Re: [silk] Long Now's Manual for Civilization Lists

2014-09-30 Thread skn
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014, at 07:57 AM, Charles Haynes wrote: I wonder how many of the books will be in Chinese. They say they aren't limiting nominations to english, but selection bias and subsequent voting bias will be huge. -- Charles Very true indeed! BTW if you are interested in Chinese

Re: [silk] Long Now's Manual for Civilization Lists

2014-09-30 Thread Heather Madrone
Selection bias cuts a number of ways. While there are a lot of thoughtful selection in the lists I skimmed, there was a notable bias towards traditionally male skills. I saw one book on sewing and none on spinning, weaving, knitting, dyeing, or felting. I saw nothing on education, childcare,

Re: [silk] Long Now's Manual for Civilization Lists

2014-09-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Hm I thought heinlein had it figured out  human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, con a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve

[silk] Long Now's Manual for Civilization Lists

2014-09-29 Thread skn
Long Now Foundation has a very interesting project - Manual for Civilization Lists, roughly 3500 books most essential to sustain or rebuild civilization. http://blog.longnow.org/02014/02/06/manual-for-civilization-begins/ The recent blog post on the subject has list from David Brin, Bruce

Re: [silk] Long Now's Manual for Civilization Lists

2014-09-29 Thread Charles Haynes
I wonder how many of the books will be in Chinese. They say they aren't limiting nominations to english, but selection bias and subsequent voting bias will be huge. -- Charles On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:55 PM, skn s...@skn.fastmail.fm wrote: Long Now Foundation has a very interesting project -

Re: [silk] long

2008-02-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 07:44:38AM +0530, Hassath wrote: Or does someone know it differently? Zucker. Сахар. Saccharose. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820

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2008-02-08 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
Yes, :-) And nice to note the 'Telegu' as opposed to Telugu. :-)) Actually it was something like: stones the colour of frankincense, sweeter than figs or honey [1] - referring to Khand; this was in 326BC. Arthatshasthra of the same time also refers to the whole gamut of products of sugarcane.

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2008-02-08 Thread Radhika, Y.
in Telegu, it is Panchadara and chakkira. my understanding is that there is a greek account in Alexander's time that refers to the sugarcane as producing honey without bees. On Feb 8, 2008 8:35 AM, Ramjee Swaminathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) the rambler strikes again. Probable reason: too

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2008-02-08 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
:-) the rambler strikes again. Probable reason: too much sugar. On 2/7/08, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (but again, not in all languages - in Malayalam and Tamil, they are respectively called charkarai and chakkara, AFAIK - there are also cheenchakkari, chenjeeni etc in

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2008-02-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Feb 8, 2008 10:53 PM, Ramjee Swaminathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, :-) And nice to note the 'Telegu' as opposed to Telugu. :-)) Actually it was something like: stones the colour of frankincense, sweeter than figs or honey [1] - referring to Khand; this was in 326BC. Arthatshasthra of

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2008-02-08 Thread Hassath
On Feb 8, 2008 11:26 PM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also thought of gulkhand which seems to be a popular sweet in many parts of India. Was this of Mughal, or Indian origin? I never liked it, and could not understand my grandmother's need to dunk rose petals in sugar syrup!...

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2008-02-08 Thread Hassath
On Feb 8, 2008 9:41 PM, Ramjee Swaminathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: misri or chini - white crystalline sugar It would be of interest to note that, of all the above products, misri or white crystalline sugar is a very late entrant to the scene of Indian cuisine in a major way and has quickly

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2008-02-08 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-08 08:11:07 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: misri or chini - white crystalline sugar If chini is Chinese, is misri Egyptian? -- ams

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2008-02-07 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: | BTW, in Malayalam, cc sugar is usually called pan[cha]sara. I've only | heard the charkarai form used for gur or perhaps palm sugar. Is there | a similar distinction in Tamil? Speaking of which,

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2008-02-07 Thread Deepa Mohan
BTW, in Malayalam, cc sugar is usually called pan[cha]sara. I've only | heard the charkarai form used for gur or perhaps palm sugar. Is there | a similar distinction in Tamil? No...gur is called vellam...and palm sugar is panam kalkandu. (kalkandu is sugar candy ...the kind that comes in

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2008-02-07 Thread Gautam John
On Feb 8, 2008 9:05 AM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No...gur is called vellam...and palm sugar is panam kalkandu. There is also this liquid palm sugar syrup, in Kerala, that is called paani.

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2008-02-07 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-08 08:32:33 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster I am a terrible human being, because I find that description very funny. «The collapse unleashed an immense wave of molasses between 8 and 15 ft (2.5 to 4.5 m) high, moving at 35