intense and
> the associated learning curve is steep. For the week beginning 20th of
> July:
>
> *Date*: Monday,
Yes Silky, I don't know how much I don't know C#. That is reason enough to
me for why I'm sticking with Java.
2009/7/17 silky
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Owen Thomas
> wrote:
> > Thanks every for your advice.
> >
> > It sounds as though Biz
Thanks every for your advice.
It sounds as though BizSpark is Microsoft's way of staying in the game then.
I have no money.
I might benefit from enrolment because my product is platform neutral, and I
may deploy it on top of a Microsoft product. However, I'm putting together a
PoC in Java, becaus
gt;
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Owen Thomas
> wrote:
>
>> This answers the question regarding IP:
>>
>> 9. Your Content.
>>
>> You may be able to submit content for use in connection with the service.
>> You understand that Microsoft does not contr
one put to
me a good reason for joining BizSpark based on participation in "Points
service" or "Bing Cashback"?
Owen.
2009/7/17 Owen Thomas
> This answers the question regarding IP:
>
> 9. Your Content.
>
> You may be able to submit content for use in connection
so, why would I
want to?
Owen.
2009/7/17 Owen Thomas
> If I join this BizSpark thing, will Microsoft automatically assert any
> rights to my IP?
>
> 2009/7/17 Owen Thomas
>
> What is "BizSpark"? Might this help me with Clique Space?
>>
>> 2009/7/
If I join this BizSpark thing, will Microsoft automatically assert any
rights to my IP?
2009/7/17 Owen Thomas
> What is "BizSpark"? Might this help me with Clique Space?
>
> 2009/7/17 Richard Buggy
>
> Do you still need to have a BizSpark partner sponsor you? The last
What is "BizSpark"? Might this help me with Clique Space?
2009/7/17 Richard Buggy
> Do you still need to have a BizSpark partner sponsor you? The last time I
> looked I found one partner that was charging $500 for a sponsorship package.
>
> Rich
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Aymer
2009/7/11 Elias Bizannes
> Australia makes films. But what makes LA the centre for movies? What makes
> Nashville a centre for music? London for banking? They've got a culture and
> an ecosystem that encourage and support those activities. Culture isn't
> something you can rationally understand u
I think that whenever I speak, I am doing so out of turn. I'm being a
party-pooper, raining on the parade that en-route to the Silicon Valley
Shangri-La.
But consider this: I have, what I think to be, a great concept, and I fear
that unless I go and do something completely opposite to my nature an
f my java files that says the following:
/*
* (C) Copyright Owen Thomas. All rights reserved.
* Express written permission must be obtained from the author in order to
* reproduce all or part of this source or compiled code in a manner
* specified in said permission.
*/
Might the ex
Hello all.
A question that I have been thinking of for some time that I might put up in
SiliconBeach for people people to consider.
People here should know by now that I am putting together a proof-of-concept
of an idea I have had for about 5 years. I am considering periodically
releasing version
Wollongong's my home.
Accenture (as an example of a large corporate employer) might yet still have
to become more accommodating the present and future individual aspirations
of their employees.
Owen.
2009/7/10 chieftech
>
> What about Wollongong? ;-)
>
> Join people like Geoff McQueen from H
The open storm water channels in Canberra make a leisurely roller-blade into
the city from Woden an almost practical solution. Anyway, Canberra has some
great cycleways. When I was there 12 years ago, I had a great time cycling
from Belconnen to Tuggeranong and back on weekends.
I don't want to li
I think james allen once said circumstances don't make a man, they reveal
> him.
>
> Beast of Luck Owen, keep ya head up mate!
>
>
> On 06/07/2009, at 1:50 AM, Owen Thomas wrote:
>
> Thanks Max for filling that in for me.
>
> My employer didn't cut me that sl
liability.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Owen Thomas
> wrote:
>
>I'd like to comment on something that Max Kraynov mentioned in a
> message on this subject.
>
>I don't think Max meant to convey what struck me in a first
> impression, but to quote
I'd like to comment on something that Max Kraynov mentioned in a message on
this subject.
I don't think Max meant to convey what struck me in a first impression, but
to quote Max out of context, I feel he exemplified what happens in most
circumstances (as it was in my circumstance), that the emplo
Hi Dennis
Having recently dealt with similar issues to these, I can offer some
non-professional advice from a similar vantage to you.
I have been told that in most circumstances, these provisions are put in to
your employment contract to cover the employer from situations where an
employee may cl
I'd like to see less "Soft Skills", but maybe I'm the only one.
2009/7/4 Warren Seen
>
> Amen Richard! I graduated nearly 10 years ago now and not once in that
> time have I felt compelled to join the ACS. Those who I do know from
> the local rank and file are either academics or state govt IT
>
Okay, you appear to be saying the latter.
2009/6/30 Owen Thomas
> So, have you won the money already, so you can't get it now but there'll be
> other opportunities? Or are you saying join now, and share in the winnings
> of an impending lotto draw if they arrive?
