On 12/18/2006 9:59:49 PM, Pat (pattycake29...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> Today I saw my opthalmologist because of the new large floater. The
> retina is ok, but he wants to recheck in 3 weeks. I told him
> I've been reading about things to help get rid of floaters and also a way to
> lessen cataracts.
From:
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 7:30 PM
Caught a good program on PBS the other day...about a program called
H.O.P.E.
I am thinking of trying the products outlined in this program but I
would
like to hear from others who may have tried it firsthave you ever
heard of
it?
I'm so
Today I saw my opthalmologist because of the new large floater. The retina is
ok, but he wants to recheck in 3 weeks. I told him I've been reading about
things to help get rid of floaters and also a way to lessen cataracts. He said
there is nothing that really helps either one. He said he'll
Hi Sol,
You write:
> How do you determine you are getting rid of mercury? Is there a test
> that confirms lowered levels against a baseline test prior to the
> amalagam removal, or a test that confirms excretion of mercury?
I'm speaking below from what I know about the detox process. I'm
exhibit
For high blood pressure, I have read that the real area of concern is
most likely the kidneys. So herbs, etc., that are beneficial for kidneys
can bring bp down in a hurry. No personal experience. pj
How do you determine you are getting rid of mercury? Is there a test
that confirms lowered levels against a baseline test prior to the
amalagam removal, or a test that confirms excretion of mercury?
thanks,
sol
M. G. Devour wrote:
Bottom line: I've no doubt the revision procedure stopped my int
Hmm, maybe I was remembering info from here
http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/
Keep in mind the caveats Ode posted re the SS info though.
As I keep saying, I could never sort any of this stuff myself, I just
don't have the knowledge.
sol
marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:
See -- I couldn'
Thank you for allowing me to join. My name is Dee Fitzpatrick and I live
in Epsom in the UK. I have been using CS (or EIS) for two years now with
wonderful results, both for me and my family, and my dog. I have
'converted' many friends and even strangers to CS and have had some
really good feed
Thank you Chuck for this - I myself am dealing with floaters as well as a
cataract in the right eye which I nearly had operated on two weeks ago
until I got all of the input from the list so decided to do some further
personal work before going that route - now I do not know if you were the
person
On Monday 18 December 2006 11:34, Dee wrote:
> Hi Langsley I've been following this thread with interest but am a bit
> confused (again? you will say) I have read the articles on both brands and
> I ve understood that the Mesosilver is a true colloid. Is Sovereign Silver
> the same as you all prod
> Mike can I ask what you are taing for the electrolytes?...thanks debbie
Yes, it's one of the Huggins group's Matrix products, just like all the
vitamins and minerals I'm using to adjust my blood chemistry right now.
The product is "Jogger Juice." It comes in 8 ounce bottles as a
concentrate.
In a message dated 12/18/2006 7:35:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
devorah...@yahoo.com writes:
I had great luck with garlic to deal with my BP.capsules...debbie
Hi Debbie...
I take two cloves of fresh organic garlic and crush it...add a little
o.oil..spread on a multigrain piece of toas
Gday from the west,
I find this site explained in another way of ionic silver vs cs.
http://www.hydrosan.com.au/moreinfoionic.htm
Reginald WA
-Original Message-
From: marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 December 2006 8:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.
I had great luck with garlic to deal with my BP.capsules...debbie
vwol...@aol.com wrote: Hi Sharon
Thanks for the information.
I have a bunch of Herbal Books but have no inclination to do any reading
lately.
So I will now get to it and do some reading on this spi
Mike can I ask what you are taing for the electrolytes?...thanks debbie
"M. G. Devour" wrote: Dear Sol,
You write:
> So Mike,
> Do you notice any health improvement from having your amalgam
> fillings replaced? Any negative effects? What did you do for detox? I'm
> believe you have written abo
Hi Sharon
Thanks for the information.
I have a bunch of Herbal Books but have no inclination to do any reading
lately.
So I will now get to it and do some reading on this spice.
I will also do some research on the Eyebright.
While the books have some information...I really p
Boy I had mine taken our about four years ago and I was one sick puppy...not
anymore ,work constantly at improving my health...I am fifty five and the only
maintenance drug I am on is for thyoid so I think compared to the countless
people I admit into nursing homes daily that are ten or twenty y
Good for you Tel debbie
Tel Tofflemire wrote:
Hi Mike, and all.
