Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Malcolm
Hi, almost forgot; the clothes dryer is infamous for collecting lint, dust, and after years of use, suddenly catching on fire. This is not the best way to clean it though. Usually the front panel can be wangled free and the truly incredible amounts of foof peeled off the motor, pulleys and whatno

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread AScottSilver
Oops, now in plain text with corrections... Isn't Mike saying I = E/R Where I is directly proportional to E and inversely proportional to R? watts still = I x E Now, whether electrons speed up and slow down, I don't know about that... Andy In a message dated 9/12/2008 3:46:07 P.M. Pac

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread AScottSilver
Isn't Mike saying I = E/R Where I is directly proportional to E and inversely proportional to R? Now,weather electrons speed up and sow down, I don't know about that... Andy In a message dated 9/12/2008 3:46:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cwa...@netdoor.com writes: Evening Mike,

Re: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread AScottSilver
Hi Kathryn, It’s not that bad. There is a liberal city council and a liberal arts university so you get some freaky white kids. They threaten professors that do research on flies and rats or sit in redwood trees and refuse to come down. The gangs are Mexican kids who stab each other over t

Re: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread Clayton Family
Gee, Mike, ok, I won't say anything more. I am not on the OT list anymore, so I am sorry I won't be able to read what you have to say. You could copy it to me directly, though. As you know, tongue in cheek does not come through well in text media. I know alot of people in Santa Cruz (relat

Re: CS>Frozen shoulder.

2008-09-12 Thread bbanever
Roger, Yes... acupuncture. Bob - Original Message - From: "Roger Barker" To: Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: CS>Frozen shoulder. Does anyone out there have any advice on treating a frozen shoulder? Cheers, Roger -- The Silver List is a moderated

Re: CS>Frozen shoulder.

2008-09-12 Thread Smitty
> Does anyone out there have any advice on treating a frozen shoulder? > Cheers, Roger There's some info here = http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=970 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverli

CS>Frozen shoulder.

2008-09-12 Thread Roger Barker
Does anyone out there have any advice on treating a frozen shoulder? Cheers, Roger -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Of

Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Neville
STOP IT!! My hysterical laughter is becoming more uncontrollable! I'm still trying to recover from your comment. N. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts Hee, Hee, I love it when you talk dirty, Mar

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread Neville
EXCELLENT!! Just love that. Thanks Chuck, I can't stop laughing. Sorry. N. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville Neville, Maxwells equations, not Marshall, ... Chuck Some national park

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread Neville
OK, job done, now that it seems I have successfully got a few of you at each others throats, I'll just back out now and disappear into the sunset.No, joking of course. Hey look, of all the explanations and analogies etc I have to work with I do believe I'm building up a picture of ho

Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread cking001
Hee, Hee, I love it when you talk dirty, Marshall... Chuck What if there were no hypothetical questions? On 9/12/2008 4:16:26 PM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: > Dan Nave wrote: > > The capacitor is 10 ufd. On the schematic, the resistor

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread cking001
Neville, Maxwells equations, not Marshall, ... Chuck Some national parks have long waiting lists for camping reservations. When you have to wait a year to sleep next to a tree, something is wrong. On 9/12/2008 1:00:39 PM, Neville (neville

RE: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread cking001
On 9/12/2008 2:51:48 AM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote: >Lastly, you may want to read some of the materials on the alleged >dangers of consuming microwaved foods. We use ours a lot less than we >used to. Yeah, That was why I had a mw've to convert to CS maker supreme. We had ditched ou

Re: CS>High Voltage CS

2008-09-12 Thread cking001
You're right Andy. More so with the methods used for neon xfmers than the microwave setup. You either use a CO2 blanket or be sure the 'trodes are both under water. Arcing over the water surface and the humid air conditions will cause nitric acid to form (not a good thing).

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread Malcolm
Didit; but other than that small glitch it was an excellent explanation for Neville's purposes, Props!! On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:59 -0005, M. G. Devour wrote: > Okay, guys, I yield! But if you can come up with *better* imagery > that's intuitive *and* rigorous, I'm all ears! > > Mike D. > >

Re: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread Malcolm
Kathryn,how didya know? Yeah, actuelly we'r all from Sirius the Dawg star 'bout a hunnert years ago, gran sed, we'r diffrnt'n you an we'r same's each other and we'r gonna take over yore "good ol' yew ess of ayy" any day now, soon's we kin get straight enuff Oh, wait, thass the rednecks gonna dew t

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Okay, guys, I yield! But if you can come up with *better* imagery that's intuitive *and* rigorous, I'm all ears! Mike D. > Evening Mike, > > At 10:41 AM 9/12/2008, you wrote: > >The higher the voltage or lower the resistance, then yes, the > >current will be higher, which means the electrons

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Mike, At 10:41 AM 9/12/2008, you wrote: The higher the voltage or lower the resistance, then yes, the current will be higher, which means the electrons are moving faster in the wire. In that case, how can one calculate watts ? Measure or guess ? Unless I misunderstand it, ..