>
> 20
So, have you won the money already, so you can't get it now but there'll be
other opportunities? Or are you saying join now, and share in the winnings
of an impending lotto draw if they arrive?
2009/6/30 purc...@gmail.com
>
> Hey guys,
>
> First off, feel free to tell me off for sending out an e
Hi Richard.
2009/6/29 Richard Hayes
> The *ONLY* time telecommuting was ever *TAKEN SERIOUSLY* was during
> the 1979-80 oil crisis when California mandated that any company with
> over 500 staff has to get 5% to telecommute.
Untrue. The US government is taking the subject of telework very seri
Hi again all.
Because I lack any true opposition or advocacy of the issue of solar farms,
I'm not going to make myself look like I'm arguing any further in this
discussion. I'm going to stick my thread and argue the case for cultural
change around the subject of telework - an orthogonal debate to
Hi all.
What follows is, in part, a reply to Elias Bizannes's last message in the
thread about small regional towns as innovation centres using solar farming
as a possible revenue vector. I have moved it here to its own thread because
I would like to see a separate discussion evolve specifically a
Removed my signature on the last email.
:)
Owen.
2009/6/28 Owen Thomas
> Hello Elias.
>
> 2009/6/28 Elias Bizannes
>
>> There are two things that are core to Silicon Valley's success: natural
>> crapness and alumni networks.
>>
>> If it was pu
Hello Elias.
2009/6/28 Elias Bizannes
> There are two things that are core to Silicon Valley's success: natural
> crapness and alumni networks.
>
> If it was purely capital and talent, then there is no reason why New York
> couldn't beat the Valley. In fact, New York will never beat the valley
>
count/Password for you to be confident of the bonefides of
any log in attempt. Enikos might not even need to hold passwords!
Owen.
2009/6/24 Owen Thomas
> Hi Mike.
>
> 2009/6/23 Mike Nicholls
>
>> Hi Owen
>>
>> Have you had a look at MPEG21, whilst it is prima
Hi Alan.
Well, thanks anyway for letting me know. I've been playing with the idea for
almost five years. I kept the idea to myself for more than three years
because I thought it so obvious that someone else would have done something
with it; I think the idea is so obvious.
Maybe I should get a bl
Hi Mike.
2009/6/23 Mike Nicholls
> Hi Owen
>
> Have you had a look at MPEG21, whilst it is primarily focused on Multimedia
> it deals with many of the issues you have raised (not all but many)
Indeed! The Wiki page has possibly given the closest description to a
technological equivalent to Cli
all suitable devices the user has Connected to that Clique Space
to replay as many of the collaborations as possible. The clique Space may
inform the user why a particular collaboration cannot be replayed.
Does that sound like a good idea?
Owen.
2009/6/22 Owen Thomas
> Thanks Mark.
>
&g
Hi again Alan.
2009/6/23 mmp1
>
> Nice name. Even if this idea doesn't go where you think it should,
> its a good enough name you use it for many things "collaborative".
Yes. It appears to be good and original. I thought it had great promise as a
differentiating product name.
Some of it soun
not connected
through the same, or a compatible Media Profile.
Owen.
2009/6/23 Owen Thomas
> Jini? Hmmm I've heard of Jini, though thanks for the tip. I'll check
> what Jini is...
>
> 2009/6/23 mmp1
>
>
>> dude, i was just thinking - you not try
Jini? Hmmm I've heard of Jini, though thanks for the tip. I'll check
what Jini is...
2009/6/23 mmp1
>
> dude, i was just thinking - you not trying to re-invent jini ?
>
> http://www.jini.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
> Alan.
> >
>
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Hi Nathan.
2009/6/22 Nathan de Vries
>
> On 22/06/2009, at 7:04 PM, Owen Thomas wrote:
> > The answer, as you might be able to appreciate, is totally up to the
> > constraints of whatever device it is that you want to connect to
> > Clique Space.
>
> Unfortunate
>
> All one may have to do as a customer is plug [one's ICT devices] into [one
> or more selected] Clique Space[s nearby].
>
Actually, no one need remember anything more than their Clique Space account
identification and possibly even just one password.
Something that Clique Space can do is some
Hi Samuel
2009/6/22 Samuel Bishop
> Not to oversimplify... But what your describing sounds a like its too vague
> to gain traction... Like many of the big overarching meta frameworks that
> promise to deliver the moon & stars and yet no one implements them.
>
Not at all. I have patented a suffi
; Check out Live Mesh. www.mesh.com
>
>
>
> You maybe even be able to build your idea on top of mesh.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Burch
>
>
>
> *From:* silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> silicon-beach-austra...@googlegroups.com] *On Behal
; > available to users of Clique Space?
> >
> > Is it information about the user that they enter, or information about
> > the device's current state (e.g. currently playing item, battery
> > level, percentage done), or something else?
> >
> > Basically use ca
Hello people.
Thanks to Geoff McQueen for putting me on to this group. For better or
worse, I'm a member now. We'll see where this takes me.
A bit about me. It is 2009, and, but for the first 18 days of this
year, I am 35 years old. I have been interested in software
development for about 23 of
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