I had my 3 remaining Mercury/Amelgum fillings out Sept. 2006 in Mexico, and
replaced with Porcilin.
Seems like my tasting is better? I have done a herbal detox, and I do a Foot
Spa Detox every other week, I am still getti
> From: sol
> I guess I missed the meaning of your post. Sounded like you had only
> read the Silver Colloids info to me.
> Sorry. Perhaps I still miss your meaning. The part of the SS site that
> I wanted to point out is that there is at least one place that says that
> ionic is better,
I just checked the prices at Mesosilver and for sure I could not afford
to use their product. Unless it was life or death, and then it would be
cheaper to just die, I think. LOL.
sol
Ross Craig wrote:
my shepherd and I use 8 or 10 oz a day. I couldn't afford that if I
had to buy it. .
Dear Sol,
You write:
> So Mike,
> Do you notice any health improvement from having your amalgam
> fillings replaced? Any negative effects? What did you do for detox? I'm
> believe you have written about it all before, but with no archives,
> would you repeat please? I'm really curious to know
Mike,
Petronius
"Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur."
Which is just something we must learn to live with.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com
- Original Message -
From: "M. G. Devour"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: CS>comparing
Sandy writes:
Sandy writes:
> From what I gathered, the meso is
> smaller than Ionic, but even Marshall's paper explains/agrees that the
> color is due to larger particle size..
I don't know the verbiage they used since I haven't read either site in
a while, but the "particles" can't *be* smaller than ionic
HI Sol,
And most other commecial CS sites are as bad, or worse. Using just
such bait and switch language to confuse and convince. It does make
it hard for the average person without a chemistry background of any
kind to determine what is a real solid piece of fact, and what is just
smoke and
Hi Sandy,
Gotta jump in here with something to go along with you research.
We have nothing against Meso, except that you have to buy it, and if meso is no
better at doing what we expect and know that EIS/CS will do, why would one buy
it.
There's no definitive study to say which is more effect
Hi Mike, and all.
I had my 3 remaining Mercury/Amelgum fillings out Sept. 2006 in Mexico, and
replaced with Porcilin.
Seems like my tasting is better? I have done a herbal detox, and I do a Foot
Spa Detox every other week, I am still getting toxins out in the foot spa.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey
I have read both that were proposed.. From that info I gleaned that the meso
was better - than the regular Ionic, which the Sovereign, and many of the
others that I have looked into, including ASAP..
It is very hard to compare "apples to apples" - which, as stated, is on
purpose, depending on
I think it probably could. Silver nitrate, which is a form of ionic
silver without any colloidal component I believe can. But none of us
take just ionic silver (except for those who take wateroz, which has
been shown to cause argyria), so it should not be a problem.
Marshall
Dee wrote:
I th
It was said in an earlier post that ingesting silver with amalgam fillings
causes a battery effect in the mouth. Now we read it neutralizes the amalgam.
Please explain.
So Mike,
Do you notice any health improvement from having your amalgam
fillings replaced? Any negative effects? What did you do for detox? I'm
believe you have written about it all before, but with no archives,
would you repeat please? I'm really curious to know how you are feeling
now, 6 m
Hi Mike,
I'm actually becoming a little embarrassed at appearing to be the
definitive guru on eye care in this thread. It's all been
experimental. But I'm satisfied with the final formula.
Yearly ophthalmologist exams verify no deterioration. The Dr. seems
puzzled.
As far as the DMSO is concerned,
The real facts on colloidal silver
*by Marshall Dudley with special thanks to Mike Devour, Brooks Bradley,
Frank Key, Ode Coyote, Trem, Richard Harris, Rowena Evans [others to be
added]
http://www.silver-lightning.com/theory.html
or
**Colloidal Silver Research Paper*
*The Chemical and Physical B
Ode Coyote wrote:
Quinto just loves calling apples and oranges grape fruit with the
proof of raisins in a terms mixer.