CS>Adrenal Fatigue info sources

2008-09-12 Thread sol
Per Wayne asking why not send to the whole list, I have decided to do so. Not a complete list, just sources I've found personally helpful and informative. Books (in no particular order) "Adrenal Fatigue: the 20th Century Stress Syndrome" by James L. Wilson, N.D., D.C., PhD "Safe Uses of Corti

RE: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Dan writes: > I take exception to this characterization. Electricity in a metal > conductor moves at the speed of light. Yes, Dan, the effects of an EMF propagate at the speed of light, but individual *electrons* don't! (To the extent they exist as discrete objects at all!) The ping-pong ball

RE: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Malcolm
Yes, a good point! In fact often you can short out a capacitor several times in a row and get a spark each time; Yikes! High voltage capacitors are especially likely to behave this way, because the insulating element that separates the two "plates" of the cap becomes formed by the electrical pr

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread Malcolm
Ummm, On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 15:36 -0005, M. G. Devour wrote: > Dear Neville, > > You write: > > > [The actual linear velocity of the electrons within the wire is > > > proportional to the current: Zero with the switch off, and limited by > > > ohm's law, ie. total circuit resistance and voltage,

RE: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread Dan Nave
I take exception to this characterization. Electricity in a metal conductor moves at the speed of light. You are opening a can of worms talking about the speed of flow of actual electrons or charges... Dan > -Original Message- > From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] > Sent:

Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dan Nave wrote: The capacitor is 10 ufd. On the schematic, the resistor is shown parallel to the capacitor, but has no value. I am not sure if it is an external resistor or if it indicates an inherent internal leakage of the capacitor. Dan The time value of the voltage would be: E = V*

Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Malcolm
Many toxins are actually bits and pieces of dead bacteria and fungi or their excretion products; thus the microwave may actually contribute more toxins to some minor degree. Also there are many parts of the oven that aren't irradiated, but just collect dust and particulate debris because of that d

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear Neville, You write: > > [The actual linear velocity of the electrons within the wire is > > proportional to the current: Zero with the switch off, and limited by > > ohm's law, ie. total circuit resistance and voltage, when on.] > > As a simple example...the higher the current, the quicker

CS>Discharging Capacitors, Finding Power panels

2008-09-12 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Dan, At 12:39 PM 9/12/2008, you wrote: The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for CS, has a resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure how long it takes. The TV will hold a charge for a long time. Much of the equipment I have worked on has t

RE: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Dan Nave
The capacitor is 10 ufd. On the schematic, the resistor is shown parallel to the capacitor, but has no value. I am not sure if it is an external resistor or if it indicates an inherent internal leakage of the capacitor. Dan > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@

CS>current flow, Learn what you need to know

2008-09-12 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Neville, >> At 12:00 PM 9/12/2008, Neville wrote: forces. So it's reasonable to state that electrons are flowing from the negative terminal of your battery, through the wires and load, and back to the positive terminal. ] The real question, and when you can answer this one, I will buy

RE: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread M. G. Devour
I think we'd better squelch this line of discussion. Right or Left, it's all humanity, and its manifold failures won't be a productive thing to discuss on the main list... I do have a response, which I'll post on the Off Topic list. Thank you, Mike Devour silver-list owner > very expensive p

Re: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread Craig Chamberlin
Hey Kathryn, I need some of that good old-fashioned retro condolence, since I lived there in the mid-eighties. Most folks work in San Jose and commute over a road dubbed Blood Alley, because it is curvy and dangerous. I commuted to a company which built the Bradley Fighting Vehicle...yep pa

RE: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread bob Larson
...TV's and monitors with CRT's can accumulate charge in unplugged storage even if the cap is drained initially. i forget how it works, but it's apparently true. > -Original Message- > From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:40 PM > To: si

Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dan Nave wrote: The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for CS, has a resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure how long it takes. The TV will hold a charge for a long time. Give me the value of the resistor, and the capacitors, and I can tell you ex

Re: CS>Godzilla for childs stubborn tooth abcess?

