[silk] WARNING-RATHER LONG. Re: Lost and Found

2008-03-01 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: (though I forget exactly how). I was sufficiently annoyed that I decided to get the license the "right way", i.e. by going to the nearest RTO and I have had a very good experience with the RTO in Yeshwanthpur, Bangalore. When I first got my license way back in 1996 i

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread Charles Haynes
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is in saying that only one God is correct and that other Gods are > wrong. This is the fundamental basis of conversion and this is what hurts > Hindu sentiment. But what about saying that only one Ramayana is correct

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On Sunday 02 March 2008, ss wrote: > Merely because Hinduism is not about religion. It is about dharma. It is a > dharma or code of conduct for a people. Their beliefs about God are > peripheral to the issue. Really? So Hinduism begins and ends with Dharma, and other concepts like Yog, Moksh and

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Saturday 01 Mar 2008 10:44:16 pm Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: > I've often wondered: can a religion be monotheistic, anti-idolatory, > anti-superstition (at least in theory if not in general practice) and > caste-blind and still be considered Hinduism? Yes. Merely because Hinduism is not about re

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Sunday 02 Mar 2008 12:59:33 am divya manian wrote: > I think you > can be an atheist and still be a Hindu. I missed this sentence earlier. Dead right. Atheism, agonsticism and blind belief are all acceptable within Hinduism. That is why you will find many Hindus claiming to be atheist. You

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Sunday 02 Mar 2008 12:59:33 am divya manian wrote: > And I thought Indians worshipped Gandhi Gandhi was a very intelligent man. He utilized violence by not allowing it to occur. He was politically big enough to build up a great following among Indians. He utilized that following by holding ba

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Sunday 02 Mar 2008 12:48:53 am va wrote: > Well, I like to believe it survived because amongst all the the > different philosophies, dualism, non-dualism theories and what not it > has "non-violence" as a core part of the ideology. The survival of anything good depends on the existence of peopl

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On Sunday 02 March 2008, divya manian wrote: [snip] > As you said, I think Hinduism is everything and nothing. I think you > can be an atheist and still be a Hindu. And I really like the part of This is what I meant by the term being devoid of value. I consider there to be great benefit in followi

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread divya manian
On 3/2/08, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mean that if I feel insulted I will protest and say that I have been > insulted. > > That seems to be the norm for India and I am merely continuing a tradition. > Nothing wrong with that is there? What with all this talk of swinging fists > and nose

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread va
On 3/1/08, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But there may well be greater forces at work. If you look at the history of For me, politics and religion dont mix...the former is about control, greed for power and money whilst the latter (specifically Upanishad texts and the like) is about *not* hanker

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On Saturday 01 March 2008, ss wrote: [snip] > One more religion that is considered dharmic and non adversarial (towards > Hindus) and an offshoot of Hinduism is the Sikh religion. The Sikh > religion started off as a mild-mannered variant that took dharma from > Hinduism and a monotheistic theme

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Saturday 01 Mar 2008 10:18:22 pm Amit Varma wrote: > Sorry, I misunderstood then. There's nothing wrong in a merely verbal > protest. But most political protests these days that are based on being > offended aren't verbal, and many of them involve the law being used against > offenders, or at le

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread Amit Varma
> > > You mean you have a right to not be insulted by anyone? I > > No. Can't imagine how you thought that from what i wrote. > Er, also you mentioned your nose being in the way if someone insulted your religion. In the quote Udhay cited, ""Your right to swing your fist stops where my face begins"

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread Amit Varma
> > No. Can't imagine how you thought that from what i wrote. > > I mean that if I feel insulted I will protest and say that I have been > insulted. > > That seems to be the norm for India and I am merely continuing a > tradition. > Nothing wrong with that is there? What with all this talk of swing

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Saturday 01 Mar 2008 10:05:30 pm Amit Varma wrote: > You mean you have a right to not be insulted by anyone? I No. Can't imagine how you thought that from what i wrote. I mean that if I feel insulted I will protest and say that I have been insulted. That seems to be the norm for India and I

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Saturday 01 Mar 2008 9:42:34 pm Thaths wrote: > So, an eye for an eye? (Ignoring for the moment that in one case we > are talking about roman catholicism and in the other evangelical > christianity) Also I find it presumptuous on your part to assume how I > feel about the inquisition. And I cann

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread Amit Varma
> > But when the practise of her religion involves insulting my belief, and > saying > that my religion is wrong my nose suddenly gets in the way. > You mean you have a right to not be insulted by anyone? I think most of us would agree that such a right is a dubious one, but unfortunately in India

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Saturday 01 Mar 2008 9:52:46 am va wrote: > I for one dislike any political party speaking on behalf of my religious > beliefs mainly because as a religion Hinduism is not organised, has no > strict rules and our life karma rests entirely on an individual > (creature?). Losing that freedom i

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread Thaths
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 01 Mar 2008 6:12:40 am Thaths wrote: > > The story of the brutal murder of an evangelical preacher and his > > young son does not leave me fuzzy in any way. > There is a fairly easy response to this and it is possible t

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread ss
On Saturday 01 Mar 2008 1:56:04 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i have brought a can of kerosene in case you take > offence and want to commence a protest. Kerosene? What good is that without a train full of Hindu pilgrims? :D shiv

[silk] E-Mail | Print | Request Reprints | E-Mail Newsletters | RSS Commentary The Coming Death Of Indian Outsourcing

2008-03-01 Thread Gautam John
http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/29/mitra-india-outsourcing-tech-enter-cx_sm_0229outsource_print.html Sramana Mitra 02.29.08, 6:00 AM ET BURLINGAME, CALIF. - India is riding high on outsourcing. Information technology and IT-enabled services will employ 4 million people in 2008 and account for 7%

Re: [silk] Write a book, go to jail?

2008-03-01 Thread listmanster
On 3/1/08, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But when the practise of her religion involves insulting my belief, and > saying > that my religion is wrong my nose suddenly gets in the way. > Nothing can stop anyone from protesting here. But protesting is not the same > as hitting back, although that i