And most other commecial CS sites are as bad, or worse. Using just such
bait and switch language to confuse and convince. It does make it hard
for the average person witho
I wish I could do that Mike, but I don't think it is an option, so I am
happy really that the silver won't make the fillings dissolve even faster,
as this is what I had read somewhere. Many thanks for your reply and the
link. Regards, Dee
---Original Message---
From: M. G. Devour
Date
I guess I missed the meaning of your post. Sounded like you had only
read the Silver Colloids info to me.
Sorry. Perhaps I still miss your meaning. The part of the SS site that
I wanted to point out is that there is at least one place that says that
ionic is better, though they may not state t
I thought ionic at 10ppm could *not* cause argyria. Dee and Murphy
---Original Message---
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 18/12/2006 17:29:45
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Ionic Silver vs. Silver Particles
There are multiple aspects to the healing power of silver. The
coll
Hi Langsley I've been following this thread with interest but am a bit
confused (again? you will say) I have read the articles on both brands and I
ve understood that the Mesosilver is a true colloid. Is Sovereign Silver
the same as you all produce yourselves, i.e. EIS or ionic silver? And
althou
There are multiple aspects to the healing power of silver. The
colloidal kills pathogens, the ionic causes injured cells to revert back
to steam cells so things can heal properly and without scaring. Having
both is best. Also ionic alone can cause argyria, but the colloidal
component acts as
Please do go and read the Sovereign site as well. Don't settle for half
the story, or half the opinions.
By making one's own EIS one gets a product with both ions and particles
(often said to "average" 85% ionic and 15% particulate). I think having
both is best, and my homemade product has been
Dear Chuck,
Thanks for the reply!
Okay, so we're looking like this:
1 oz CS
1 tsp MSM powder
15 drops Dr. Christopher's
Eyebright Formula Tincture
"A couple dropperfulls" of 99% DMSO
So if I've got you right, the DMSO you are adding "a couple
dropperfulls" of is 99%. So 2-3 milliliters of 99%
Dear Dee,
We've heard from some folks that the silver in our CS can plate out on
mercury fillings and seemingly helps to "neutralize" the surface
somewhat. That said, I don't personally trust the idea enough to have
left my many fillings in. They were replaced this June.
Amalgams, since the 19
On Monday 18 December 2006 06:44, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Sol -- didn't you read my post to you? I did go to the Natural
> Immunogenics site. I went to both sites that you suggested. Frank Key's
> site made the argument against ionic silver. The Sovereign Silver site did
> not add
The mesosilver particle sizes are the real deal as stated.
What we don't know is exactly what those particles are or how they get there.
The immunogenics sizes, not. [Wrong tool that measures dried oxidized ion
artifacts that have nothing to do with what was in the water ]
If, as immunogen
Thanks for the answer Ode. Dee and Murphy
---Original Message---
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 12/18/06 13:36:10
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Fw: CS and mercury dental fillings
Metal fillings are a silver / tin? / mercury amalgam.
It has to be mixed soft enough to pres
At 07:01 PM 12/17/2006 -0500, you wrote:
A discussion has arisen on my equine list regarding ionic silver and
silver particles. I know that this has been addressed on this list in the
past, and my memory tells me that it was agreed that home-made CS is
composed of both, and this is a good thi
Meso-silver sells a "metallic colloid"
Immunogenics sells "EIS" [Ionic silver water ]
Both have their agendas.
Frank [Meso-silver] is more honest than Steven [ Immunogenics ], but
there are things he won't say.
Steven says things that aren't entirely true [ not "technically" all not
true ]
You can taste tarnished silver because the acids in your mouth are
making the silver sulphur complexes go ionic and metal fillings are
creating a battery effect with highly conductive saliva as the electrolyte
that releases ionslike, accidently biting aluminum foil gives a
shockingly meta
Metal fillings are a silver / tin? / mercury amalgam.
It has to be mixed soft enough to press into the hole.
The more silver or tin you add, the harder and more stable it becomes.
Therefore, CS will make a filling harder, more stable and tend to lock up
the mercury better in the matrix.
S
> From: sol
> I repeat what I posted about this. If you only go to the site you noted,
> you are only getting half the "argument". Check out the Sovereign Silver
> (Natural Immunogenics) site for the other half. Reading both gives you
> some basis upon which to make up your own mind as it sh
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