2008-09-12 Thread Peter Converse
Hi G, If you go to the Yahoo group "Microelectricitygermkiller" you can learn how to make a simple 6 Volt "Godzilla" for under $15. If you want something premade there is someone on that list who likes to keep a fairly low profile who may answer you if you post a request for one. Blessings,

RE: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread bob Larson
very expensive place to live... very pretty, no ghettos. either being so left-wing is good for the economy, or they're a bunch of two-faced hypocrites being also greedy capitalists on the base level. wonder which? freedoms allowed doesn't necessarily mean they're abused, does it? i guess hard righ

Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Dee
Scary stuff! I think I would leave well alone and either get a new one, or not bother with microwaving. dee Norton, Steve wrote: Dee, I believe that she wants to remove the outer case of the microwave and clean where the electronics are. That area is shielded from the microwaves. - Steve N

RE: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Dan Nave
The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for CS, has a resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure how long it takes. The TV will hold a charge for a long time. Dan > -Original Message- > From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] > Sent

Re: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread Clayton Family
OMG- you live in that freaky so-left-wing-it- made ted kennedy look like a right winger- town of santa cruz. Sorry to hear that. You have my condolences. kathryn On Sep 12, 2008, at 2:04 AM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote: In our town the city council is lifting the smoking ban at the park so

Re: CS>High Voltage CS

2008-09-12 Thread Clayton Family
I remember hearing about this, yes. Silver nitrates was what I heard. kathryn On Sep 12, 2008, at 1:56 AM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote: Regarding making CS with high voltage (neon sign transformers and microwave ovens): Isn’t there a problem with nitrates and nitrites being induced into the

Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Clayton Family
Dear Steve, Malcolm, Mike, Dee, Thank you all for the input and the ideas. I am reading them and mulling them over. Yes, the toxins tend to be airborn. Cleaning appliances can be very time consuming since there are many areas that are not so easy to get to. Buying new ones is certainly simple

Re: CS>Varification?

2008-09-12 Thread Tony Moody
Hi Neville, Practically; the silver rod which is wired to the + of the powersupply gets thinner due to electrolysis. OK. Tony On 12 Sep 2008 at 9:22, Neville wrote about : Subject : CS>Varification? > OK, I have researched electronics a bit now but as I can't find a definitive > answer I need

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread Neville
- Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville [In metals and other good conductors, the medium by which current flows is usually moving electrons. They sort of pick themselves up and gli

RE: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Norton, Steve
Dee, I believe that she wants to remove the outer case of the microwave and clean where the electronics are. That area is shielded from the microwaves. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Su

Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread Neville
Thanks for that Mike, I may know my stuff with mobile earthmoving equipment and semi trailers and whatever other work I have been involved in, but electricity...DUH!! I appreciate the patience and tolerance everyone has shown here and will continue with my 'tutorials' while trying to keep my q

RE: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Norton, Steve
Kathryn, You should consider Malcolms suggestion about using bleach. It is a great disinfectant and does dissipate leaving no residue. It generally isn't used for electronics because it is an oxidant and can corrode metals but if you dry the microwave in a reasonable time it should be no problem.

CS>Godzilla for childs stubborn tooth abcess?

2008-09-12 Thread gmetropulo
Can the Godzilla be used on a child's stubborn tooth abcess? Where can one be purchased? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address

Re: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread bbanever
BRAVO for Santa Cruz! Bob - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:04 AM Subject: Re: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video In our town the city council is lifting the smoking ban at the park so that people can smoke medicinal marijuana. How are things g

Re: CS>Varification?

2008-09-12 Thread Ode Coyote
New book: 'Harnessing Big Foots foot prints" {They imply he exists, but don't prove it } ode At 06:57 PM 9/11/2008 -0700, you wrote: Hi Neville, As a book I once saw had for a title "There Are No Electrons" We think there are, they are an explanatory device to help us navigate a world o

CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville

2008-09-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear Neville, You're asking great questions. Keep it up and you'll get it in time. > One has a circuit... does the electricity run > directional? ie; does it circulate starting at the positive passing the > 3:00 and return through the negative, or does it pass around the 9:00 > and return to the

Re: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread Dee
I would have thought that just to turn the microwave on would kill any toxins in it! dee Clayton Family wrote: Dear List, I am trying to rid my house of airborne toxins. These may have accumulated in the inner working of the microwave as they did in the fridge. One way to detoxify these thin

RE: CS>OT: cleaning microwave guts

2008-09-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear Kathryn, Malcolm, and group! Anybody tempted to do *anything* around the guts of a microwave oven needs to take all the cautions about high voltages and keeping yourself out of the circuit *VERY* *SERIOUSLY*, as we don't want to lose any of you. Until you know how and why things are dang

Re: CS> OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video

2008-09-12 Thread AScottSilver
In our town the city council is lifting the smoking ban at the park so that people can smoke medicinal marijuana. How are things going in your town? (^_^) http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localstories/ci_10417491 Best wishes, Andy In a message dated 9/10/2008 4:41:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight